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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, this Hernandez stuff keeps getting deeper and deeper. Apparently they now suspect that he murdered Lloyd because Lloyd had information implicating Hernandez in a 2012 double homicide. Shocked
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Man, this Hernandez stuff keeps getting deeper and deeper. Apparently they now suspect that he murdered Lloyd because Lloyd had information implicating Hernandez in a 2012 double homicide. Shocked


This obviously goes way beyond a football issue and involves possibly multiple deaths, not to mention Hernandez kids and family that will be forever affected. However, since those things happen everyday in society and we don't discuss them here, I'd like to stick to the football side for a bit without all the extra-caveats mainstream media have to jump through when talking about on-field impact. Short story, take Welker & Hernandez off that team and we don't lose to them twice last year (even with Gronk damaged as well). In the playoff game, Hernandez and Welker combined for 14 catches & 216 yards or over 2/3rds of their pass production. They combined for 11 catches, 110 yards, and 2 tds in the regular season game, but I also doubt Stallworth or Lloyd get as open as they did without safety attention being paid to Welker and Hernandez. The Pats have a way of reloading and morphing a step ahead of everyone, but I'm not ready to just plug in 120 catches and 1,300 yards for Amendola and Gronk and Hernandez are not assets you replicate with off the shelf models. Brady is great, but he is 8 Super Bowls removed from his last ring for a reason and there is no possible stretch where this offense is better than the past 8 that weren't enough to seal the deal. I'm not ready to proclaim the Texans better than the Pats, but at this point I think it's fair to say that from a talent level, the Texans have improved since our playoff loss while the two teams that have knocked us out of the playoffs have regressed. The Broncos are better too, and I'm not going to sleep on the young Colts, but as we sit heading into July, the Texans have to be stepping into a rare territory of not just being a sleeper pick, but full-fledged top of the list Super Bowl Contenders. I don't think we can cross into "favorites" until we can prove we can stop elite offenses or dictate games with our offense alone when needed, but it's not going to surprise me one bit to see the Texans, Falcons and Seahawks most dubbed favorites among those willing to go outside the franchises who have a track record of sealing the deal in Jan/Feb (have rings). 49ers and Broncos will top most lists and rightfully so considering that the 49ers were there last year and the Broncos lost to the champs in fluky fashion and are led by a HOF QB.

Nobody is writing off the Pats who have been in the Super Bowl conversation without fail for a dozen years in a row now, but the Texan fan in me does see the opportunity to pass them as greater than ever and considering we got Garrett Graham instead of Aaron Hernandez in the 4th round in 2010, don't feel even a morsel of sympathy for them as they got the benefit of a superior athlete for 3 seasons, but now get to deal with the damage that low character players bring both in on field impact with suspensions and salary cap hell when they implode, but also certainly the image hit they rightfully should take for being associated with an employee charged with murder. Sure, theoretically any player could go off the deep end at any point and damage the reputation of their employer, but a team like the Texans has a decade of credibility of avoiding character risk players and cutting the bad seeds loose at the first serious sign of trouble (Mathis, etc) instead of opportunistically profiting from other teams high character standards as they did in grabbing someone like Aqib Talib who profiles as nearly identical to Hernandez except that there was enough there to charge him with shooting at his sister's boyfriend, while Hernandez had avoided actual charges on the two previous incidents before the murder. It doesn't particularly matter that the government didn't feel they had enough to prosecute Talib, clearly he was involved in a series of incidents where serious crimes were being committed and the potential for further activities along the trend line existed leaving the Bucs to cut bait, but the Pats saw an opportunity and took it. I for one, feel that the Pats aren't getting nearly enough heat for this and look forward to Bill Belichick actually having to sit in a room and answer questions and be held accountable. So Bill, you cut Aaron Hernandez because he was accused of shooting someone, but last September, you hired another guy accused of the same thing amongst other issues like beating up cab drivers and teammates. Do you view this in a new light now than you did a few weeks ago, or is it an acceptable risk in light of this development to start adjusting your organizational "ends justify the means" mentality? Next Question. No, Bill, the entire press corps will keep asking until you answer or retire.
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Man, this Hernandez stuff keeps getting deeper and deeper. Apparently they now suspect that he murdered Lloyd because Lloyd had information implicating Hernandez in a 2012 double homicide. Shocked


