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 Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: Kenny Tate OLB / SS Maryland |
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| I was high on him following his Junior year when he was all ACC as a strong safety, since then he has been converted to linebacker. What if anything is his draft status now? I think he's got some sleeper potential, especially with the emergence of the next generation of tight ends. |
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jrry32
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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The guy can still play.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | The guy can still play. |
But what level, what caliber is he?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | The guy can still play. |
This. You can tell he's athletic, he can cover but he's a tweener (in college). I don't like him as a true OLB in the NFL, but has a hybrid Safety/OLB I think he has a role in the NFL...
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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He's gonna be another Kam Chancellor type in the league. He has a unique skill set that can be utilized in pretty much every defensive scheme. I've been high on him since his sophomore year at Maryland and I feel like we're gonna start seeing a lot more SS/OLB 'tweeners coming into the league with the emergence of these athletic tight ends.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | The guy can still play. |
This. You can tell he's athletic, he can cover but he's a tweener (in college). I don't like him as a true OLB in the NFL, but has a hybrid Safety/OLB I think he has a role in the NFL... |
I'd like him a lot as a SS. Depending on how his post-season go, I still think he's a 3rd round pick. Might even go in the 2nd with strong workouts.
Only thing I could see hindering that is his injury history.
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I think he's overrated personally.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | TheVillain112 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | The guy can still play. |
This. You can tell he's athletic, he can cover but he's a tweener (in college). I don't like him as a true OLB in the NFL, but has a hybrid Safety/OLB I think he has a role in the NFL... |
I'd like him a lot as a SS. Depending on how his post-season go, I still think he's a 3rd round pick. Might even go in the 2nd with strong workouts.
Only thing I could see hindering that is his injury history. |
Would be a good fit in Washington with the need we have at SS and the athletic big TE's in the division
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Taylor Mays didnt pan out to well |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| silver_surfer wrote: | | Taylor Mays didnt pan out to well |
Taylor Mays isn't panning out because he's too dumb to play in the NFL. In college he looked good because athletically, he was on another level, but that doesn't work in the NFL. He bites on play action every time, over pursues, and can't remember his assignments. Taylor Mays is the complete package as an athlete, just doesn't have the brains for it.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| johnson_cody_18 wrote: | | silver_surfer wrote: | | Taylor Mays didnt pan out to well |
Taylor Mays isn't panning out because he's too dumb to play in the NFL. In college he looked good because athletically, he was on another level, but that doesn't work in the NFL. He bites on play action every time, over pursues, and can't remember his assignments. Taylor Mays is the complete package as an athlete, just doesn't have the brains for it. |
Let's not write Mays off just yet. Yes, he's still dumb as rocks but he actually hasn't been that bad at safety. Played pretty well against the Skins. He'll never be great but he's serviceable...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| johnson_cody_18 wrote: | | silver_surfer wrote: | | Taylor Mays didnt pan out to well |
Taylor Mays isn't panning out because he's too dumb to play in the NFL. In college he looked good because athletically, he was on another level, but that doesn't work in the NFL. He bites on play action every time, over pursues, and can't remember his assignments. Taylor Mays is the complete package as an athlete, just doesn't have the brains for it. |
Taylor Mays isnt panning out because he has extremely tight hips and cannot change directions quick enough...He never has
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Kenny Tate is a baller. Please don't compare Taylor Mays and Kenny Tate just because they are similar in size. Taylor Mays is a certified bum who was never that good in college and was overrated because he was A) on USC and B) He was a 6'3 230 lb safety.
If Kenny Tate can get/stay healthy, he can prosper in the NFL.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| johnson_cody_18 wrote: | | silver_surfer wrote: | | Taylor Mays didnt pan out to well |
Taylor Mays isn't panning out because he's too dumb to play in the NFL. In college he looked good because athletically, he was on another level, but that doesn't work in the NFL. He bites on play action every time, over pursues, and can't remember his assignments. Taylor Mays is the complete package as an athlete, just doesn't have the brains for it. |
Taylor Mays never looked too good in college if you really scrutinized his play. He got a lot of hype because he was a freak athlete but when you watched him on the field, you saw all the issues that you're describing. It's why I vehemently argued against it when the media tried to claim him as a 1st round pick after his Junior year and a top 10 talent when he came back.
If you really watched him, he took horrendous angles in college, consistently overran plays, went for knockout hits rather than attacking the football in coverage and couldn't change directions to save his life. To make matters worse, he wasn't even that special of a run stopper because he always tried to hit guys high for the highlight reel rather than wrap up.
It was pretty clear watching Mays that his flaws would be majorly exposed once people really focused on his play.
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| jrry32 wrote: |
Taylor Mays never looked too good in college if you really scrutinized his play. He got a lot of hype because he was a freak athlete but when you watched him on the field, you saw all the issues that you're describing. It's why I vehemently argued against it when the media tried to claim him as a 1st round pick after his Junior year and a top 10 talent when he came back.
If you really watched him, he took horrendous angles in college, consistently overran plays, went for knockout hits rather than attacking the football in coverage and couldn't change directions to save his life. To make matters worse, he wasn't even that special of a run stopper because he always tried to hit guys high for the highlight reel rather than wrap up.
It was pretty clear watching Mays that his flaws would be majorly exposed once people really focused on his play. |
If you watch Mays now, going for the big hit instead of wrapping up is his biggest issue. He still doesn't have the COD skills you want from a top safety, but he's actually been decent in coverage. People really want to hate on Mays, but he actually is progressing a bit. Not calling him a top safety at all, but in a defense with a lot of holes in the secondary atm he's actually been decent...
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