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turtle28 
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:13 am Post subject: Turtle's way too early 2013 4 round Mock Draft |
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ROUND 1
1. Cleveland Browns: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
2. Tennessee Titans: Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
3. Oakland Raiders: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
4. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
5. Miami Dolphins: Keenan Allen, WR, California
6. Indianapolis Colts: Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
7. Minnesota Vikings: Robert Woods, WR, USC
8. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
9. St. Louis Rams (from Washington:) Eric Reid, FS, LSU
10. Cincinnati Bengals: DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
11. Buffalo Bills: Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
12. New York Jets: Sam Montgomery, Olb/DE, LSU
13. New Orleans Saints: David Amerson, CB, N.C. State
14. St. Louis Rams: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
15. Carolina Panthers: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
17. Chicago Bears: Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
18. Dallas Cowboys: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
19. Philadelphia Eagles: Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
20. Seattle Seahawks: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
21. Arizona Cardinals: Barrett Jones, G/C/OT, Alabama
22. Denver Broncos: Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
23. Detroit Lions: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
24. San Diego Chargers: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: T.J. McDonald, S, USC
26. Atlanta Falcons: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
27. New York Giants: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
28. New England Patriots: D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
29. Green Bay Packers: Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
30. Baltimore Ravens: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
31. San Francisco 49ers: Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
32. Houston Texans: Carrington Byndom, CB, Texas
ROUND 2
33. Tennessee Titans: Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina
34. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland): Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
35. Jacksonville Jaguars: Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
36. Miami Dolphins: Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
37. Miami Dolphins (from indianapolis): Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
38. Minnesota Vikings: Shawn Williams, S, Georgia
39. Kansas City Chiefs: Sean Porter, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
40. St Louis Rams: Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
41. Cincinnati Bengals: Robert Lester, S, Alabama
42. Buffalo Bills: Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
43. New York Jets: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
44. Washington Redskins: tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma
45. Carolina Panthers: Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
46. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
47. Chicago Bears: Dallas Thomas, OT/G, Tennessee
48. Dallas Cowboys: Matt Elam, S, Florida
49. Philadelphia Eagles: Duke Williams, S, Nevada
50. Seattle Seahawks: Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State
51. Arizona Cardinals: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
52. Denver Broncos: Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
53. Detroit Lions: Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
54. San Diego Chargers: Travis Frederick, G/C, Wisconsin
55. Pittsburgh Steelers: Johnny Adams, CB, Michigan State
56. Atlanta Falcons: Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
57. New York Giants: Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
58. New England Patriots: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
59. Green Bay Packers: Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
60. Baltimore Ravens: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
61. San Francisco 49ers: Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
62. Houston Texans: Alex Hurst, OT, LSU
3rd Round
63. Cleveland Browns: Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
64. Tennessee Titans: Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
65. Oakland Raiders: Wes Horton, DE/OLB, USC
66. Jacksonville Jaguars: Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
67. Miami Dolphins: Gerald Hodges, LB, Penn State
68. Indianapolis Colts: Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
69. Minnesota Vikings: John Simon, DE, Ohio State
70. Kansas City Chiefs: Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU
71. St. Louis Rams: Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA
72. Cincinnati Bengals: Graham Pocic, C, Illinois
73. Buffalo Bills: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
74. New York Jets: Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
75. New Orleans Saints: Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson
76. Washington Redskins: Xavier Nixon, OT, Florida
77. San Fancisco 49ers: Khaled Holmes, C, USC
78. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Kevin Reddick, LB, North Carolina
79. Miami Dolphins: Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
80. Dallas Cowboys: Omoregie Uzzi, G, Georgia Tech