This obviously goes way beyond a football issue and involves possibly multiple deaths, not to mention Hernandez kids and family that will be forever affected. However, since those things happen everyday in society and we don't discuss them here, I'd like to stick to the football side for a bit without all the extra-caveats mainstream media have to jump through when talking about on-field impact. Short story, take Welker & Hernandez off that team and we don't lose to them twice last year (even with Gronk damaged as well). In the playoff game, Hernandez and Welker combined for 14 catches & 216 yards or over 2/3rds of their pass production. They combined for 11 catches, 110 yards, and 2 tds in the regular season game, but I also doubt Stallworth or Lloyd get as open as they did without safety attention being paid to Welker and Hernandez. The Pats have a way of reloading and morphing a step ahead of everyone, but I'm not ready to just plug in 120 catches and 1,300 yards for Amendola and Gronk and Hernandez are not assets you replicate with off the shelf models. Brady is great, but he is 8 Super Bowls removed from his last ring for a reason and there is no possible stretch where this offense is better than the past 8 that weren't enough to seal the deal. I'm not ready to proclaim the Texans better than the Pats, but at this point I think it's fair to say that from a talent level, the Texans have improved since our playoff loss while the two teams that have knocked us out of the playoffs have regressed. The Broncos are better too, and I'm not going to sleep on the young Colts, but as we sit heading into July, the Texans have to be stepping into a rare territory of not just being a sleeper pick, but full-fledged top of the list Super Bowl Contenders. I don't think we can cross into "favorites" until we can prove we can stop elite offenses or dictate games with our offense alone when needed, but it's not going to surprise me one bit to see the Texans, Falcons and Seahawks most dubbed favorites among those willing to go outside the franchises who have a track record of sealing the deal in Jan/Feb (have rings). 49ers and Broncos will top most lists and rightfully so considering that the 49ers were there last year and the Broncos lost to the champs in fluky fashion and are led by a HOF QB.

Nobody is writing off the Pats who have been in the Super Bowl conversation without fail for a dozen years in a row now, but the Texan fan in me does see the opportunity to pass them as greater than ever and considering we got Garrett Graham instead of Aaron Hernandez in the 4th round in 2010, don't feel even a morsel of sympathy for them as they got the benefit of a superior athlete for 3 seasons, but now get to deal with the damage that low character players bring both in on field impact with suspensions and salary cap hell when they implode, but also certainly the image hit they rightfully should take for being associated with an employee charged with murder. Sure, theoretically any player could go off the deep end at any point and damage the reputation of their employer, but a team like the Texans has a decade of credibility of avoiding character risk players and cutting the bad seeds loose at the first serious sign of trouble (Mathis, etc) instead of opportunistically profiting from other teams high character standards as they did in grabbing someone like Aqib Talib who profiles as nearly identical to Hernandez except that there was enough there to charge him with shooting at his sister's boyfriend, while Hernandez had avoided actual charges on the two previous incidents before the murder. It doesn't particularly matter that the government didn't feel they had enough to prosecute Talib, clearly he was involved in a series of incidents where serious crimes were being committed and the potential for further activities along the trend line existed leaving the Bucs to cut bait, but the Pats saw an opportunity and took it. I for one, feel that the Pats aren't getting nearly enough heat for this and look forward to Bill Belichick actually having to sit in a room and answer questions and be held accountable. So Bill, you cut Aaron Hernandez because he was accused of shooting someone, but last September, you hired another guy accused of the same thing amongst other issues like beating up cab drivers and teammates. Do you view this in a new light now than you did a few weeks ago, or is it an acceptable risk in light of this development to start adjusting your organizational "ends justify the means" mentality? Next Question. No, Bill, the entire press corps will keep asking until you answer or retire.


