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nlesthought


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
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^^ That's expected, what were these guys doing before hand?


Most of them were refs for Division 2 and 3 college football, and one of them was even a ref for the Lingerie Football League. Laughing I believe all of them had jobs outside of their reffing gigs, whereas the real refs only had that job.


Wrong!

Real refs have weekday jobs as well. That's why they are in such a strong negotiation position.

Hercules is a lawyer!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Hochuli

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Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in the Arizona law firm of Jones, Skelton and Hochuli, P.L.C. since it was founded in 1983


[Apparently with Pacman Jones and John Skelton]


Dammit Marky stealing my thunder.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlesthought wrote:
Eagles_808 wrote:
SiLo wrote:
^^ That's expected, what were these guys doing before hand?


Most of them were refs for Division 2 and 3 college football, and one of them was even a ref for the Lingerie Football League. Laughing I believe all of them had jobs outside of their reffing gigs, whereas the real refs only had that job.


Ed "Big Guns" Hochuli is a trial lawyer in Phoenix, I read an article somewhere.


See above

Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't part of the problem with the lockout that the NFL wants to make the refs full time and they don't want that, because they'll have to quit their regular jobs?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
Eagles_808 wrote:
SiLo wrote:
^^ That's expected, what were these guys doing before hand?


Most of them were refs for Division 2 and 3 college football, and one of them was even a ref for the Lingerie Football League. Laughing I believe all of them had jobs outside of their reffing gigs, whereas the real refs only had that job.


Wrong!

Real refs have weekday jobs as well. That's why they are in such a strong negotiation position.

Hercules is a lawyer!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Hochuli

Quote:
Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in the Arizona law firm of Jones, Skelton and Hochuli, P.L.C. since it was founded in 1983


[Apparently with Pacman Jones and John Skelton]

Yea part of this whole thing is the possibility to going to professional Refs with no other job, the NFL would have an "academy" and train them all in house rather then plucking the better refs from college.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the big thing was about the pensions

(Which interests me as I work in the pensions consultancy sector)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is they will have to increase their pay

42K to 67K

you have to put in 10yrs to make 100K...not including playoffs

http://www.askmen.com/sports/business_60/77b_sports_business.html
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How often do these guys ref? That's not a bad salary considering most of the year is offseason and you'd ref once a week right?

Although in a multi billion dollar entertainment industry the nfl would still be getting a bargain.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phire wrote:
How often do these guys ref? That's not a bad salary considering most of the year is offseason and you'd ref once a week right?

Although in a multi billion dollar entertainment industry the nfl would still be getting a bargain.

Yea, plus playoffs which I think is like a big bonus.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiltman wrote:
Phire wrote:
How often do these guys ref? That's not a bad salary considering most of the year is offseason and you'd ref once a week right?

Although in a multi billion dollar entertainment industry the nfl would still be getting a bargain.

Yea, plus playoffs which I think is like a big bonus.


Everyone else involved in the New CBA is going to make more money over the next decade. Why shouldn't the Refs? It doesn't matter what they make in comparisons to every day people like you and I but whats relevant to the NFL product being sold.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.
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Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.


He should take a page out of Shawn Andrews' book and start making music.
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Phire wrote:
Dr. Philly wrote:
Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.


He should take a page out of Shawn Andrews' book and start making music.


Bearded rapper?
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RainbowCarebear wrote:
Phire wrote:
Dr. Philly wrote:
Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.


He should take a page out of Shawn Andrews' book and start making music.


Bearded rapper?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqtg3DjVP0
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Phire wrote:
RainbowCarebear wrote:
Phire wrote:
Dr. Philly wrote:
Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.


He should take a page out of Shawn Andrews' book and start making music.


Bearded rapper?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqtg3DjVP0


Talent galore.

Kelce could be a metal dude though.
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RainbowCarebear wrote:
Phire wrote:
RainbowCarebear wrote:
Phire wrote:
Dr. Philly wrote:
Kelce isn't doing so well, he forgot to pay the cable bill so he has no TV while out of surgery.


He should take a page out of Shawn Andrews' book and start making music.


Bearded rapper?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqtg3DjVP0


Talent galore.

Kelce could be a metal dude though.


Hes too big. Unless he played bass or the drums he can't.
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