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Purple-Pride07


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matt Ryan will be in the conversation.


For now, but I expect that to tail off a bit by season's end. Matt Ryan is a well above-average quarterback, but he -- along with his team's record -- is a pretty strong example of over-achievement. His final production should fall relatively in-line with that of his 2010 and 2011 stat lines. Both of which were very good, but not MVP-worthy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
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Currently at 1128 yards through first 10 games
Currently averaging 112.6 ypg



Not trying to knitpick but 1128/10=112.8.

Can't believe I'm that guy. Embarassed


Wow, nice catch. My excuse was....it was late


Just tell him it was shrinkage. The temps are dropping, after all.
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The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he


Only player there who has a decent argument as being superior is Calvin Johnson.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he


Only player there who has a decent argument as being superior is Calvin Johnson.


Joe Thomas has been good for Cleveland, but he's no Adrian Peterson.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2007 is one of the best first round drafts ever. Five players taken in the first round are the best at their position in the entire league. And a number of other great players.
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plus Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Revis...

not Brady Quinn so much though.

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Adrian Peterson is averaging 112.8 yards rushing per game and a career-high 5.8 yards per carry. In NFL history, only three running backs have ever finished a season at those thresholds: Barry Sanders (1997), O.J. Simpson (1973) and Jim Brown (1958, 1963). Sanders, Simpson and Brown in 1958 were named AP NFL MVP.

The fact that Peterson is flirting with history less than a year after tearing his ACL and MCL should be enough to make him the top comeback story this season, but there are a few more statistical tidbits that only help support that position.

Peterson has averaged 2.8 yards per rush AFTER first contact. Itís his highest rate over the last four seasons, and the second-best rate in the NFL this season (C.J. Spiller, 3.0).

Peterson has needed the power boost because he has faced eight or more defenders in the box on a league-high 57 rushes this season Ė and even that hasnít slowed him down. Peterson is averaging a league-best 6.3 yards per rush against such defensive fronts.

You canít discount his speed, either. Peterson has gained 20-plus yards on 13 runs this season, almost twice as many as the next highest rushers (LeSean McCoy and Spiller, 7). The most 20-yard runs Peterson has had in a season was 20 in 2008.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/55756/better-comeback-peyton-or-peterson
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
plus Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Revis...

not Brady Quinn so much though.

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Woof.

I still maintain that had he gone to the right situation, he'd have stood a much better chance.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw this tweeted, Peterson, leading the league in rushing, has more rushing yards than 21 teams.
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Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he


Only player there who has a decent argument as being superior is Calvin Johnson.


Joe Thomas has been good for Cleveland, but he's no Adrian Peterson.


Joe Thomas has probably been better than Calvin Johnson
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worm Guts wrote:
Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he


Only player there who has a decent argument as being superior is Calvin Johnson.


Joe Thomas has been good for Cleveland, but he's no Adrian Peterson.


Joe Thomas has probably been better than Calvin Johnson


He used to be.

His run blocking has never been fantastic, but for the first 4 years of his career you could very easily argue he was the leagues best left tackle. The run blocking has regressed considerably and the pass pro skills aren't as elite as they were circa 2008. He's still fantastic, don't get me wrong, but he's not Calvin Johnson at his position, if we're discussing 2007.
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Worm Guts wrote:
Klomp wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
The six players chosen ahead of Peterson in the 2007 Draft were, in order:

quarterback JaMarcus Russell
wide receiver Calvin Johnson
offensive tackle Joe Thomas
defensive end Gaines Adams
offensive tackle Levi Brown
defensive back LaRon Landry.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22010904/shooter-now-vikings-drafted-adrian-peterson-knowing-he


Only player there who has a decent argument as being superior is Calvin Johnson.


Joe Thomas has been good for Cleveland, but he's no Adrian Peterson.


Joe Thomas has probably been better than Calvin Johnson


I'd agree with you if it was 2009
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Calvin Johnson is probably better right now, but in terms of a career Joe Thomas is a 4-time all pro. I think Thomas has had the better career to this point.
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Adrian Peterson, on being in the conversation for the leagueís MVP:

ďIt feels good. I play this game to be the best. When you get in talks about the MVP, then other people are looking at you in that light, too. Itís cool. Iím just going to continue doing what Iím doing, not worrying about that, and everything else will fall into place.Ē

http://min.scout.com/2/1242911.html
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