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Who wins?
Jaguars
27%
 27%  [ 3 ]
Bengals
72%
 72%  [ 8 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/videos/Fred-Taylor-career-highlights/3f007431-241f-4027-a8d9-35e3f2de72c1


Awesome stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The game will be won or lost on Gabbert's arm.
And sadly, like we are seeing in Atlanta this year, the shackles need to be taken off and let him play.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
The game will be won or lost on Gabbert's arm.
And sadly, like we are seeing in Atlanta this year, the shackles need to be taken off and let him play.


With Eben and Cam more than likely returning this week, we should be more aggressive through the air. If we're not, I'll be surprised.

Marcedes will have a more prominent role in the passing game with the return of Cam. He doesn't have to help Cam in pass protection like he did with Whimper.
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Even though Laurent is out, I think we pass more with Britton and Bradfield likely back. I expect to see more of Shorts and Elliot this week, which I am more than okay with. Marcedes should also be used more as a passer since he won't have to pick up the slack for Whimper.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Even though Laurent is out, I think we pass more with Britton and Bradfield likely back. I expect to see more of Shorts and Elliot this week, which I am more than okay with. Marcedes should also be used more as a passer since he won't have to pick up the slack for Whimper.


Elliot, even before last week appear(s) to be in sync better than Robinson with Gabbert...looking over some All-22, had the protection been there, Blackmon and Elliot would have had huge days, Gabbert, sadly, had no time to throw.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Even though Laurent is out, I think we pass more with Britton and Bradfield likely back. I expect to see more of Shorts and Elliot this week, which I am more than okay with. Marcedes should also be used more as a passer since he won't have to pick up the slack for Whimper.


Elliot, even before last week appear(s) to be in sync better than Robinson with Gabbert...looking over some All-22, had the protection been there, Blackmon and Elliot would have had huge days, Gabbert, sadly, had no time to throw.


He missed Elliott one time on a 3rd and 3, he was wide open.
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Defense was in cover 2


Right before Gabbert throws it. He has Elliot wide open because the lb went with Blackmon on his drag. Leaving a perfect window to hit Elliot. With a real good throw he could hit Shorts (I believe) down the sideline.


I think with Bradfield back we will see Gabbert take a little more time going through his reads and hopefully slinging the rock around a little more.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, there were 2 guys there we could have hit for big gains, but it happens
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPwn wrote:
Because Cox is an elite corner, who most around here believe can lock down anybody.

AJ has been held under 41 yards (the number of yards that Haden locked him down for) 4 other times, each when he was playing one of the better corners in the league. I think he should be able to put in a similar performance this week as well.


Question then for those that watch the Jags.

Does Cox follow the #1 WR around the field? Or does he primarily remain on the left or right side?

I ask because i know that A) Leon Hall, when he was really good, primarily stayed on the left side i think. People still attributed bad performances by #1WR's to him, even though he was only on them for 50% of the time. And B) AJ Green will line up on the left side, right side and slot.

That's an important aspect that sometimes people overlook.

In any case, i'm not overly concerned about it. If AJ is on lockdown, Dalton will have no issue throwing to Armon Binns and Andrew Hawkins (who have played very, very well so far). I'd actually love to see those guys numbers if they got more than 5 targets each per game.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bengals break down like this:

Great
Wide Receivers
Defensive Ends
Defensive Tackles

Good
Quarterback
Tight Ends
Offensive Line
Special Teams

Bad
Linebackers
Corners
Safeties
Running Backs
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThorntonMelon wrote:
The Bengals break down like this:

Great
Wide Receivers
Defensive Ends
Defensive Tackles

Good
Quarterback
Tight Ends
Offensive Line
Special Teams

Bad
Linebackers
Corners
Safeties
Running Backs

Wide Recievers Great?
Aj Green Yes
Armos an Hawkins No.
Great WRs would be a team Like Giants, Pats, Falcons, Cowboys
Great WRs for a team is a team with more than one guy who would be considered a #1. Other then Aj, Ive never heard of Hawkins an Armos. IMO No disrespect intended.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theJ wrote:
iPwn wrote:
Because Cox is an elite corner, who most around here believe can lock down anybody.

AJ has been held under 41 yards (the number of yards that Haden locked him down for) 4 other times, each when he was playing one of the better corners in the league. I think he should be able to put in a similar performance this week as well.


Question then for those that watch the Jags.

Does Cox follow the #1 WR around the field? Or does he primarily remain on the left or right side?

I ask because i know that A) Leon Hall, when he was really good, primarily stayed on the left side i think. People still attributed bad performances by #1WR's to him, even though he was only on them for 50% of the time. And B) AJ Green will line up on the left side, right side and slot.

That's an important aspect that sometimes people overlook.

In any case, i'm not overly concerned about it. If AJ is on lockdown, Dalton will have no issue throwing to Armon Binns and Andrew Hawkins (who have played very, very well so far). I'd actually love to see those guys numbers if they got more than 5 targets each per game.


He doesn't always, but we have been known to move him around if the #1 is good enough to warrant it.

Cox will probably start out just on the left, but he'll move around if AJ looks like he's going to be a problem.
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McMorrow_922 wrote:

Wide Recievers Great?
Aj Green Yes
Armos an Hawkins No.
Great WRs would be a team Like Giants, Pats, Falcons, Cowboys
Great WRs for a team is a team with more than one guy who would be considered a #1. Other then Aj, Ive never heard of Hawkins an Armos. IMO No disrespect intended.


They don't have name recognition, but in terms of 2012 production only, they've been a top 5 unit.

Speaking WR's only (so not including TE's or RB's), their rankings are:

#2 in yards (750, behind Baltimore, who has played 4 games)
#1 in TD's (6)
#4 in catches (49)

And i wish i had targets and completion percentage too, because i'm sure they would also rank top 5.

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Bengals WR's - get to know them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McMorrow_922 wrote:
ThorntonMelon wrote:
The Bengals break down like this:

Great
Wide Receivers
Defensive Ends
Defensive Tackles

Good
Quarterback
Tight Ends
Offensive Line
Special Teams

Bad
Linebackers
Corners
Safeties
Running Backs

Wide Recievers Great?
Aj Green Yes
Armos an Hawkins No.
Great WRs would be a team Like Giants, Pats, Falcons, Cowboys
Great WRs for a team is a team with more than one guy who would be considered a #1. Other then Aj, Ive never heard of Hawkins an Armos. IMO No disrespect intended.


The Bengals WRs are great. They may not be household names, yet, but they are awesome. They don't drop passes, get open and are phenomenal at YAC.

The Bengals have a better # 1 WR than every team you mentioned. Hawkins is one of the best slot WRs in the NFL and Binns is a good #2.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theJ wrote:
And i wish i had targets and completion percentage too, because i'm sure they would also rank top 5.


http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr

Green: 34 targets 311 yards 2 TDs 62% catch rate
Hawkins: 16 targets 208 yards 2 TDs 75% catch rate
Binns: 13 targets 157 yards 1 TD 92% catch rate
Tate: 5 targets 74 yards 1 TD 80% catch rate

That's pretty impressive.
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