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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Saints players given Monday off Reply with quote

Really Kromer? Your response to this team playing miserable and blowing 3 very winnable games is to give them a day off?
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@LarryHolder: RT @JeffDuncanTP: #Saints players were given the day off on Monday. The few that were there today didn't have many answers.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Saints players given Monday off Reply with quote

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Really Kromer? Your response to this team playing miserable and blowing 3 very winnable games is to give them a day off?
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@LarryHolder: RT @JeffDuncanTP: #Saints players were given the day off on Monday. The few that were there today didn't have many answers.


Aaron "Deer in headlights" Kromer won't get a HC look anywhere thats for sure. I'd like to see the Saints make strides in correcting the numerous errors that have been shown in the last 3 games. Win or lose, just correct things or at least try.

How's a hybrid 4-3 3-4 sound for starters? Can Marcel Jones (afro-man) be worse than Strief or Bushrod?? Hmmm...

I love the Saints and always will, just tough to see this when a once mediocre franchise became awesome then... bounty happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes Kromer is soft but Spags got some explaining to do concerning the run D. is it the players or scheme? something needs to be addressed because, really, Brees can carry the team impressively without Payton
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give 'em the rest of the season off, it won't affect our w-l record apparently.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have faith. Spags said Hicks is going to get more playing time, it about damn time. Everytime he's in he's pushing the pocket and making plays. I've said it a million times, if we're 4-4 by week 8 this team will make the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, Spags doesn't blitz enough. Most of the time i see a 4 man rush. That works when you have guys like Tuck and Strahan. But we don't exactly have that talent level in any one player, or for that matter any two combined!

We need more 5-6, maybe even 7 man blitzes. In the early going of GW's career as the Saints DC, it worked. He was essentially sending 4 guys to one gap, and by sure volume of defensive players versus offensive players, someone made the play.

Then OCs started recognizing that, and began to bring out more max protect looks. That led to the offense stuffing the ONE GAP blitzes, and gaining huge chunks of yards.

Even the amoeba defense is beginning to find offenses that can counter it, with all it's blitzes and packages, because most of the time it's a one gap blitz or blitzing one side of a formation.

Spags needs to run multi-gap blitzes. Trying to overwhelm one gap (GW), or just not blitzing at all (Spags) just isn't working.

To provide an example for a 6-man blitz:



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully they come back and remember how to play football.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kinda bugs me. Not gonna lie.

You can see that Brees missing TC is effecting him. He is out of rhythm with most if not all our receivers, and to fix that, we give them days off?

Whatever, Bjoern Werner will look good opposite Cam Jordan next season.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've given up on this season. If we can't beat the Chiefs, there's little to no chance of us being a legitimate competitor. I just want a top 5 pick at this point. Barkevious Mingo would be so nice. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harper41 wrote:
I've said it a million times, if we're 4-4 by week 8 this team will make the playoffs.


No way.

Our remaining schedule:
@ Packers
Chargers
@ Buccaneers
@ Broncos
Eagles
Falcons
@ Raiders
49ers
@ Falcons
@ Giants
Buccaneers
@ Cowboys
Panthers

I don't see a lot of W's there.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerdouglass wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
I've said it a million times, if we're 4-4 by week 8 this team will make the playoffs.


No way.

Our remaining schedule:
@ Packers
Chargers
@ Buccaneers
@ Broncos
Eagles
Falcons
@ Raiders
49ers
@ Falcons
@ Giants
Buccaneers
@ Cowboys
Panthers

I don't see a lot of W's there.

Joe Vitt is much more suited to be a head coach and the players will start to get more comfortable in Spags system, if we're 4-4 by mid season we'll make the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harper41 wrote:
tylerdouglass wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
I've said it a million times, if we're 4-4 by week 8 this team will make the playoffs.


No way.

Our remaining schedule:
@ Packers
Chargers
@ Buccaneers
@ Broncos
Eagles
Falcons
@ Raiders
49ers
@ Falcons
@ Giants
Buccaneers
@ Cowboys
Panthers

I don't see a lot of W's there.

Joe Vitt is much more suited to be a head coach and the players will start to get more comfortable in Spags system, if we're 4-4 by mid season we'll make the playoffs.

As much as I love our team, I don't see us going 4-1 in 5 games with @Packers, vs. Chargers, @Bucs, @Broncos, and vs. Eagles
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've given up on this season. Getting a Top 5 pick and a blue chip defense player would really help this team. Maybe even getting a great trade like the rams get last year...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I suggest in a different post...

Go to a 4-3 / 3-4 hybrid with the 3-4 revolving around Akiem Hicks as NT, Cam Jordan and Will Smith the ends, bring Martez Wilson up to Sam linebacker.

The 4-3, same basic personnel, just bring in Ellis on the D-line. LB's Hawthorne, Lofton, Wilson.

Idea is to get Hicks and Wilson more playing time. That way it should give Spags the people/ability to do call the multi-gap blitzs mentioned above.

EDIT: Oh and this day off crap is for the birds until the entire team improves!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWEET! Our guys had Sunday and Monday off. Hopefully they will be will rested to give up 50 and the offense can take the 2nd half off again.
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