I actually agree for the most part. I'll grant I haven't done a lot of posting here lately, but I did call into one of the weekend afternoon shows on 610 a few weeks ago before I left Houston and argued emphatically that strictly from a roster talent standpoint, the Texans are a better team than either the Broncos or the Patriots; if you look beyond the quarterbacks the difference is even starker (and this was before this Hernandez stuff emerged).

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Kinda puts things in perspective, no? This time last year, folks seemed to criticize Rob Gronkowski for his on again/off again relationship with porn star Bibi Jones and the party lifestyle he chose to lead. Images and video of Gronk up in the club with bottles in each hand went viral quickly, and folks wanted to crucify him for that. Folks said that he was too occupied with the partying and that sort of lifestyle, and how this could pose to be a distraction if the Pats didn't reign it in somehow.

Let's face it - Gronk is a semi-famous young guy with a lot of money and in great shape. If I was in his position - 22 years old with several million in the bank and single digit body fat - I am confident in saying that I'd be doing the exact same thing, buying bottles of Patron and hooking up with Keylani Lei every weekend. Yet, this time last year, folks were in an uproar...but always managed to mention "Welp, at least the Pats have a solid backup plan in Aaron Hernandez..."

Yeah, so much for that. Moral police was too busying policing the morality of Gronkowski, they completely dropped the ball on this murdering psychopath.
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Kinda puts things in perspective, no? This time last year, folks seemed to criticize Rob Gronkowski for his on again/off again relationship with porn star Bibi Jones and the party lifestyle he chose to lead. Images and video of Gronk up in the club with bottles in each hand went viral quickly, and folks wanted to crucify him for that. Folks said that he was too occupied with the partying and that sort of lifestyle, and how this could pose to be a distraction if the Pats didn't reign it in somehow.

Let's face it - Gronk is a semi-famous young guy with a lot of money and in great shape. If I was in his position - 22 years old with several million in the bank and single digit body fat - I am confident in saying that I'd be doing the exact same thing, buying bottles of Patron and hooking up with Keylani Lei every weekend. Yet, this time last year, folks were in an uproar...but always managed to mention "Welp, at least the Pats have a solid backup plan in Aaron Hernandez..."

Yeah, so much for that. Moral police was too busying policing the morality of Gronkowski, they completely dropped the ball on this murdering psychopath.


Agreed, but lets not make the mistake of minimizing Gronk's actions because Hernandez were so much worse. From a football perspective, Gronk's actions are still highly irresponsible and unprofessional. Having an active and public social-life isn't a problem in and of itself until it is a problem and it is a problem when you aren't able to be on the field to do your job and there is ample evidence in the public arena that you are doing things that may compromise your rehab and contribute to further missed time. Hell, I've had 2 shoulder surgeries myself and I can tell you the difference in results between the one when I was in college and partying was the priority and the one 8 years later and actually did the prescribed rehab work and went to all my physical therapy appts was night and day. I hosted a bachelor party in the middle of my second rehab schedule and pretty much ended a close friendship because one of my buddies was "drunken wrestle guy" and didn't respect that big sling and cushion as a sign to not mess with me and was unapologetic afterwords even after I explained that I didn't want to go through this painful and expensive process a 3rd time because he can't contain is frat boy bs. Difference is, I didn't have a $54 million deal riding on my physical condition or the scrutiny of an employer, fanbase, and press that is going to connect things like infections, failed procedures, and secondary complications to videos of you pulling WWE moves on your drunk buddies in a Vegas club with your arm still in a sling from your second broken arm within months. Priorities. Consequences. Even uber rich 24 year olds need to have em.

