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The Rams are a solid team but I wouldn’t say I’m really worried…I reckon Bradford can be rattled by pressure and we will get far more pressure on him with our front 4…I think with a RB like Jackson he is a good match up for our LBs at this point…extremely quick guys will give us problems if they get outside against our 2nd level but Jackson coming straight up the middle plays into the strength of Urlacher & Briggs at this point…D.J Moore will do a much better job on Amendola than Washington did and none of their other receivers really scare me…in terms of their pass rush I’m not scared by Quinn & Long…not guys are decent match ups for our OTs…Quinn is athletic but not extremely powerful and doesn’t have an elite motor which will help Webb…Long is extremely power and has a great motor but Carimi can deal with that…what does scare me is Brockers on Spencer…his power could be overwhelming and collapse the pocket which will make Jay nerves and we all know what happens then…the interior guys need to step up…especially Spencer & Garza…I also like the match up of our WRs against their CBs…altho I liked the match up of our WRs against GB and look what happened there…
Like any game in the NFL it will be tough but I think we have more on the line and will have a greater desire to win this game. |
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I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF.
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| Madmike90 wrote: | The Rams are a solid team but I wouldn’t say I’m really worried…I reckon Bradford can be rattled by pressure and we will get far more pressure on him with our front 4…I think with a RB like Jackson he is a good match up for our LBs at this point…extremely quick guys will give us problems if they get outside against our 2nd level but Jackson coming straight up the middle plays into the strength of Urlacher & Briggs at this point…D.J Moore will do a much better job on Amendola than Washington did and none of their other receivers really scare me…in terms of their pass rush I’m not scared by Quinn & Long…not guys are decent match ups for our OTs…Quinn is athletic but not extremely powerful and doesn’t have an elite motor which will help Webb…Long is extremely power and has a great motor but Carimi can deal with that…what does scare me is Brockers on Spencer…his power could be overwhelming and collapse the pocket which will make Jay nerves and we all know what happens then…the interior guys need to step up…especially Spencer & Garza…I also like the match up of our WRs against their CBs…altho I liked the match up of our WRs against GB and look what happened there…
Like any game in the NFL it will be tough but I think we have more on the line and will have a greater desire to win this game. |
Did Cutler do any audibling during the Packer game? We were all delighted to see him doing that during the Colts game and believed it portended great things. I don't recall seeing him doing that during the last one. It could have made a difference in controlled that rush it seems to me. |
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ChicagoAl
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| WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
This is another point where coaching is critical. |
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Madmike90
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| WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
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Madmike90
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| ChicagoAl wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | The Rams are a solid team but I wouldn’t say I’m really worried…I reckon Bradford can be rattled by pressure and we will get far more pressure on him with our front 4…I think with a RB like Jackson he is a good match up for our LBs at this point…extremely quick guys will give us problems if they get outside against our 2nd level but Jackson coming straight up the middle plays into the strength of Urlacher & Briggs at this point…D.J Moore will do a much better job on Amendola than Washington did and none of their other receivers really scare me…in terms of their pass rush I’m not scared by Quinn & Long…not guys are decent match ups for our OTs…Quinn is athletic but not extremely powerful and doesn’t have an elite motor which will help Webb…Long is extremely power and has a great motor but Carimi can deal with that…what does scare me is Brockers on Spencer…his power could be overwhelming and collapse the pocket which will make Jay nerves and we all know what happens then…the interior guys need to step up…especially Spencer & Garza…I also like the match up of our WRs against their CBs…altho I liked the match up of our WRs against GB and look what happened there…
Like any game in the NFL it will be tough but I think we have more on the line and will have a greater desire to win this game. |
Did Cutler do any audibling during the Packer game? We were all delighted to see him doing that during the Colts game and believed it portended great things. I don't recall seeing him doing that during the last one. It could have made a difference in controlled that rush it seems to me. |
Very little from what I saw...I didn't see Garza doing much adjustment to the protection calls either. |
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This sounds like something from a Lovie presser, but the Rams are a good football team.
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WindyCity
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws?
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Madmike90
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| WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws? |
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this isn’t his year…it’s one terrible game where everything went wrong…the Oline couldn’t get it done the WRs couldn’t get open…Forte got injured…it was the perfect storm that hit our offence…if the offence can bounce back as a whole over the next 2 or 3 weeks we will be back on track…it’s just a question of if we can start that against the Rams. |
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WindyCity
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws? |
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this isn’t his year…it’s one terrible game where everything went wrong…the Oline couldn’t get it done the WRs couldn’t get open…Forte got injured…it was the perfect storm that hit our offence…if the offence can bounce back as a whole over the next 2 or 3 weeks we will be back on track…it’s just a question of if we can start that against the Rams. |
It wasn't the list and how bad we played.
