Connor Barwin, where art thou?

amazingandre · Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 13374 Location: Elkhorn, WI

He seems to be a hot topic around here, some say he is over rated, some say he is doing his job, where do you stand on Connor Barwin? He had no recordable stats this week and 1 qb hit. He has 6 tackles in 4 games. Gary says he is doing his job, but with Watt getting a ton of pressure, Barwin cannot be getting double teams, where is the pressure and where is he vs the run? I do not think he is playing well, not sure why. It does seem like we have lined up in the 4-3 more often this season than last, but not sure if we actually have. All I know is, he seems to have disappeared thus far.
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I'm glad somebody else has taken on the role of wet blanket on our success this year as I'm finding it pretty difficult to find much fault right now. Much like the AJ discussion, I think you need to account for the fact that we are going to play things pretty vanilla in these games where we have the game in hand and the base d is getting it done. I have not seen much in the way of blitzing from this Texans d, especially in the 2nd half of these blowouts. I also think expectations may have been set a bit high with Barwin as people forget that 1/3 of Barwin's sack total and 1/5 of his tackle total last year came in his one game domination of the completely inept Jags and Blaine Gabbert.

Barwin will "get his" once teams start over-correcting and focusing on double teaming JJ Watt on every play opening up Barwin's on the edge. Much like the brilliant Glover Quin blitz play, I think Wade has been storing up the stunts for when they will be most effective and why bother getting those on tape when you are up by multiple TDs in the 3rd quarter. We will need Barwin, Reed, Antonio, and JJ firing on all cylinders to beat the Packers and Ravens and I expect nothing less than a full on assault. Also, please consider that Braman and Nading played a healthy chunk of snaps in the 4th quarter yesterday which is where stat padding often comes.
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jargin · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 7038 Location: Houston, TX

Number 98 is lining up where he usually lines up, at the OLB and DE spots. I see him every game. Its just that the QB is either sacked by Watt, has his pass tipped at the line by Jamison or Cody or Mitchell or Antonio or somebody, the pass is incomplete or the ball is out of the QB's hands before anyone can get there.

I'm not worried about 98 at all. He is facing the opposing team's best blocker. He is an effort player that will probably break through on a nationally televised game and we will all go....oh there he is.
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ServantofYHWH · Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 7995 Location: Clutch City

At least we can resign him for a discount.
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EliteTexan80 · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject:

...so, given two more lackluster performances from Barwin, does the team consider giving Whitney Mercilius more snaps at Barwin's OLB role? Yesterday was a bit of a spotlight on how badly Barwin is playing, as the guy isn't finishing plays like he used to a season ago.

Also - Does anyone think this might have to do with the uncertainty behind Barwin and his contract situation? I know that the team was working on an extension around the same time we extended Duane Brown, but nothing ever happened (rumors are that the Texans made an offer and Barwin's people declined the offer; Par for the course in these types of negotiations, you don't sign the first deal made to you). I'm sure Barwin was expecting his deal to be the next deal fleshed out, then Matt Schaub gets HIS new deal. You think that concerns on whether or not he's gonna get paid by Houston is weighing on him right now, taking him out of his game?
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Pastor Dillon · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject:

If anything Barwin has to be motivated to play better. He knows he is losing money very game. He has to average a sack a game the rest of the season to be offer top 25 OLB money
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lumberjackchris · Joined: 14 Apr 2011 Posts: 3110

Heck I'd give Brahman a shot, his motor is ridiculous!
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jargin · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 7038 Location: Houston, TX

Barwin came close, but no cigar vs the Pack.

He is bleeding millions right now

and Watt is working towards 100 million
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Texansfan713 · Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 23317 Location: Houston

OK, now I am worried about Barwin and his play this season.
He had a couple of chances to get sacks on Rodgers, and given Rodgers is a pretty good runner Barwin STILL could have gotten sacks.

I heard that Kubiak/Phillips said Mercilus isn't quite ready to become a full time OLB since he is still developing against the run, but I think it's time to get him more snaps than he already has. I also agree with LBJChris...I think Braman should at least get a shot too. His motor is ridiculous. Maybe pressuring Barwin can get him going.
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