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KamTrus20
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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: Worst pick since 1999 quarterfinals #3 |
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3. Gerard Warren 1st
116 tackles 16.5 sacks in 4 seasons
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6. Beau Bell 4th
0 Stats 1 Season
As bad as Bell was for the most hyped 4th rounder in the history of the draft this has got to be Warren easy. The fact that every draft expert, GM and draft guru knew Richard Seymour was the run away best defensive lineman in the draft and Butch Davis has the nerve to take his ex recruit instead make this one of the worst picks of the new era easy.
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ditchdigger
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Shocked this is even close. Warren by a mile. He was the flagship of Butch Davis' draft failures. |
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nugpimpen
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^^^^^^^
How would a 4th round LB be worse than a top 5 DT in the heart of a rebuild??????
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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While Warren was certainly a disappointment for a 3rd overall pick, he did manage to play a decade plus in the NFL, mostly as a decent but unspectacular starter.
Bell didn't register a statistic in 1 NFL season.
4th rounders certainly don't have the expectations of a top 5 pick, but they are expected to at least contribute to a team with the (not unreasonable) expectation of becoming a starter down the line or, at a minimum, a reliable reserve/special teamer.
Bell was literally a nothing.
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nugpimpen
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Which pick crippled the team in the long run more????
Not even close
Not even a little bit
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | Which pick crippled the team in the long run more????
Not even close
Not even a little bit |
Ok?
You're right?
FWIW, just because you state an opinion as fact, it doesn't make it so.
But, no, dude, seriously...yer right.
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nugpimpen
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | Which pick crippled the team in the long run more????
Not even close
Not even a little bit |
Ok?
You're right?
FWIW, just because you state an opinion as fact, it doesn't make it so.
But, no, dude, seriously...yer right. |
I wasn't responding to your post.
I'm just saying in general, if we are looking at the absolute worst picks of the last 13 years, i think whiffing big time on a top 5 pick is much worse than whiffing on a 4th round pick.
I believe it is magnified even further because we were a fresh expansion team that basically needed to hit it's first few 1st rounders to build a solid base for future success.
Was Warren a better player than Bell? For sure
Doesn't mean it was a bigger blow to us though.
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | Which pick crippled the team in the long run more????
Not even close
Not even a little bit |
Ok?
You're right?
FWIW, just because you state an opinion as fact, it doesn't make it so.
But, no, dude, seriously...yer right. |
I wasn't responding to your post.
I'm just saying in general, if we are looking at the absolute worst picks of the last 13 years, i think whiffing big time on a top 5 pick is much worse than whiffing on a 4th round pick.
I believe it is magnified even further because we were a fresh expansion team that basically needed to hit it's first few 1st rounders to build a solid base for future success.
Was Warren a better player than Bell? For sure
Doesn't mean it was a bigger blow to us though. |
Fair enough.
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nugpimpen
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | Which pick crippled the team in the long run more????
Not even close
Not even a little bit |
Ok?
You're right?
FWIW, just because you state an opinion as fact, it doesn't make it so.
But, no, dude, seriously...yer right. |
I wasn't responding to your post.
I'm just saying in general, if we are looking at the absolute worst picks of the last 13 years, i think whiffing big time on a top 5 pick is much worse than whiffing on a 4th round pick.
I believe it is magnified even further because we were a fresh expansion team that basically needed to hit it's first few 1st rounders to build a solid base for future success.
Was Warren a better player than Bell? For sure
Doesn't mean it was a bigger blow to us though. |
Fair enough. |
Look at the bright side, can you imagine how bad we'd be if we traded up for Jamarcus Russell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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NateDawg
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Gerard "Big Monkey" Warren hands down. He was the second worst pick from that draft behind only Jeremiah Pharms. On my list, Pharms is at the top with David Veikune and Brian Robiskie.
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