81. Philadelphia Eagles: James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech
82. Seattle Seahawks: Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
83. Arizona Cardinals: Hakeem Smith, S, Louisville
84. Denver Broncos: Sylvester Williams, DE/DT, North Carolina
85. Detroit Lions: Cory Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
86. San Diego Chargers: Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
87. Pittsburgh Steelers: Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State
88. Atlanta Falcons: Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa
89. New York Giants: Bicari Rambo, FS, Georgia
90. New England Patriots: Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
91. Green Bay Packers: Nico Johnson, ILB, Alabama
92. Baltimore Ravens: E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
93. San Francisco 49ers: Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
94. Houston Texans: Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
Round 4
95. Cleveland Browns: Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
96. Tennessee Titans: Mario Benavides, C/G, Louisville
97. Oakland Raiders: Jonathan Brown, OLB, Illinois
98. Jacksonville Jaguars: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
99. Miami Dolphins: Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
100. Indianapolis Colts: Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
101. Minnesota Vikings: Cassius Marsh, DT, UCLA
102. Kansas City Chiefs: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
103. St. Louis Rams: Travis Frederick, G, Wisconsin
104. Cincinnati Bengals: Blaze Foltz, G, TCU
105. Buffalo Bills: Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
106. New York Jets: Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State
107. New Orleans Saints: Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
108. Washington Redskins: Travis Howard, CB, Ohio State
109. Carolina Panthers: Cyril Richardson, OT, Baylor
110. Tampa bay Bucs: Gabe Ikard, G/C, Oklahoma
111. Miami Dolphins: Alvin Bailey, OT/G, Arkansas
112. Dallas cowboys: Trevardo Williams, DE/OLB, Connecticut
113. philadelphia eagles: David Yankey, OT, Stanford
114. Seattle Seahawks: Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
115. Arizona cardinals: Dalton Freeman, C, Clemson
116. Denver broncos: Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
117. Detroit lions: Demontre Hurst, CB, Oklahoma
118. San Diego Chargers: Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
119. Pittsburgh Steelers: Kwamee Geathers, NT, Georgia
120. Atlanta Falcons: Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech
121. New York Giants: Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
122. New England Patriots: Brandan Bishop, S, N.C. State
123. Green Bay packers: Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
124. Baltimore ravens: Isaiah Johnson, FS, Georgia Tech
125. San Francisco 49ers: Brodrick Brown, CB, Oklahoma State
126. Houston texans: Damion Square, DT/DE, Alabama _________________
mike23md
Days until:Training camp 38; Preseason opener @ Titans 52; Monday night vs. Eagles 85 RIP SSF
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MikeT14 
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I want the best ROT available. _________________
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turtle28 
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| MikeT14 wrote: | | I want the best ROT available. | We could take Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia Ive seen him play, he seems Athletic and read he's athletic. The thing though is that some of these DBs might be too good to pass up if they are available. _________________
mike23md
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lavar703
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| MikeT14 wrote: | | I want the best ROT available. |
We can score and RGIII ability to move in the pocket can mask some OL problems, however we cannot stop people from scoring and we're forced to spend on the secondary. _________________
| Deets wrote: | | Absolutely nothing. In two years, Ryan Tannehill will be far better than RGIII. |
RIP Sean Taylor "Forever a Redskin" |
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turtle28 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I added a 3rd round...  _________________
mike23md
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MikeT14 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| lavar703 wrote: | | MikeT14 wrote: | | I want the best ROT available. |
We can score and RGIII ability to move in the pocket can mask some OL problems, however we cannot stop people from scoring and we're forced to spend on the secondary. |
All those times he still got hit? We won't have RGIII at some point. _________________
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turtle28 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| MikeT14 wrote: | | lavar703 wrote: | | MikeT14 wrote: | | I want the best ROT available. |
We can score and RGIII ability to move in the pocket can mask some OL problems, however we cannot stop people from scoring and we're forced to spend on the secondary. |
All those times he still got hit? We won't have RGIII at some point. | 1. Griffin is running too much, but that will change I believe as the season goes on and as he matures in the NFL.
2. I added a good 3rd round prospect at Rt. If there was a RT available that could start day 1, I'd take him in round 2 but I don't think there is. That is why I went with the best DB available in Jefferson. In round 3 we come back and get a good RT prospect who can start in a few years when we move on from Polumbus.