Shockey peaked 4 years into his career, and his Namath-esque life in New York and Vegas will always be looked at as a contributing factor to his slow steady decline. Gronk also has the spectre of Brady and Belichick's eventual retirements looming so he's not in a position to be throwing away important moments even early in his career. Seriously, people were upset last offseason that Arian Foster was becoming a quasi-vegan and worried about boring old Schaub ability to return from his lisfranc. I'll take our "Texan" problems any day.
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Apollo Stallion wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Kinda puts things in perspective, no? This time last year, folks seemed to criticize Rob Gronkowski for his on again/off again relationship with porn star Bibi Jones and the party lifestyle he chose to lead. Images and video of Gronk up in the club with bottles in each hand went viral quickly, and folks wanted to crucify him for that. Folks said that he was too occupied with the partying and that sort of lifestyle, and how this could pose to be a distraction if the Pats didn't reign it in somehow.

Let's face it - Gronk is a semi-famous young guy with a lot of money and in great shape. If I was in his position - 22 years old with several million in the bank and single digit body fat - I am confident in saying that I'd be doing the exact same thing, buying bottles of Patron and hooking up with Keylani Lei every weekend. Yet, this time last year, folks were in an uproar...but always managed to mention "Welp, at least the Pats have a solid backup plan in Aaron Hernandez..."

Yeah, so much for that. Moral police was too busying policing the morality of Gronkowski, they completely dropped the ball on this murdering psychopath.


Agreed, but lets not make the mistake of minimizing Gronk's actions because Hernandez were so much worse. From a football perspective, Gronk's actions are still highly irresponsible and unprofessional. Having an active and public social-life isn't a problem in and of itself until it is a problem and it is a problem when you aren't able to be on the field to do your job and there is ample evidence in the public arena that you are doing things that may compromise your rehab and contribute to further missed time. Hell, I've had 2 shoulder surgeries myself and I can tell you the difference in results between the one when I was in college and partying was the priority and the one 8 years later and actually did the prescribed rehab work and went to all my physical therapy appts was night and day. I hosted a bachelor party in the middle of my second rehab schedule and pretty much ended a close friendship because one of my buddies was "drunken wrestle guy" and didn't respect that big sling and cushion as a sign to not mess with me and was unapologetic afterwords even after I explained that I didn't want to go through this painful and expensive process a 3rd time because he can't contain is frat boy bs. Difference is, I didn't have a $54 million deal riding on my physical condition or the scrutiny of an employer, fanbase, and press that is going to connect things like infections, failed procedures, and secondary complications to videos of you pulling WWE moves on your drunk buddies in a Vegas club with your arm still in a sling from your second broken arm within months. Priorities. Consequences. Even uber rich 24 year olds need to have em.

Shockey peaked 4 years into his career, and his Namath-esque life in New York and Vegas will always be looked at as a contributing factor to his slow steady decline. Gronk also has the spectre of Brady and Belichick's eventual retirements looming so he's not in a position to be throwing away important moments even early in his career. Seriously, people were upset last offseason that Arian Foster was becoming a quasi-vegan and worried about boring old Schaub ability to return from his lisfranc. I'll take our "Texan" problems any day.


I still think Foster's conversion to a vegan lifestyle adversely affected his performance this past year. I'm all for being aware about the kind of lifestyle you're living, but there's no way to make that kind of conversion and still perform at the highest level as an athlete.
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I still believe innocent until proven guilty and I'm not going to pass judgement on Aaron but it doesn't look good. Gronks actions I've never cared about. James Hardens hooker/gf either
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grasspike wrote:
Apollo Stallion wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Kinda puts things in perspective, no? This time last year, folks seemed to criticize Rob Gronkowski for his on again/off again relationship with porn star Bibi Jones and the party lifestyle he chose to lead. Images and video of Gronk up in the club with bottles in each hand went viral quickly, and folks wanted to crucify him for that. Folks said that he was too occupied with the partying and that sort of lifestyle, and how this could pose to be a distraction if the Pats didn't reign it in somehow.

