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raq11

Joined: 24 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

Son in 5 MNF Games as a Bear Jay has 1145 yards, 11 TDs 3 INTs 7.3 ypa, 4 of the 5 w/ a QBR above 90, 2 above 100.

Jay has struggled historically on Sunday night, on Monday Night he's been on fire. None of that really matters, but I thought I would rebuke your arguement anyway, care to try another?

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Superman(DH23)

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Jay's also 4-1 on MNF w/ the Bears, the only loss last year against Detroit
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OneBadCat wrote:

Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season.

raq11

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Jay's also 4-1 on MNF w/ the Bears, the only loss last year against Detroit

ok now ignore home games, what his record now?

Superman(DH23)

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:18 pm Post subject:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Jay's also 4-1 on MNF w/ the Bears, the only loss last year against Detroit

ok now ignore home games, what his record now?

2-1, all 3 w/ a QBR above 90, 4 TDs 1 INT
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OneBadCat wrote:

Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season.

raq11

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Jay's also 4-1 on MNF w/ the Bears, the only loss last year against Detroit

ok now ignore home games, what his record now?

2-1, all 3 w/ a QBR above 90, 4 TDs 1 INT

ok now ignore our wins, what's his record now?

Superman(DH23)

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

raq11 wrote:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

You're supposed to ignore games vs MN though

Jay's also 4-1 on MNF w/ the Bears, the only loss last year against Detroit

ok now ignore home games, what his record now?

2-1, all 3 w/ a QBR above 90, 4 TDs 1 INT

ok now ignore our wins, what's his record now?

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OneBadCat wrote:

Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season.

WindyCity

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject:

Super you make some very good points.

I just don't like how Jay plays against teams who are aggressive and attack the QB.

I also do not like Tice vs Rob Ryan.
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TytybearsFan21

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject:

WindyCity wrote:

Super you make some very good points.

I just don't like how Jay plays against teams who are aggressive and attack the QB.

I also do not like Tice vs Rob Ryan.

*clap* *clap*

Your wish is my command.

It is now Tice vs Meg Ryan.

Superman(DH23)

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject:

WindyCity wrote:

Super you make some very good points.

I just don't like how Jay plays against teams who are aggressive and attack the QB.

I also do not like Tice vs Rob Ryan.

That's interesting b/c its not been teams that are aggressive and attack the QB that have been Jay's problem, its been teams that sit back w/ 7 defenders and play coverage that have been issues.
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OneBadCat wrote:

Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season.

raq11

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject:

WindyCity wrote:

I just don't like how Jay plays against teams who are aggressive and attack the QB.

Trying to think of non NFC North aggressive defenses...

Steelers @ Bears 2009 (W) 27/38, 236 Yds, 2/0, 104.7 QBR (Forte 13/29)

Bears @ Ravens 2009 (L) 10/27, 94 Yds, 0/3, 7.9 QBR (Forte 20/69)

Bears @ Giants 2010 (L) 8/11, 42 Yds, 0/1, 40.7 qb rating, # of times he ran to wrong sideline: 1 (Forte 12/26)

Eagles @ Bears 2010 (W) 14/21, 247 Yds, 4/0, 146.2 qb rating (Forte 14/117)

Jets @ Bears 2010 (W) 13/25, 215 Yds, 3 TD 1 Int, 104.2 QB Rating (Forte 19/113, TD)

Bears @ Eagles 2011 (W) 18/32, 208 Yds, 2/0, 96.9 qb rating (Forte 24/133)

Not trying to prove anything, other than he hasn't been a deer in the headlights on every occasion vs an aggressive attacking defense...

WindyCity

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

WindyCity wrote:

Super you make some very good points.

I just don't like how Jay plays against teams who are aggressive and attack the QB.

I also do not like Tice vs Rob Ryan.

That's interesting b/c its not been teams that are aggressive and attack the QB that have been Jay's problem, its been teams that sit back w/ 7 defenders and play coverage that have been issues.

The Packers, Saints and Lions (1 game) in the last couple of years have been aggressive attacking defenses that have given him issues.

What do you think Cutler's stat line against Dallas?

Part of what I am factoring in is that this offense is not clickin right now so it is tough to compare to previous years.
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bears2308

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

Pessimistic outlook - Their defensive front will dominate our terrible offensive line.

Optimistic outlook - Peppers, Melton, and co. will dominate their terrible offensive line.

The Cowboys have looked inconsistent and barely beat a somewhat decent Tampa team at home. It should be a great game.

Madmike90

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:

WindyCity wrote:

Our defense is better.

Their offense is better.

So this should be a close field goal game and in that case I think the home team is favored.

Not so fast my friend...

The Cowboys have scored an average of 15.7 PPG...which is 31th (and joint last) in the NFL...as much as our offence hasn't been good in terms of production and even how it looks we are averaging 24.7 PPG on offence...

Lovie's Overall record when we score more than 18 points in a game is 62-12...the likelyhood is if we can get to 18 points we win...and given that their offence has stuttered and has now got to go up against our D the 18 points could be enough to win the game.

WindyCity

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject:

Maybe I am just wrong.

Does anyone know who is favored in the game?
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Cicero

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Location: Seattle, WA

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject:

Okay, so I was premature or something when I figured Forte was going to play but I just saw this:

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Report: Forte likely to sit Week 4: CBSSports.com NFL Insider Jason La Canfora reports Bears running back Matt Forte, who sat out Week 3 with an ankle injury, is likely to sit out again Week 4 at Dallas. According to a team source, the Bears are working out free agent running back Ryan Grant Tuesday.
(Updated 9/25/12)

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/559687/matt-forte

Interesting to say the least, and bodes really well for us Dallas fans; sucks for me in Fantasy though. Sad

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