Polumbus has been serviceable, better than I ever expected when we signed him after the Seahawks stupidly cut him last year. We can have one more season of him while Compton and Pugh develop to compete for that spot.
3. In round 2 we need to draft a player who can be an impact player right away. A guy who can start, unless we upgrade the position where he's drafted. Tony Jefferson is one of many Dbs in the 2nd round range that should be able to come in and start day 1 for this defense. We need that. _________________
mike23md
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S. Taylor 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Skins would have to take Tyrann in the 3rd.
I don't want to see anyone from the current secondary back next year...
Richard Crawford can stay.
The rest need to go. _________________ Don't be afraid to turn the lights on...
I've learned to dream with the lights on...
You can see the truth a whole lot better with the lights on... |
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BuckleyBoy
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Have actually scouted and reported on Pugh and I wasn't impressed that much. Would much rather have this draft
2. Oday Aboushi
3. Bacarri Rambo _________________
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ripsean21 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| S. Taylor wrote: | Skins would have to take Tyrann in the 3rd.
I don't want to see anyone from the current secondary back next year...
Richard Crawford can stay.
The rest need to go. |
im with you on that though not gonna be reality im cool with mariweathercause i feel he will prove his worth! Gomes honestly has impressed and not because he had low expectations. crawford does seem to do well in zone and man and honestly is a steal! Hoping Minnfield can get back to form this year and comes back because he probablly could be the guy to make a shocking move because of. dont mind Hall but i do understand we were spoiled with DGreen Champ! and springs and rodgers honestly were good and we do need a consistent guy who isnt 5'9" because we look like highschoolers covering men with these guys we have! _________________
Ripsean21-Adopt a Redskin 2012; Pierre Garcon: Great first game! Im not adopting any more im bad Luck! |
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turtle28 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Mathieu and Rambo are off my board- drugs.
Oday Aboushi is a possibility round 2 for sure. _________________
mike23md
Days until:Training camp 38; Preseason opener @ Titans 52; Monday night vs. Eagles 85 RIP SSF |
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ripsean21 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| turtle28 wrote: | Mathieu and Rambo are off my board- drugs.
Oday Aboushi is a possibility round 2 for sure. |
honestly i keep them on because if Fred and trent really have learned their lessons then they can giude them also i know matheu is short but if he can make our secondary play better at this point its hard to take anybody off the board with the air raids we seem to look at go bye when they are running teams! _________________
Ripsean21-Adopt a Redskin 2012; Pierre Garcon: Great first game! Im not adopting any more im bad Luck! |
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turtle28 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ripsean21 wrote: | | S. Taylor wrote: | Skins would have to take Tyrann in the 3rd.
I don't want to see anyone from the current secondary back next year...
Richard Crawford can stay.
The rest need to go. | I'm with you on that though not gonna be reality im cool with mariweathercause i feel he will prove his worth! Gomes honestly has impressed and not because he had low expectations. crawford does seem to do well in zone and man and honestly is a steal! Hoping Minnfield can get back to form this year and comes back because he probablly could be the guy to make a shocking move because of. dont mind Hall but i do understand we were spoiled with DGreen Champ! and springs and rodgers honestly were good and we do need a consistent guy who isnt 5'9" because we look like highschoolers covering men with these guys we have! | to be honest here, Mathieu is 5'9. Crawford who you want to keep and so do I (Is 5'9) the rest of our Dbs are all 5'10 and above and most DBS are in the 5'10 to 6'1 range. _________________
mike23md
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A TRAIN 89 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I dont want to see anything but DBs and OLs this up coming draft. This is getting ridiculous. _________________ RIP SSF
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Woz 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| turtle28 wrote: | Mathieu and Rambo are off my board- drugs.
Oday Aboushi is a possibility round 2 for sure. |
Only thing I'd say about Aboushi: in three years, he's only started on the right side of the line five times (back in 2010). He's mostly a left tackle. Could you switch him? Perhaps. But is that the best use of the pick? I'm not sure. |
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