It was how Jay reacted and how he tanked when things went poorly, I didn't see the maturity of an elite QB. I just thought that Cutler had grown past these meltdowns of 2010.
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Madmike90
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| WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws? |
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this isn’t his year…it’s one terrible game where everything went wrong…the Oline couldn’t get it done the WRs couldn’t get open…Forte got injured…it was the perfect storm that hit our offence…if the offence can bounce back as a whole over the next 2 or 3 weeks we will be back on track…it’s just a question of if we can start that against the Rams. |
It wasn't the list and how bad we played.
It was how Jay reacted and how he tanked when things went poorly, I didn't see the maturity of an elite QB. I just thought that Cutler had grown past these meltdowns of 2010. |
Philip Rivers is another QB who reacts the exact same way and many consider him elite...some guys are just like that...doesn't mean they can't get it down. |
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WindyCity
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws? |
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this isn’t his year…it’s one terrible game where everything went wrong…the Oline couldn’t get it done the WRs couldn’t get open…Forte got injured…it was the perfect storm that hit our offence…if the offence can bounce back as a whole over the next 2 or 3 weeks we will be back on track…it’s just a question of if we can start that against the Rams. |
It wasn't the list and how bad we played.
It was how Jay reacted and how he tanked when things went poorly, I didn't see the maturity of an elite QB. I just thought that Cutler had grown past these meltdowns of 2010. |
Philip Rivers is another QB who reacts the exact same way and many consider him elite...some guys are just like that...doesn't mean they can't get it down. |
Phil gets angry but I have not seen him play like Jay did against the Packers.
Those picks were ridiculous and should never have been thrown.
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Madmike90
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| WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | WindyCity wrote: | I don't think we can consider ourselves Super Bowl contenders or even a strong playoff team if 2-3 times a year we melt down.
Can we consider Cutler an elite QB when he meltsdown and throws a ton of picks a couple times a year?
Steve Young said that elite QBs have terrible games, but when they do they stop the bleeding and adapt, they don't keep throwing picks and losing their mind.
Because I expect another 4-5 pick game against the 49ers on MNF. |
We will get an answer for this on Sunday...if Jay continues to mop around and make bad decisions and throws we will know where we stand...if he gets his head back together and has a good game we will know he can be a leader and get us to the playoffs. |
My problem was that we saw this last season and everyone thought this was going to be Jays year and it took 2 weeks for us to realize he is still the same.
Can this team with Jay Cutler and his flaws? |
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this isn’t his year…it’s one terrible game where everything went wrong…the Oline couldn’t get it done the WRs couldn’t get open…Forte got injured…it was the perfect storm that hit our offence…if the offence can bounce back as a whole over the next 2 or 3 weeks we will be back on track…it’s just a question of if we can start that against the Rams. |
It wasn't the list and how bad we played.
It was how Jay reacted and how he tanked when things went poorly, I didn't see the maturity of an elite QB. I just thought that Cutler had grown past these meltdowns of 2010. |
Philip Rivers is another QB who reacts the exact same way and many consider him elite...some guys are just like that...doesn't mean they can't get it down. |
Phil gets angry but I have not seen him play like Jay did against the Packers.
Those picks were ridiculous and should never have been thrown. |
I agree they should have never been thrown but that is Cutler’s mentality…he is always going to trust his arm…plenty of other great QBs have been like that…Brett Favre springs to mind…Jay’s willingness to throw the ball into windows which others won’t is what makes him great when he is playing well and terrible when he is playing badly. |
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IronMike84
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| WindyCity wrote: | Phil gets angry but I have not seen him play like Jay did against the Packers.
Those picks were ridiculous and should never have been thrown. |
I don't know... it's typical of Cutler. He makes mistakes when he's not getting a lot of help from his offense.
Call it the "Favre Line." Whenever he was throwing dumb picks, people would always say, "well he's just trying to make something happen!" Same thing. It doesn't make it right, but it is what it is.
If he had thrown the ball into the stands on every play that he didn't have any open receivers on Thursday, I think they may have ran out of game balls...
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