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mark sanchez


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: 3 positives and 3 negatives from Week 1 AND Week 2(seperate) Reply with quote

Self-explanatory, I'm trying to get a feel for the goods and bads of all the teams so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

week one had no positives. I'll do a week two though.

Positives:
1. Special teams play from Masthay, Crosby, and Cobb. Not much to say but that they were instrumental in the field position game.
2. Which is better, the pass rush or the coverage? Both were outstanding and complimentary.
3. Ced Benson and the O-Line Gang. Sounds like a good old-timey band name. They played very well against the Bears last night.

Negatives:
1. WRs and the Hands. Too many drops for any game, let alone a tough rivalry one.
2. Run defense. Forte and Bush are tough assignments, but we had a hard time slowing them down. Regularly between 4 and 8 yard pickups, only a couple of stops in the backfield.
3. Finley. He was invisible all game. Well, all game save an embarrassing fumble in the red zone.
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justo


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

week 1:
+Randall Cobb, dude looked like a flat out "playmaker" from the start
+Clay Matthews, on another level
+Masthay, thank God we no longer have Kapinos
-OL run blocking, couldn't get much going with 2 YPC on designed runs (yay for Rodgers)
-DJ Smith, looked lost in the passing game
-no huddle offense, didn't look like the guys were on the same page

week 2:
+running game, much better than it was last week
+defense as a whole, started two more rookies, added another in the dime and everyone really showed up against the Bears
+Clay Matthews again, dude is going to break the sack record
-Rodgers, he doesn't look the same this year, not like he's terrible just looks like something is frustrating him
-Finley, dude drops every other pass and doesn't block with effort
-OL pass blocking, still way too many sacks on Rodgers, not all their fault but the dude has to wear a special helmet because of concussion, c'mon
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Positives:

1. ST's as said before(Both games)
2. Pass rush from Clay and Raji. Worthy and Perry added competition to the team and the rest of the pass rushers are more fresh because of it(Both games)
3. Randall Cobb is going to be an explosive weapon for the Pack(Niners)
4. Offensive line play. See below about the sacks.(Bears).

Negatives:
1. Aaron Rodgers hasn't been himself. He's been sacked and sacked often, most of the time it has been his fault again(Both games)
2. The WR's and Finley have not helped Rodgers whatsoever. Way too many drops and the only WR that has ran crisp routes consistently has been Jordy(Both games).
3. Center field defense, whether it is on the players or the call that they are playing - if Chicago had a competent TE as the Niners did the game last night would've been different(both games)
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driftwood


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 3 positives and 3 negatives from Week 1 AND Week 2(seper Reply with quote

mark sanchez wrote:
Self-explanatory, I'm trying to get a feel for the goods and bads of all the teams so far.


by the way, this is a nice thing to do, i would be interested in reading these threads in other teams sub forums to see what the thoughts are around the league thus far... hopefully you get some good feedback

THE GOOD (2 games in thus far)

- Clay Matthews (he has never had a bad year even though his sack total lacked last year)... hes always been consistent & is our most crucial defensive player who is playing on an on another galaxy this year

- our ST's is top 5, FINALLY!... Cobb is a fantastic return man (& also a very explosive WR), Mason Crosby has an elite leg (arguably the strongest in the league). & our punter Tim Masthay has consistently been a top 5 punter the last year & 2 games... easily (he may even get voted into the pro bowl this year)

- Tramon Williams is an elite CB (top 10 IMO)... shouldn’t even be debatable


THE BAD

- Finley (in our defense us Packer fans hyped him because of his skill set & ability & rightfully so IMO)... but he has not lived up to the hype with his terribly inconsistant play, & mostly his 20+% drop rate... thats unacceptable & i dont know if he has the mental state to ever fix it

- our defensive play calling... capers has the ability to create a great plan as seen against the bears last night... but he will trot out a terrible plan like he did against the 9ers & never fully adjust... it boggles my mind that someone with his knowledge allows that type of stubborn mindset to happen more often than it should

- WR drops... for some reason this team is so damn talented at the WR position but continually drop simple passes from Rodgers... even our best playmakers (Jennings,/Nelson are just as guilty of it)... our group is so explosive but consistently drop way more catchable passes than they should which has a lot to do with how much our offense is sputtering thus far in the year (drops = drive killers)
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justo


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 3 positives and 3 negatives from Week 1 AND Week 2(seper Reply with quote

driftwood wrote:
- Tramon Williams is an elite CB (top 10 IMO)... shouldn’t even be debatable

That's something I totally forgot about. I was talking to a couple Packer fans at the bar last night after his second pick and we were wondering when people would start thinking of him as a "shutdown" CB. Dude's doing a great job so far
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byzr


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

week 1 vs 49ers
good:

Special teams - Masthay put the ball inside the 20 and gave good hang time. Cobb is becoming a legit threat returning the ball.

Clay Matthews - putting pressure on the QB.

Resolve - we were down in this game and no one gave up. we came back to make it a competitive game

Bad:

coverages - we had to many broken defensive plays because of mis-matches. LBers on WRs in man coverage.

Finleys hands - dropped 3rd down balls.

Run D


week 2 vs Bears

good:

Pass rush against a bad offensive line was effective all night and caused turnovers. when we should get pressure we did and this should build confidence.

Tramon and the S over the top took Marshall out of the game completely. being able to shut down a legit WR is going to be nice with Megatron and Marshall twice a year.

Cedric Benson had over a hundred in carries and receptions. having some semblance of a run game is only going to make our offense more potent.

Bad:

We weren't really able to put the game away. we led by 13 most of the game but if Jones hadn't blown that route we could have probably put that game away. we have to become a team that puts teams away.

O-Line is still very shaky. we've played some tough pass rushing teams, the Smiths of San Fran, Peppers, and Melton. they have to be better though nothing else to say. hopefully if some guys get healthy maybe we'll get better cause our division is full of the BEST pass rushers in the league.

short yardage running was pretty terrible. i know it's not our strength but seeing Kuhn get stopped a yard short of the LOS was just awful.

just my 2 cents.
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