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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Official JJ Watt For MVP Thread Reply with quote

NOW is the appropriate time to lobby for individual awards, State your case!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JJ Watt is the only player under 99 years old with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player named Justin with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from Houston with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from Pewaukee, WI with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only 2 star recruit with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from a Big 10 school with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player who played at any school with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player taken after 3 "franchise QBs" with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player not to win an MVP despite having 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player with a 37 inch verical jump with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has the largest jersey number (99) of any player to have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has the smallest number (99) of any player to have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has bled more pints of blood on himself than any player who has had 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player in NFL history to score 5 TDs, a safety, and have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player born onto this planet or any others we know to have human life to have 2 20 sack seasons
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope Romo and Murray split the vote and JJ rides in. He needs Rodgers to look bad vs. Lions d this afternoon. Still a longshot in my book given the Cowboys and Packers love and exposure, but IMO he did MORE than enough to earn it especially in setting historic totals like another 20+ sack season and scoring TD's on a pick 6, fumble 6, 3 receiving TDs and now a safety. Texans PR department needs to be out there with the elevator pitch that also includes leading the NFL in QB hits, hurries, tackles for loss. With all due respect to the seasons Rodgers, Romo, and Murray have had, plenty of teams have ridden QB & RBs to winning seasons, but Watt's dominance on defense is practically unprecedented. Even LT had help from a Hall of Fame coaching staff (Parcells & Coughlin), hall of famer Harry Carson, Leonard Marshall, Jim Burt, Carl Banks, Brad Van Pelt, and a unit with 24 Pro Bowl selections over 3 years of dominance. JJ has a line made up of a 4th rounder in Crick and rotating street garbage at NT, a gimpy Cushing, inconsistent Mercilus, a crippled Clowney, UDFA ILBs, and a secondary with JJoe, KJack and rotation of 5 others nobody else wanted. All of this to go with an offense led by a backup quality starter who gave way to 3 backups and STILL finished 5-2.

It's tough to argue about where the Packers would be without Rodgers (I'd say easily fighting for the Bears for last place), but at the very least there were a few Eddie Lacy games mixed in and Jordy Nelson is a Pro Bowler and Cobb should have been and all 3 have amazing YAC totals contributing to Rodgers gaudy stat lines. Murray has been amazing and more than anyone in the league CARRIED his team to their 6-2 start, but I imagine they are still a playoff team with Randle back there as he has averaged 5.8 ypc behind 3 Pro Bowl lineman. I think the best arguments against Romo are his teammates in that o-line, Murray, and Dez Bryant not to mention he only has one 300 yard game all season (against the Texans of course), and I don't think you give the MVP to a game manager in this era.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apollo Stallion wrote:
JJ Watt is the only player under 99 years old with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player named Justin with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from Houston with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from Pewaukee, WI with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only 2 star recruit with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player from a Big 10 school with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player who played at any school with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player taken after 3 "franchise QBs" with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player not to win an MVP despite having 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player with a 37 inch verical jump with 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has the largest jersey number (99) of any player to have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has the smallest number (99) of any player to have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt has bled more pints of blood on himself than any player who has had 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player in NFL history to score 5 TDs, a safety, and have 2 20 sack seasons.
JJ Watt is the only player born onto this planet or any others we know to have human life to have 2 20 sack seasons


post of the year....way to get it in 3 days before the deadline
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they should've given it to Watt last time he had 20 sacks. That season might've been better than this one (16 pass knockdowns that year) defensively speaking. They gave it to Peterson that year, and he didn't even break any records.

Considering they snubbed him that season, and he came back and did it again, adding 3 TD receptions and a pick six this time, I think its a no brainer but obviously the media is likely to see it a different way.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
I thought they should've given it to Watt last time he had 20 sacks. That season might've been better than this one (16 pass knockdowns that year) defensively speaking. They gave it to Peterson that year, and he didn't even break any records.

Considering they snubbed him that season, and he came back and did it again, adding 3 TD receptions and a pick six this time, I think its a no brainer but obviously the media is likely to see it a different way.


And a fumble 6, and a safety. Come on, PR dept, don't short sell him.

Aaron Rodgers is not going to lead his position in any major stat (yards, tds, rating, comp%). Romo will lead in rating and comp % but is 14th in yardage. Murray's stat line is dominant, but Forsett, Hill, Foster, and Bell had better ypc and Lynch, Lacy, Stewart, and Miller were all tied with him. Hopefully, by now we understand that RB performance is dictated by o-line play and workload and that RBs really shouldn't be MVP candidates anymore.

Justin Houston was the only defender in the same galaxy as JJ this year and JJ bested him in every stat besides 1/2 sack (which needs to be reviewed since he was gifted one today by the Chiefs official scorer) including tackles, hits, hurries, tackles for loss, passes defended, ints, int Tds, fumble recoveries, and fumble TDs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apollo Stallion wrote:
PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
I thought they should've given it to Watt last time he had 20 sacks. That season might've been better than this one (16 pass knockdowns that year) defensively speaking. They gave it to Peterson that year, and he didn't even break any records.

Considering they snubbed him that season, and he came back and did it again, adding 3 TD receptions and a pick six this time, I think its a no brainer but obviously the media is likely to see it a different way.


And a fumble 6, and a safety. Come on, PR dept, don't short sell him.

Aaron Rodgers is not going to lead his position in any major stat (yards, tds, rating, comp%). Romo will lead in rating and comp % but is 14th in yardage. Murray's stat line is dominant, but Forsett, Hill, Foster, and Bell had better ypc and Lynch, Lacy, Stewart, and Miller were all tied with him. Hopefully, by now we understand that RB performance is dictated by o-line play and workload and that RBs really shouldn't be MVP candidates anymore.

Justin Houston was the only defender in the same galaxy as JJ this year and JJ bested him in every stat besides 1/2 sack (which needs to be reviewed since he was gifted one today by the Chiefs official scorer) including tackles, hits, hurries, tackles for loss, passes defended, ints, int Tds, fumble recoveries, and fumble TDs.


Add in the sack vs Baltimore last week on the 2 pt conversion and JJ wins.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
I thought they should've given it to Watt last time he had 20 sacks. That season might've been better than this one (16 pass knockdowns that year) defensively speaking. They gave it to Peterson that year, and he didn't even break any records.

Considering they snubbed him that season, and he came back and did it again, adding 3 TD receptions and a pick six this time, I think its a no brainer but obviously the media is likely to see it a different way.


It wasn't. Watt was so much better against the run in that season compared to this season it isn't even funny. He was probably better this season from a pass rushing standpoint but it's close. The run game isn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill be honest, If i had a vote it wouldnt go to Watt for one simple reason, the texans didnt make the post season

I think that has to be a requirement for an MVP award unless the race just isnt even close
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Yea i kind of feel the same way.. if he hadn't missed that sack on Romo and we'd have found a way to win it'd be a no-brainer though.
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didn't he also have a blocked extra point earlier this year

edit: yes he did http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=400554256
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JJ Watt: IIRC only player to make All-Pro 1st & 2nd teams in the same season (1st team DE & 2nd team DT)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000452986/article/2014-allpro-teams

Possibly Ronnie Lott or Rod Woodson did as well?
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His likeness is also apparently indestructible.

www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24931210/jj-watt-poster-survives-texas-house-fire
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jch1911 wrote:
JJ Watt: IIRC only player to make All-Pro 1st & 2nd teams in the same season (1st team DE & 2nd team DT)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000452986/article/2014-allpro-teams

Possibly Ronnie Lott or Rod Woodson did as well?


Because 5 voters are retarded.

Basically he was a unanimous DE. (45 DE, 5 DT)
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