Let's face it - Gronk is a semi-famous young guy with a lot of money and in great shape. If I was in his position - 22 years old with several million in the bank and single digit body fat - I am confident in saying that I'd be doing the exact same thing, buying bottles of Patron and hooking up with Keylani Lei every weekend. Yet, this time last year, folks were in an uproar...but always managed to mention "Welp, at least the Pats have a solid backup plan in Aaron Hernandez..."

Yeah, so much for that. Moral police was too busying policing the morality of Gronkowski, they completely dropped the ball on this murdering psychopath.


Agreed, but lets not make the mistake of minimizing Gronk's actions because Hernandez were so much worse. From a football perspective, Gronk's actions are still highly irresponsible and unprofessional. Having an active and public social-life isn't a problem in and of itself until it is a problem and it is a problem when you aren't able to be on the field to do your job and there is ample evidence in the public arena that you are doing things that may compromise your rehab and contribute to further missed time. Hell, I've had 2 shoulder surgeries myself and I can tell you the difference in results between the one when I was in college and partying was the priority and the one 8 years later and actually did the prescribed rehab work and went to all my physical therapy appts was night and day. I hosted a bachelor party in the middle of my second rehab schedule and pretty much ended a close friendship because one of my buddies was "drunken wrestle guy" and didn't respect that big sling and cushion as a sign to not mess with me and was unapologetic afterwords even after I explained that I didn't want to go through this painful and expensive process a 3rd time because he can't contain is frat boy bs. Difference is, I didn't have a $54 million deal riding on my physical condition or the scrutiny of an employer, fanbase, and press that is going to connect things like infections, failed procedures, and secondary complications to videos of you pulling WWE moves on your drunk buddies in a Vegas club with your arm still in a sling from your second broken arm within months. Priorities. Consequences. Even uber rich 24 year olds need to have em.

Shockey peaked 4 years into his career, and his Namath-esque life in New York and Vegas will always be looked at as a contributing factor to his slow steady decline. Gronk also has the spectre of Brady and Belichick's eventual retirements looming so he's not in a position to be throwing away important moments even early in his career. Seriously, people were upset last offseason that Arian Foster was becoming a quasi-vegan and worried about boring old Schaub ability to return from his lisfranc. I'll take our "Texan" problems any day.


I still think Foster's conversion to a vegan lifestyle adversely affected his performance this past year. I'm all for being aware about the kind of lifestyle you're living, but there's no way to make that kind of conversion and still perform at the highest level as an athlete.


While I agree that Foster didn't look quite the same last year as he did in previous years, he did complete the season and didn't miss many snaps that I can recall. He had a heavy workload and his body seemed to hold up pretty well. Our O-Line also played a major factor. I don't know what his diet is like now, but I think there is some validity to some alternative training and dieting methods for some people. Some people think that Yoga is just for women, but it's been proven to greatly increase flexibility which reduces injuries. MMA Training was scoffed at and is now becoming more mainstream. I understand that those are supplemental exercises to traditional training, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to try something new if it's something you can easily change, and a diet is certainly that.
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treece300e wrote:
Grasspike wrote:
Apollo Stallion wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Kinda puts things in perspective, no? This time last year, folks seemed to criticize Rob Gronkowski for his on again/off again relationship with porn star Bibi Jones and the party lifestyle he chose to lead. Images and video of Gronk up in the club with bottles in each hand went viral quickly, and folks wanted to crucify him for that. Folks said that he was too occupied with the partying and that sort of lifestyle, and how this could pose to be a distraction if the Pats didn't reign it in somehow.

Let's face it - Gronk is a semi-famous young guy with a lot of money and in great shape. If I was in his position - 22 years old with several million in the bank and single digit body fat - I am confident in saying that I'd be doing the exact same thing, buying bottles of Patron and hooking up with Keylani Lei every weekend. Yet, this time last year, folks were in an uproar...but always managed to mention "Welp, at least the Pats have a solid backup plan in Aaron Hernandez..."

