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johndeere1707 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: Is there a better DT than Geno Atkins right now? |
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Through 4 games he leads all DTs with 5 sacks, gets constant pressure, and is still young. Is there any player that you think is as good or better at DT? _________________
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GaTechRavens 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on who we're calling defensive tackles. If we assume the 3-4 ends like Watt, Ngata and Smith don't count, then I wouldn't be uncomfortable with making that declaration. _________________
| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | I'd much rather be in our position now than the Ravens, that's for sure. |
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Athelite 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Henry Melton might have something to say about that _________________
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Biggsam49
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.
A weak answer for a weak thread. |
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vikingsrule
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Who would have thought that Atkins would turn out to be a better player than Suh and McCoy. |
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Superman(DH23) 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a better DT than Geno Atkins right now? |
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| johndeere1707 wrote: | | Through 4 games he leads all DTs with 5 sacks, gets constant pressure, and is still young. Is there any player that you think is as good or better at DT? | Technically, as I type this, that's accurate, however I expect Briggs INT from last night to be changed to a Sack/FF by Melton sometime this week. Atkins and Melton had near identical #s last year, and it's carried into this year. These 2 are clearly the gold standards at pass rushers at the DT position. They are also nearly the same age. IOW, these guys could be seeing each other in Honolulu annually for a long, long time. _________________
| OneBadCat wrote: | | Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season. |
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RainbowCarebear 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Fletcher Cox was suppose to be raw, well he leads our DT's for snaps, and he threw Marshal Yanda around like a rag doll in the 2nd half. And he's getting double teamed alot. _________________
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Blink 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Like someone else said, are we counting 34 DEs?
I haven't gotten to watch everyone, but from what I've seen he's the benchmark for 43 DTs right now. Melton is balling as well, Suh has been quiet for awhile now. |
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P-52 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Fletcher Cox was suppose to be raw, well he leads our DT's for snaps, and he threw Marshal Yanda around like a rag doll in the 2nd half. And he's getting double teamed alot. |
and? _________________
Jim Harbaugh's reaction to bloody Ahmad Brooks' helmetless sack: “Loved it, loved it. Wish he would have come and wiped some on my cheek.” |
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Slaymont Harris
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| I only watched part of the Skins game, so I can't really talk about Atkins, but Melton has been pretty beastly this year. He'll probably be credited with 5 sacks by the rule committee in a couple of days, and he has played much better against the run. The Bears will have 16 sacks through 4 games (assuming the Briggs pick is overturned), despite only blitzing around 20% of the time, and Melton is a big reason why. |
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TheVillain112 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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If Gerald McCoy can stay healthy for 16 games he might have something to say about it. Melton is playing at the same level although not getting doubled as much from what I see.
I would say Geno, followed closly by McCoy, Melton and Suh. Of course there is always Wilfork as well. Not sure if he's been playing 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT though. But if he's included I'd go with him... _________________
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RandyMossIsBoss 
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | If Gerald McCoy can stay healthy for 16 games he might have something to say about it. Melton is playing at the same level although not getting doubled as much from what I see.
I would say Geno, followed closly by McCoy, Melton and Suh. Of course there is always Wilfork as well. Not sure if he's been playing 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT though. But if he's included I'd go with him... |
Pretty sure he's been playing as a 4-3 DT as they're in the 4-3 now. _________________
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Tooki 
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Brandon Mebane has been playing at an elite level all year.
His impact has more been in the run game, but he is also generating a lot of interior pass rush. _________________
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Tatupu_64 
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Mebane is killing it. I have naughty, naughty dreams of Atkins playing next to Mebane. _________________
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TheGreatDebater
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| atm not really but overall Ngata/Wilfork are the top 2 (if you count ngata as DT) |
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