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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posters here are seriously overrating the value of later round picks. You wouldn't trade a 5th round pick for Welker? Really? Has there been a single significant contributor drafted on this team in the 5th round or later since the new regime took over?

Why take your young players off the field, slowing their development, for a small upgrade at the slot position, a position of relative depth on your team? Unless you feel you are legitimate Super Bowl contenders and feel the move makes you favorites, I see no reason to give away a pick(any pick) and risk development of younger players at a position of depth for a rental. Completely illogical. People are severely overvaluing a rental. We already traded away our 4rd, now we are offing a 5rd for little to help? I mean I guess as fans only the first 3 rounds are exciting anyhow, right?

Now if you are talking about a CB, I might be on board.

If taking Titus off the field for the rest of this season helps us compete for a Super Bowl, I'm doing it. That's what this comes down to: he's a substantial upgrade at a key position.

There really is no debate to be had there. Wes Welker does not make us SB contenders. If there was a shred of hope he might, I might bite. But he doesn't. I would hardly call #2WR and a slot receiver a "key" position. And the players you are taking targets from are Grew, Burleson, and RB du Jor, not Titus.

We have a good shot at making the playoffs this year. Welker makes us better. That makes giving a 5th round pick worth it.

I don't care if other players see fewer targets: I want Stafford throwing it to the best option on each play. If that's Welker: good. If that takes targets away from others: fine. We need to worry more about being good and less about certain players getting attention.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
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Posters here are seriously overrating the value of later round picks. You wouldn't trade a 5th round pick for Welker? Really? Has there been a single significant contributor drafted on this team in the 5th round or later since the new regime took over?

Why take your young players off the field, slowing their development, for a small upgrade at the slot position, a position of relative depth on your team? Unless you feel you are legitimate Super Bowl contenders and feel the move makes you favorites, I see no reason to give away a pick(any pick) and risk development of younger players at a position of depth for a rental. Completely illogical. People are severely overvaluing a rental. We already traded away our 4rd, now we are offing a 5rd for little to help? I mean I guess as fans only the first 3 rounds are exciting anyhow, right?

Now if you are talking about a CB, I might be on board.

If taking Titus off the field for the rest of this season helps us compete for a Super Bowl, I'm doing it. That's what this comes down to: he's a substantial upgrade at a key position.

There really is no debate to be had there. Wes Welker does not make us SB contenders. If there was a shred of hope he might, I might bite. But he doesn't. I would hardly call #2WR and a slot receiver a "key" position. And the players you are taking targets from are Grew, Burleson, and RB du Jor, not Titus.

We have a good shot at making the playoffs this year. Welker makes us better. That makes giving a 5th round pick worth it.

I don't care if other players see fewer targets: I want Stafford throwing it to the best option on each play. If that's Welker: good. If that takes targets away from others: fine. We need to worry more about being good and less about certain players getting attention.

No, a rental that upgrades our #2 option enough to net us an extra 50-100yds and 1 more TD at the end of the year is not worth a 5rd. It isn't even the round, if he doesn't make us legit SB contenders, he isn't worth a pick period as a rental.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think more so than needing a new slot receiver, we need Stafford to get his head out of his rear. When he is on, we score points. Once again, our problem last year was not scoring points, it was stopping people. And we added WR talent to what we had last year. I don't think Wes is worth a draft pick and I don't think we can financially handle it (not sure how the franchise tag works when traded and still playing on the tag).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Lions could take on the salary and the cost was a late round pick I would do it in a heartbeat.

It always has to be about making the team better.
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Can he play Corner?
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It takes a WR a while to learn plays and it takes a QB a while to get timing down. That's why when a WR switches teams he dosnt often have the same impact. I just don't think at this point there is any reason to bring him in and if we do, he will have a Randy Moss in Tennessee type effect.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X_Factor_40 wrote:
Can he play Corner?

I'm not really expecting a 5th round pick to fix our CB problems either. But if a 5th round pick can significantly improve our offense for this season, I'd say that's a 5th round pick well spent.
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