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norcalgsr
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| 1King wrote: | | Ray wrote: | | He's to injury prone to make it as a RB, great speed but his body can't take the pounding |
Got any facts to back up the bold or are you just throwing around cliches and hyperbole?
He has a number of games of 30, 40, 50 + touches (pass attempts + carries.
He has had a number of games of 15, 20+ carries as well.
All that and he has never missed a game with an injury, all while playing in the Big Ten. |
A pass attempt isn't a "touch" in this context. Getting hit or sacked would be considered a "touch" for a QB. |
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I'm telling you, the cool kids are going to put Denard Robinson at running back. Dude has crazy running back tools that are just waiting to be refined. And before I die, I want to see Denard Robinson return kicks and punts but the Mayans might ruin that dream…  |
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| WhackyPlague wrote: | All of the above, probably. Mostly RB and slot WR, maybe some direct snaps.
He's definitely not an NFL QB, but if I had him on my team, I'd probably go without a 3rd QB (unless for developmental purposes).
| Wolverine_Joe wrote: | what are the odds of him running 4.3? i can never tell if he really has the legit 4.3 speed. he sure looks fast, but so was mario manningham. leon hall looked slow to me, but he surprised me with 4.38. and a track guy like morgan trent ran so-so 40.
i'm hoping denard runs 4.33 or below so people don't bring up his idiotic usain bolt comment during combine. just don't disappoint me denard! speed is all you got! |
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I wouldn't be shocked if he ran a 4.39 or faster, but I think somewhere in the 4.40-4.45 range is most likely. He's fast in a straight line, but not ridiculously fast. His 3-cone and shuttle times will be more impressive. |
If there's one thing we know about Denard, it's he's one of the fastest players in football. A late 4.4 would suprise me. He is ridiculously fast in a straight line, he doesn't get caught from behind.
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1King
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| norcalgsr wrote: | | 1King wrote: | | Ray wrote: | | He's to injury prone to make it as a RB, great speed but his body can't take the pounding |
Got any facts to back up the bold or are you just throwing around cliches and hyperbole?
He has a number of games of 30, 40, 50 + touches (pass attempts + carries.
He has had a number of games of 15, 20+ carries as well.
All that and he has never missed a game with an injury, all while playing in the Big Ten. |
A pass attempt isn't a "touch" in this context. Getting hit or sacked would be considered a "touch" for a QB. |
Point still stand. He has a number of games of 15, 20+ carries in the Big Ten. And while he obviously didn't get hit on all of his throws, he did on some. Should TD's not count because a player doesn't get hit?
Regardless of your answer on that, Denard has never missed a game due to injury so I don't see how he is injury prone.
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BuckeyeSloopy82
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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he will be this guy
without the insane linebacker skills
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Some team will be pleasantly surprised when they had the reins of their offense over to him.
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seminoles1
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| Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it?
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| seminoles1 wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it? |
By catching the ball?
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1King
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| seminoles1 wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it? |
But Troy Williamson isn't....... ahh just forget it.
Why do you think he will be out of the league in 3 years or less?
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seminoles1
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| Freakout wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it? |
By catching the ball? |
Yeah...since we know Robinson can do that.
| 1King wrote: | | Why do you think he will be out of the league in 3 years or less? |
I said he'd be cut from his first team in year 3 and out of the league in 5 years. I think that because he can't be a QB and there are VERY few successes when it comes to switching positions in the NFL.
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pnies20
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He's the type of guy I see as having the desire to play and do whatever is asked. He'll probably be a return man, be on all ST, and have 30 touches a year receiving and rushing.
So basically josh cribbs I guess.
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Marky
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How do we know he can catch? Not saying he can't, but we have no proof that he can correct?
Anyways, if he can gain weight, and have a Josh Cribbs body, he could be a Josh Cribbs type of player.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| seminoles1 wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it? |
By catching the ball? |
Yeah...since we know Robinson can do that.
| 1King wrote: | | Why do you think he will be out of the league in 3 years or less? |
I said he'd be cut from his first team in year 3 and out of the league in 5 years. I think that because he can't be a QB and there are VERY few successes when it comes to switching positions in the NFL. |
The only reason Troy Williamson is out of football is because he actually could not "see" or catch the ball. I remember the Vikings sending him to Nike to get special lenses so that he could see the ball and that still did not help out his cause.
As for Robinson think of Josh Cribbs, another former QB who might not be the most talented wide reciever out there but is a dynamic kick and punt returner. With Robinson's pure straight line speed, a team could take him and end up having Josh Cribbs 2.0. Not a bad choice for a team looking for a return man at around the 5-7 round area. (Like My beloved Tampa Bay Buccaneers) 
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Nobody
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| seminoles1 wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | seminoles1 wrote: | | Training camp casualty by year 3. Out of the league after year 5 at the latest. |
Yeah... no. If a guy like Trindon Holliday can make it with considerably less talent than Denard, DRob can make it. |
Really? That's the best you can come up with? Now all I have to say is...
If a guy like Troy Williamson can't make it, who has even more speed and talent than Robinson, then how is Robinson going to make it? |
Be honest. You're a Suckeye fan, right?
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