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detfan782004
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| green24 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | Congrats. I honestly would have been more excited about this 5 years ago before I started to devalue RBI as a team-dependent stat. |
Yea because he plays with a stellar lineup |
There were men on base for nearly half of Cabrera's PAs this season. That's insane. |
174 of his 620 there were RISP.
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| ugafan985 wrote: | | A.J. Hawk Fan wrote: | | Best all around hitter in the MLB along with Braunie. |
Votto? |
Yeah it's Votto and it's pretty clear.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well.
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Very impressive, congrats to him and he's certainly earned it.
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detfan782004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Cabrera is still hitting .340 with men on base and .356 with men in scoring position. Each of those rank 5th in the MLB. That is very impressive.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy. |
Um....no. Fielder hit behind Cabrera all year.
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detfan782004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| SadLionFan00 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy. |
Um....no. Fielder hit behind Cabrera all year. |
yea yea...typed it wrong...give me a break....
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detfan782004
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| green24 wrote: | | Cabrera is still hitting .340 with men on base and .356 with men in scoring position. Each of those rank 5th in the MLB. That is very impressive. |
It is what it is. All this sabermetric crap and newer generation thinking has crushed the real significance of the Triple Crown.
Oh well.
Us older folk can enjoy watching history.
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detfan782004
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| SadLionFan00 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy. |
Um....no. Fielder hit behind Cabrera all year. |
So yea jacked that up in my haste because tired of everyone discrediting him.
Imagine if Fielder and his 88 BBs got on in front of Cabrera.
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BrownieTheElf
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy. |
Fielder hit behind Cabrera didn't he?
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Congrats on a phenomenal and very rare accomplishment.  Truly ridiculous for anyone to downplay what he did. He made history that so few of the greatest players of the game never came close to accomplishing.
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Comerica isn't a pitchers park, its a neutral park. It depresses HR's a little but its a good run scoring park.
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detfan782004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| BrownieTheElf wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | Green is right though this accomplishment is based on who hits in front of him as well. |
Not as much as most of you are trying to overstate.
In fact with Fielder hitting 30 HR and driving in 108 runs that took away a good chunk of RBI chances as well for Miggy. |
Fielder hit behind Cabrera didn't he? |
Yea already been addressed. I was just typing and doing class work at same time and totally jacked that up.
Think couple times Miggy hit 4 but very few.
Still those 88 BBs in front of Miggy that Fielder had would have only enhance those #s
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BrownieTheElf
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| PatsPwn wrote: | | Comerica isn't a pitchers park, its a neutral park. It depresses HR's a little but its a good run scoring park. |
Unlike the Angels stadium 
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