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| Have Dontari Poe start against the Buffalo Bills at nose tackle with Anthony Toribio as the primary backup. |
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| Have Anthony Toribio start at nose tackle with Dontari Poe filling the primary role of nickel defender as was gameplanned in the offseason. |
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jimmydee
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Speaking of DJ: Were his drops too shallow last week or was he just not able to get there with the bad wheel. He got thrown "over" several times when a 2 yard deeper drop would have made a difference. Maybe that's the technique, but if it is it didn't work. Thoughts?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| jimmydee wrote: | | Speaking of DJ: Were his drops too shallow last week or was he just not able to get there with the bad wheel. He got thrown "over" several times when a 2 yard deeper drop would have made a difference. Maybe that's the technique, but if it is it didn't work. Thoughts? |
He was a beast in the run game and was flowing to the ball really well, so I don't know if it was a case of him not being able to get deep enough or more a case of his zone was too shallow based on the gameplan. Personally, I don't think he was getting deep enough not because he couldn't physically.
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | I don't care who starts, but rotate them at NT and also have Poe play as the nickel rusher. So overall, Poe should see more snaps....not only did he play well, but he is the future, so not much reason to do otherwise.
Anyone know how many snaps Poe got on Sunday? I know he's got some good stamina. (Ryk, i'm counting on you for a joke here) |
Poe got 36 snaps. Powe got 16.
I would say start Toribio in the base D, and move to Poe in other formations.
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Chiefer
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Start Poe. Let him find his consistency through on the field play. Toribio has zero starting experience and has bounced around the league, rather the first rounder be in there and learn the ropes now.
A healthy rotation is needed though of course.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Chiefer wrote: | Start Poe. Let him find his consistency through on the field play. Toribio has zero starting experience and has bounced around the league, rather the first rounder be in there and learn the ropes now.
A healthy rotation is needed though of course. |
Bounced around the league how exactly. IIRC we claimed him of the Packers' PS. End of story. That is rather different front being cut multiple times.
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samsel23
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | Chiefer wrote: | Start Poe. Let him find his consistency through on the field play. Toribio has zero starting experience and has bounced around the league, rather the first rounder be in there and learn the ropes now.
A healthy rotation is needed though of course. |
Bounced around the league how exactly. IIRC we claimed him of the Packers' PS. End of story. That is rather different front being cut multiple times.
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I also believe many Packers thought he was one of their best 53, just too many NT's.
I for one don't care who starts, for once there is actually a few guys at a position that I believe would contribute solidly.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| samsel23 wrote: | | onejayhawk wrote: | | Chiefer wrote: | Start Poe. Let him find his consistency through on the field play. Toribio has zero starting experience and has bounced around the league, rather the first rounder be in there and learn the ropes now.
A healthy rotation is needed though of course. |
Bounced around the league how exactly. IIRC we claimed him of the Packers' PS. End of story. That is rather different front being cut multiple times.
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I also believe many Packers thought he was one of their best 53, just too many NT's.
I for one don't care who starts, for once there is actually a few guys at a position that I believe would contribute solidly. |
And there have been several NT's to emerge after years of obscurity. It's nto always the way obviously, but given the learning curve, it's not uncommon to have someone like Aubrayo Franklin be a nobody for 4 years before "bursting" onto the seen. Sione Pouha is another example.
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I want Poe to be able to play Dorsey's spot in base D at some point. That way we can use him a lot like Ngata. If he can have even close to that impact it will provide a huge boost to our base d in the pass rush department and possibly even the run game even tho 72 is a beast in that regard. Toribio will play NT no doubt in my mind until he falters
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nicfre2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| EB29 wrote: | | I want Poe to be able to play Dorsey's spot in base D at some point. That way we can use him a lot like Ngata. If he can have even close to that impact it will provide a huge boost to our base d in the pass rush department and possibly even the run game even tho 72 is a beast in that regard. Toribio will play NT no doubt in my mind until he falters |
That is exactly what I was thinking in my clarification of the intended "other". Toribio could serve as our base 3-4 nose tackle and eventually Poe could play base 3-4 defensive end to replace Dorsey and give our line alot of versatility similar to the way Green Bay moved Pickett and Raji around. I could see Poe playing end in the base and sliding in to nose tackle in the nickle package. Not saying Poe is there yet, but an interesting idea to say the least.
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Arrowhead86
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| EB29 wrote: | | I want Poe to be able to play Dorsey's spot in base D at some point. That way we can use him a lot like Ngata. If he can have even close to that impact it will provide a huge boost to our base d in the pass rush department and possibly even the run game even tho 72 is a beast in that regard. Toribio will play NT no doubt in my mind until he falters |
This is a great point and I wish I'd made it in the other thread discussing cap room and upcoming Chiefs free agents (Dorsey). In that thread I mentioned we should be able to move on from him because of other players but this one is the really gets me excited.
I hope Toribio can continue the progressions he showed in preseason and open the door to these kind of variations.
edit: ninja'd by nicfre!  I'm eating lunch while posting. Arthur Bryants today!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| nicfre2011 wrote: | | EB29 wrote: | | I want Poe to be able to play Dorsey's spot in base D at some point. That way we can use him a lot like Ngata. If he can have even close to that impact it will provide a huge boost to our base d in the pass rush department and possibly even the run game even tho 72 is a beast in that regard. Toribio will play NT no doubt in my mind until he falters |
That is exactly what I was thinking in my clarification of the intended "other". Toribio could serve as our base 3-4 nose tackle and eventually Poe could play base 3-4 defensive end to replace Dorsey and give our line alot of versatility similar to the way Green Bay moved Pickett and Raji around. I could see Poe playing end in the base and sliding in to nose tackle in the nickle package. Not saying Poe is there yet, but an interesting idea to say the least. |
Me and Ryk have had many discussions about the possibility of this happening and we both agreed it would be a great move. There is no doubt in my mind that Pioli was thinking about that as well so that Dorsey now becomes expendable and we can focus on re signing guys like Albert and Jackson (and Bowe)
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Chiefer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | Chiefer wrote: | Start Poe. Let him find his consistency through on the field play. Toribio has zero starting experience and has bounced around the league, rather the first rounder be in there and learn the ropes now.
A healthy rotation is needed though of course. |
Bounced around the league how exactly. IIRC we claimed him of the Packers' PS. End of story. That is rather different front being cut multiple times.
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Chiefs are currently his 3rd team.
Toribio isn't gonna play this Sunday anyway as he's still limited in practice so keep bring on the Poe Monster. 
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