Discuss football with over 60,000 fans. Free Membership. Join now!

 FAQFAQ  RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

FootballsFuture.com Forum Index
FootballsFuture.com Home

Why is There Never Competition For Jason Avant's Job?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 14, 15, 16  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> Philadelphia Eagles
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
RandyMossIsBoss


Joined: 01 Jun 2012
Posts: 15581
Location: Peppers90 on the sig
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
Meco wrote:


Yes, compare Jason Avant to Percy Harvin. Because that's smart.


The list you provided did that...


So you think we need to get rid of Avant because he isn't a top 3 slot receiver? I guess we should overhaul 95% of our roster in that case. You can't have the best at every position. I'm guessing the slot, being what, 24th most important position to us? Is not our highest priority and when we have a guy who does what he's asked too theres no need to replace him, especially when no one has stepped up to the plate to challenge for slot, not even close.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PowerElite


Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 8578
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
Meco wrote:


Yes, compare Jason Avant to Percy Harvin. Because that's smart.


The list you provided did that...


So you think we need to get rid of Avant because he isn't a top 3 slot receiver? I guess we should overhaul 95% of our roster in that case. You can't have the best at every position. I'm guessing the slot, being what, 24th most important position to us? Is not our highest priority and when we have a guy who does what he's asked too theres no need to replace him, especially when no one has stepped up to the plate to challenge for slot, not even close.


When a player can only play the slot there is a problem...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PowerElite


Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 8578
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:
Another reason no ones challenged his job in recent memory is because seriously who has there been to challenge his job?


Obviously that's by design. This offense doesn't really have a slot receiver position. It's something specifically created so that Avant can be useful. This is why no one is worked into the slot during the preseason. When's the last time you heard someone say "well I'm learning the slot position." They gave Chad Hall a sniff recently. They let Freddie Mitchell play in the slot because he was garbage everywhere else. It's basically a position Reid has for when he wants to or has to keep a slow receiver around.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
eagles101


Joined: 15 Feb 2005
Posts: 8326
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
RandyMossIsBoss wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
Meco wrote:


Yes, compare Jason Avant to Percy Harvin. Because that's smart.


The list you provided did that...


So you think we need to get rid of Avant because he isn't a top 3 slot receiver? I guess we should overhaul 95% of our roster in that case. You can't have the best at every position. I'm guessing the slot, being what, 24th most important position to us? Is not our highest priority and when we have a guy who does what he's asked too theres no need to replace him, especially when no one has stepped up to the plate to challenge for slot, not even close.


When a player can only play the slot there is a problem...


how so? he is our slot receiver...we need a slot receiver..he fills that spot....i mean DeMeco Ryans can only play MLB is that a problem?
_________________

props to deadpulse
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PowerElite


Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 8578
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
he is our slot receiver...


2 TDs in 35 games. I remember there was a time towards the end of Dawkins and Sheldon Brown's tenures here when they were criticized for not creating enough turnovers, interceptions specifically because Dawkins certainly forced fumbles. What is the wide receiver equivalent to that? If the media and people can criticize Dawkins for making Pro Bowls while not creating in their estimation enough turnovers, how is Jason Avant perennially beyond reproach?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Meco


Joined: 30 Aug 2012
Posts: 2500
Location: Las Vegas
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone, just smile, nod and then walk away.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
E-A-G-L-E-S


Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 1545
Location: Virginia
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moves the chains.. case closed
_________________
Wahoowa
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Withmy89vision


Joined: 07 Aug 2007
Posts: 3376
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe a thread complaining about our third-stringer (started by PE, no less) has lasted 3 pages.

Guess what? Most teams don't have 3 elite WRs, then a great line, a good QB, and a great defense.

All you should expect from your depth is reliability. If you are counting on a 3rd string WR to win us games, then you will be severely disappointed.

With all our problems with playcalling, the offensive line and Mike Vick, we're going to complain for 3 pages about a backup, who is actually pretty damn consistent?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hammertime52


Joined: 15 Jan 2012
Posts: 9035
Location: South Jersey
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avant will be replaced, when we have a replacement. Joselio did a solid job , but was gone when we had someone better.
_________________

Nick Foles supporter since 2012
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
eagles101


Joined: 15 Feb 2005
Posts: 8326
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Withmy89vision wrote:
I can't believe a thread complaining about our third-stringer (started by PE, no less) has lasted 3 pages.

Guess what? Most teams don't have 3 elite WRs, then a great line, a good QB, and a great defense.

All you should expect from your depth is reliability. If you are counting on a 3rd string WR to win us games, then you will be severely disappointed.

With all our problems with playcalling, the offensive line and Mike Vick, we're going to complain for 3 pages about a backup, who is actually pretty damn consistent?


ya but hes only got two tds. dont you know how the wr position works on a team.

wr one gets the yards
wr two gets the catches
wr three gets the tds.

avant is severely slacking.
_________________

props to deadpulse
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
willy_law


Joined: 10 Jan 2010
Posts: 9270
Location: Villanova University
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason I see it as is simply that we have had bigger issues and Avant has done an good job of moving the chains and so Andy sees no reason to really challenge him. I think Damaris might take his spot in time and who knows maybe we go out and Ryan Swope in the 2nd round this year.
but the reason Avant has had no competition is cause every year we have bigger needs and Avant gets what he is asked to do done.
_________________


TomRalph wrote:
Eli Manning is the devil.

2014 Draft Wish list - D.Coleman, T.Murphy, J. Verrett, L. Joyner
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PowerElite


Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 8578
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Withmy89vision wrote:
If you are counting on a 3rd string WR to win us games, then you will be severely disappointed.


If Avant is a "3rd string" then Victor Cruz must be a 3rd string right? Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Meco


Joined: 30 Aug 2012
Posts: 2500
Location: Las Vegas
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
Withmy89vision wrote:
If you are counting on a 3rd string WR to win us games, then you will be severely disappointed.


If Avant is a "3rd string" then Victor Cruz must be a 3rd string right? Cool


You can't be this dumb, you just can't. Jason Avant is clearly the #3 WR and he might be the #4 progression behind Celek. Cruz is clearly at least the Giants #2.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Phire


Moderator
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 48180
Location: #championchip #2012BirdsHoF #2012GoldStnd #YAKtoseIntolerant #Merica #TrollyRangers #Danes #BirdGang
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the notion that we have bigger fish to fry.

Mainly offensive line and did the last 5 years... The defense.
_________________

theuntouchable wrote:
Think about this phire. I am the real chow.

RainbowCarebear wrote:
Only for the quick and lucky.

Danish proverb 3:69
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PowerElite


Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 8578
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meco wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
Withmy89vision wrote:
If you are counting on a 3rd string WR to win us games, then you will be severely disappointed.


If Avant is a "3rd string" then Victor Cruz must be a 3rd string right? Cool


You can't be this dumb, you just can't. Jason Avant is clearly the #3 WR and he might be the #4 progression behind Celek. Cruz is clearly at least the Giants #2.


So a slot receiver can be more than just a "3rd string?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   

Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> Philadelphia Eagles All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 14, 15, 16  Next
Page 3 of 16

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group