Yeah, so much for that. Moral police was too busying policing the morality of Gronkowski, they completely dropped the ball on this murdering psychopath.


Agreed, but lets not make the mistake of minimizing Gronk's actions because Hernandez were so much worse. From a football perspective, Gronk's actions are still highly irresponsible and unprofessional. Having an active and public social-life isn't a problem in and of itself until it is a problem and it is a problem when you aren't able to be on the field to do your job and there is ample evidence in the public arena that you are doing things that may compromise your rehab and contribute to further missed time. Hell, I've had 2 shoulder surgeries myself and I can tell you the difference in results between the one when I was in college and partying was the priority and the one 8 years later and actually did the prescribed rehab work and went to all my physical therapy appts was night and day. I hosted a bachelor party in the middle of my second rehab schedule and pretty much ended a close friendship because one of my buddies was "drunken wrestle guy" and didn't respect that big sling and cushion as a sign to not mess with me and was unapologetic afterwords even after I explained that I didn't want to go through this painful and expensive process a 3rd time because he can't contain is frat boy bs. Difference is, I didn't have a $54 million deal riding on my physical condition or the scrutiny of an employer, fanbase, and press that is going to connect things like infections, failed procedures, and secondary complications to videos of you pulling WWE moves on your drunk buddies in a Vegas club with your arm still in a sling from your second broken arm within months. Priorities. Consequences. Even uber rich 24 year olds need to have em.

Shockey peaked 4 years into his career, and his Namath-esque life in New York and Vegas will always be looked at as a contributing factor to his slow steady decline. Gronk also has the spectre of Brady and Belichick's eventual retirements looming so he's not in a position to be throwing away important moments even early in his career. Seriously, people were upset last offseason that Arian Foster was becoming a quasi-vegan and worried about boring old Schaub ability to return from his lisfranc. I'll take our "Texan" problems any day.


I still think Foster's conversion to a vegan lifestyle adversely affected his performance this past year. I'm all for being aware about the kind of lifestyle you're living, but there's no way to make that kind of conversion and still perform at the highest level as an athlete.


While I agree that Foster didn't look quite the same last year as he did in previous years, he did complete the season and didn't miss many snaps that I can recall. He had a heavy workload and his body seemed to hold up pretty well. Our O-Line also played a major factor. I don't know what his diet is like now, but I think there is some validity to some alternative training and dieting methods for some people. Some people think that Yoga is just for women, but it's been proven to greatly increase flexibility which reduces injuries. MMA Training was scoffed at and is now becoming more mainstream. I understand that those are supplemental exercises to traditional training, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to try something new if it's something you can easily change, and a diet is certainly that.


Regardless, my point was that the Texans offseasons are generally devoid of anything approaching what other teams go thru largely because we chose to employ professional football players, not thugs and gangsta wannabe's. The Vegan uproar with Arian was baseless as he carried the ball 400 times for 1,654 yards, 17 tds including the playoffs all of which were career highs despite abysmal run blocking on the right side of the line and a TE playing FB. Schaub is never going to please some who prefer gunslingers and runners despite a mountain of evidence showing accurate pocket passing is winning recipe over the long haul, but he still was the best QB in the AFC who isn't a first ballot hall of famer and there was no evidence that his lisfranc had any net effect. About the worst we say about AJ is that he needs to step up and be a more vocal leader at times and perhaps be a little more forthright with injury info. When players step out of line they are quickly reeled in and generally learn from their mistakes (Kareem, Jacoby, Cushing, D. Brown). Even contract squabbles have been dealt with in a manner that makes the organization look brilliant for having not caved to demands. Holdouts, arrests, selfish play just are things we don't have to deal with and I think we have grown to take it for granted. Heck, all Dobbins did was skip a voluntary workout to work on his house and it stands out as a career limiting "doghouse" move. Likewise, Ben Tate stands out as a player lacking the same team-first, selfless work ethic but look at some of the other backs out there including first rounder Ryan Mathews and Mike Goodson who was supposed to be in the hunt for a major workload in NY. We got it good folks, and it starts by trusting that over the long haul compromising on character is a losing proposition even if it yields short-term gains.

