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kenney


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...and Romo better than Schaub right? Laughing


That team's problem is NOT Tony Romo. In fact, you could start with Jerry Jones, move down the list to Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan, include their entire offensive line, and throw in all but two or three players on their defense.

Dez Bryant makes Brandon Marshall look sane, composed, and dedicated, and Miles Austin and Kevin Ogletree are the two most wildly overrated wide receivers I can think of.

Romo in a competent organization is a top flight quarterback.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenney wrote:
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...and Romo better than Schaub right? Laughing


That team's problem is NOT Tony Romo. In fact, you could start with Jerry Jones, move down the list to Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan, include their entire offensive line, and throw in all but two or three players on their defense.

Dez Bryant makes Brandon Marshall look sane, composed, and dedicated, and Miles Austin and Kevin Ogletree are the two most wildly overrated wide receivers I can think of.

Romo in a competent organization is a top flight quarterback.


This is where I laugh at all of those people who complain about fantasy stats when it comes to the Texans passing game. For all that Schaub, Daniels, Walter, and lately AJ may lack in gaudy stats and highlight reel 60 yard TDs, we throw only when the situation dictates like Denver begging us to beat them over the top. If a team wants to sit in cover 2, just patiently take those 4-5 yard running plays and 8 yard passes over the middle and win the game. Give me 5 disciplined and reliable receivers over the flash and unreliability of Dez Bryant or Kenny Britt any day (I would love to see how many turnovers Jacoby was responsible for the past few years with tips, bad routes, etc). Commitment to the run makes your defense better as well as you get to play with a lead and forces them into the mistakes. Even the Patriots have seemed to learn that sending your QB back 40 times every game isn't always warranted. I'm telling you, watch the trend line on Big Ben throwing more each season and then look at the trend line on their record. The Saints have become a disaster in part because they don't even give token attention to the run anymore, even though they are actually a decent running team when committed to it. Everything is cyclical in this league, and I promise you the pendulum is in the process of swinging away from 40 passes per game and back towards gashing teams with the run and all you have to look to is the relative draft position of DTs and LBs in the draft vs. CBs to see why this is a great time to be run focused. The Eagles last year and Bills this year are the classic example of defenses that become overcommitted to pass defense and pass rush and can be ripped apart on the ground or short passing game. The Titans have been there for a while as well as they don't seem to have gotten the memo that you need to be able to cover a TE in this league.

BTW - Romo will get more blame than he deserves, just like Sanchez is getting, as people never blame running backs for losing games, but there are still no excuses for 5 passes getting intercepted as ultimately the QB still decides who he throws to. If Dez is hanging you out to dry, stop looking his way and take it up in the film room. Sorry, what part of that guy makes you think he would be able to comprehend site adjustments. He's no Princeton grad.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bills fans are starting to trip about Mario on twitter. Laughing

He only had 2 tackles today against the Patriots, and 1.5 sacks on the season.


Without question, the "cherry on top" after the Texans game was the "live look in" on the Bills/Patriots with the commentators almost on cue trashing Mario Williams and the entire Bills line. I said it the second they pieced together that front 7 that any OC with 1/2 a brain would see that they merely replicated the Eagles poor tackling mess from last year and that you would be able to run all day on that group of edge pass rushing specialists that would never get anyone to 3rd and long to cash in on their investment. Remember, they played NYJ, KC, Cleve before New England so it's not like they had even gone up against elite offenses yet and won't the next 3 weeks vs. SF, Arizona, and Tenn, but you've got to figure when New England has two running backs go off for 100 yards on them, the book is officially out on them.

Better still, just as I maintained his entire tenure here, Mario disappears in the biggest games against all but the worst LTs and all they have done is give up 100 points in two games against division rivals Jets and Pats. His problem was never one of talent or skill, it was heart, and his lack of it was on full display as some UDFA named Brandon Bolden made a mockery of their $100 million investment in the 2nd half. I wonder what Mario's excuse was this week with no refs to blame? I don't think Mario is going to find the go-to apologists in the Buffalo press that he had here in Houston that always brought up some injury weeks after another disappearing act to rationalize it or blame it on the rest of the line or the secondary. Texan media and fans may have been fooled by his stat padding against teams like the Browns and blind to how easily he was schemed around by the good offenses, but that $100 million paycheck is going to finally shine the spotlight on the limitations of one of the game's most overrated players. In other news, anyone miss Brisiel, Dreessen, or J. Allen either?


On queue, Mario is now blaming his failure on a previously undisclosed injury to his wrist. Freaking pathetic. Will always be a loser. What a waste.
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On queue, Mario is now blaming his failure on a previously undisclosed injury to his wrist. Freaking pathetic. Will always be a loser. What a waste.


...meanwhile, back in Houston...JJ Watt is playing with a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque brace on his arm due to a dislocated elbow...and playing at an MVP level.

Funny how perspective changes. I used to be one of those defending Williams as a Texan, and now...well, I don't have a leg to stand on now, do I?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apollo Stallion wrote:
On queue, Mario is now blaming his failure on a previously undisclosed injury to his wrist. Freaking pathetic. Will always be a loser. What a waste.


...meanwhile, back in Houston...JJ Watt is playing with a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque brace on his arm due to a dislocated elbow...and playing at an MVP level.

Funny how perspective changes. I used to be one of those defending Williams as a Texan, and now...well, I don't have a leg to stand on now, do I?
I defended Mario too. Nobody knew Watt was going to make this type of leap as a player. Mario was a top physical specimen but wasn't much of a football player. Watt is the definition of hard work, combined with his abnormal physical gifts, you get something you never got with Mario; consistency.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EliteTexan80 wrote:
Apollo Stallion wrote:
On queue, Mario is now blaming his failure on a previously undisclosed injury to his wrist. Freaking pathetic. Will always be a loser. What a waste.


...meanwhile, back in Houston...JJ Watt is playing with a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque brace on his arm due to a dislocated elbow...and playing at an MVP level.

Funny how perspective changes. I used to be one of those defending Williams as a Texan, and now...well, I don't have a leg to stand on now, do I?


Geez. You need to stop with the flag football. The injuries are getting out of hand.
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Well, only 2 undefeated's remain.
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Speaking of shrewd football/financial decisions my Rick Smith, I don't think we have called enough attention to the greatness that was the Johnathan Joseph signing. Instead of signing someone who's value was inflated because of the way he was used and the makeup of the roster that had them as the clear #1 CB to be avoided, we signed someone who was overshadowed by a teammate (Leon Hall) and allowed him to reach his full potential here. We signed 27 year old Johnathan Joseph for 5 years / $48.75, while the Falcons paid $57 million for Dunta Robinson and Eagles paid $60 million for 30 year old Nnamdi Asomugha (the 2 highest paid corners in NFL history).

No need to go into detail on the albatross that is Dunta's contract for the Falcons, but for all the hype on Nnamdi's free agency, he has been at best underwhelming in Philly and at worst just as ill advised as the Dunta deal since they set a contract record on a guy who is a #2 CB already and going to slip further with age. Seems it wasn't that everyone wasn't so much afraid to throw his way in Oakland, but rather just chose to beat them on the ground or exploit their #2's or safeties. Did you catch the Giants rolling straight down the field with Ramses Barden this week with him getting torched for a 31 yarder and a critical PI penalty? Absolutely reminded me of an 08 game vs. the Vikings where Bernard Berrian / Gus Frerrotte torched Dunta and I knew the mystique was officially done with him even if the Texans gave him another year to prove it (and the Falcons apparently only watched the 2004 & 2005 tapes).

The Eagles have provided so many excuses for Scrabble at this point it is ridiculous with everything from scheme to minor injuries, to Asante Samuel's ineffectiveness to DRCs greatness explaining why Scrabble hasn't delivered. I'm not so much concerned that Scrabble continues to ride on reputation than frustrated at the lack of attention paid to adding Johnathan Joseph and Daniel Manning to one of the 3 worst secondaries of all time helping turn it into one that has been the NFLs second best ever since and that's with the likes of Kareem Jackson, Brice McCain, Quintin Demps and Troy Nolan pitching in, not Pro Bowlers like Asante, DRC, or Brent Grimes. I get the sense that people thought last year was a fluke for Joseph and our secondary, but this year ought to cement Joseph with the same status Scrabble once held and his annual AFC All Pro spot. JJ Watt has been great, but the other JJs achievements shouldn't get lost in that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jargin wrote:
EliteTexan80 wrote:
Apollo Stallion wrote:
On queue, Mario is now blaming his failure on a previously undisclosed injury to his wrist. Freaking pathetic. Will always be a loser. What a waste.


...meanwhile, back in Houston...JJ Watt is playing with a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque brace on his arm due to a dislocated elbow...and playing at an MVP level.

Funny how perspective changes. I used to be one of those defending Williams as a Texan, and now...well, I don't have a leg to stand on now, do I?
I defended Mario too. Nobody knew Watt was going to make this type of leap as a player. Mario was a top physical specimen but wasn't much of a football player. Watt is the definition of hard work, combined with his abnormal physical gifts, you get something you never got with Mario; consistency.


And the Mario saga continues

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/07/league-looking-into-bills-failure-to-disclose-williams-injury/

The bills are now being looked at by the league for not report Marios injuy



Also

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/07/wade-phillips-i-want-to-be-a-head-coach-again-but-i-dont-think-i-will/

You always want to progress in your career til you get to the top, but like Wade mentioned I dont think teams will have much interest because of his age. Which is great for us, come on Wade ride off into the sunset here in Houston.
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What a comeback by the Colts, man Luck is the real deal and Reggie Wayne has not lost a step. Don't know what to make of the Pack, guess will find out first hand next week.

The Ravens struggled with the Chiefs, the Cicny struggled with Miami, and Pitt and Philly played an ugly game, but Pitt looks alot better with Mendenhall back.
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Why on earth would Wade want to be a head coach again, I mean he's had his now he should enjoy being a coordinator.
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Why on earth would Wade want to be a head coach again, I mean he's had his now he should enjoy being a coordinator.


NFL coaches are some of the most competitive human beings on Earth. They're not happy unless they're top dogs, especially once they get a taste of a head coaching job. And even the worst ones think they can compete for Super Bowls every year. That's just the nature of the beast.
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Kinda shocked that the Titans beat the Steelers, their injuries are really killing them.
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Kinda shocked that the Titans beat the Steelers, their injuries are really killing them.


Kendall Wright Cool
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lumberjackchris wrote:
Kinda shocked that the Titans beat the Steelers, their injuries are really killing them.


Kendall Wright Cool


Ya I know Locker has the talent but Hasselback is probably better for them than Locker right now.
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