Heck, you could put a dozen of names ahead of guys like Arian, Schaub, AJ, Watt, Joseph, Cushing, D. Brown in terms of hype and draft or free agency wow factor, but I could also come up with a dozen guys who flopped at those positions largely due to character issues and left their teams in a worse condition for having not weighed character as an on field and salary cap issue alongside the talent. It may have taken the Texans longer to achieve critical mass, but we are set up for the long haul at this point while character deprived franchises like the Jets, Raiders, Bengals, Eagles, and Titans fall short largely on matters that could be attributed to culture and character. Personally, I'm eagerly awaiting some Seahawks and Ravens implosions this season to cap the Pats shady ethics finally catching up with them.
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Wow... a "distraction" for a team with (repeat) SB aspirations

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_23588549/49ers-linebacker-ahmad-brooks-assault-charge-weighed

Also, if you didn't see the piece on ESPN OTL, they are looking at A-Hern for potentially another shooting when he was still a Gator (Reggie Nelson was accused of being present)

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9446754/mass-police-investigate-aaron-hernandez-possible-role-2007-gainesville-shooting-according-sources

So, to support everyone who talks about how boring the Texans' are in the off-season and it is a good thing... yeah... I'll take it 100%
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And you sir, should be FIRED post haste!

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Broncos Director of Player Personnel Matt Russell was arrested and jailed in Summit County (CO) over the weekend after allegedly crashing his car into two vehicles in two different areas, including a police vehicle.
Russell is suspected of being initially involved in a car crash in Frisco, and "a few minutes later" rear-ended a police car in Breckenridge with his 2008 Toyota Tundra. Russell was arrested at the scene. "Any time anybody is impaired and hits a fully-marked police car, that person should not have been driving in the first place," said a Colorado state trooper. Russell, a well-known executive working under John Elway, has been charged with DUI, careless driving resulting in injury, having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle, and failure to display proof of insurance.
via rotoworld via http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/07/08/broncos-player-personnel-director-arrested/

The officer was in his car when it was struck and suffered minor injuries. Russell only had to post $1,000 cash bond to get out. Did I mention he had an open container when he hit the cop car? Cause yeah, he had an open container when he hit the MARKED police car with an officer in it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jch1911 wrote:
And you sir, should be FIRED post haste!

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Broncos Director of Player Personnel Matt Russell was arrested and jailed in Summit County (CO) over the weekend after allegedly crashing his car into two vehicles in two different areas, including a police vehicle.
Russell is suspected of being initially involved in a car crash in Frisco, and "a few minutes later" rear-ended a police car in Breckenridge with his 2008 Toyota Tundra. Russell was arrested at the scene. "Any time anybody is impaired and hits a fully-marked police car, that person should not have been driving in the first place," said a Colorado state trooper. Russell, a well-known executive working under John Elway, has been charged with DUI, careless driving resulting in injury, having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle, and failure to display proof of insurance.
via rotoworld via http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/07/08/broncos-player-personnel-director-arrested/

The officer was in his car when it was struck and suffered minor injuries. Russell only had to post $1,000 cash bond to get out. Did I mention he had an open container when he hit the cop car? Cause yeah, he had an open container when he hit the MARKED police car with an officer in it.


Well at least this is one Bronco we WON'T Hire!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB Sage Rosenfels just announced his retirement:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn you Billy, I had almost forgotten about the Rosencopter play Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumberjackchris wrote:
Darn you Billy, I had almost forgotten about the Rosencopter play Crying or Very sad


I think I laughed a little too hard at that post.
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