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lumberjackchris


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: 2015 NFL Draft Reply with quote

It's never to early to look ahead at the offseason's draft, and with college football in full swing we can start to gauge where some guys might go. Ill go with Matt Miller's big board he posted this week, because we just need something to go off of.

QB
1 Marcus Mariota Oregon 6'4" 212 rJr
2 Brett Hundley UCLA 6'3" 222 rJr
3 Jameis Winston Fl State 6'4" 228 rSo
4 Bryce Petty Baylor 6'2" 230 rSr
5 Sean Mannion Oregon St 6'4" 220 rSr
6 Kevin Hogan Stanford 6'4" 228 rJr
7 Gunner Kiel Cincinnati 6'4" 208 rSo
8 Taylor Kelly Arizona St 6'1" 204 rSr
9 Chuckie Keeton Utah St 6'1" 200 Sr
10 Braxton Miller Ohio St 6'1" 215 Sr

RB
1 Todd Gurley Georgia 6'1" 232 Jr
2 T.J. Yeldon Alabama 6'1" 218 Jr
3 Melvin Gordon Wisconsin 6'1" 207 rJr
4 Mike Davis S. Carolina 5'9" 215 Jr
5 Karlos Williams Florida St 6'1" 223 Sr
6 Ameer Abdullah Nebraska 5'9" 190 Sr
7 Malcolm Brown Texas 5'11" 225 Sr
8 Duke Johnson Miami 5'9" 196 Jr
9 Jay Ajayi Boise St 5'11" 220 rJr
10 Kenyan Drake Alabama 6'0" 202 Jr

WR
1 Amari Cooper Alabama 6'1" 205 Jr
2 Dorial Green-B Missouri* 6'5" 225 Jr
3 Nelson A. USC 6'0" 185 Jr
4 Ty Montgomery Stanford 6'2" 215 Sr
5 Rashad Greene Florida St 6'0" 180 Sr
6 DeVante Parker Louisville 6'2" 209 Sr
7 Jaelen Strong Arizona St 6'4" 205 rJr
8 Kasen Williams Wash. 6'2" 212 Sr
9 Christion Jones Alabama 5'11" 185 Sr
10 Tyler Lockett Kansas St 5'11" 175 Sr

TE
1 Nick O'Leary Florida State 6'3" 248 Sr
2 Ben Koyack Notre Dame 6'5" 261 Sr
3 Devin Funchess Michigan 6'5" 235 Jr
4 Rory Anderson South Carolina 6'5" 252 Sr
5 Pharaoh Brown Oregon 6'5" 241 Jr
6 E.J. Bibbs Iowa State 6'3" 252 Sr
7 Randall Telfer USC 6'4" 250 rSr
8 Clive Walford Miami (Fla.) 6'4" 259 rSr
9 C.J. Uzomah Auburn 6'3" 258 Sr
10 Jeff Heuerman Ohio State 6'5" 262 Sr

OT
1 Cedric Ogbuehi Texas A&M 6'5" 300 rSr
2 Brandon Scherff Iowa 6'5" 315 rSr
3 Andrus Peat Stanford 6'6" 312 Jr
4 Cameron Erving Florida State 6'5" 320 rSr
5 La'El Collins LSU 6'5" 315 Sr
6 Eric Lefeld Cincinnati 6'5" 309 rSr
7 Spencer Drango Baylor 6'5" 315 rJr
8 Daryl Williams Oklahoma 6'5" 321 rSr
9 Sean Hickey Syracuse 6'5" 291 rSr
10 Jake Fisher Oregon 6'5" 292 Sr

OG/C
1 Tre' Jackson Florida St 6'4" 330 Sr
2 Hroniss Grasu Oregon 6'5" 225 rSr
3 Laken Tom. Duke 6'3" 320 rSr
4 Reese Dismukes Auburn 6'2" 298 Sr
5 Arie Kouandjio Alabama 6'5" 315 rSr
6 B.J. Finney Kansas St 6'3" 303 rSr
7 A.J. Cann S. Car 6'3" 314 rSr
8 Shaquille Mason Georgia T. 6'1" 305 Sr
9 Malcolm Bunche UCLA 6'6" 327 rSr
10 Dallas Lewallen Wisconsin 6'5" 322 rSr

DE
1 Randy Gregory Nebraska 6'5" 255 Sr
2 Shawn Oakman Baylor 6'9" 275 Jr
3 Cedric Reed Texas 6'5" 258 Sr
4 Shilique Cal. Mich St 6'4" 250 rJr
5 Trey Flowers Arkansas 6'3" 262 Sr
6 Markus Golden Missouri 6'3" 260 rSr
7 Mario Edwards Florida St 6'4" 277 Jr
8 Tony Wash. Oregon 6'3" 243 rSr
9 Jeremiah Rasco LSU 6'2" 262 Sr
10 Noah Spence Ohio St 6'3" 252 Jr

DT
1 Michael Benn. Ohio St 6'3" 285 Sr
2 Leonard Will. USC 6'4" 290 Jr
3 Brandon Ivory Alabama 6'3" 310 Sr
4 Danny Shelton Wash. 6'1" 327 Sr
5 Carl Davis Iowa 6'4" 315 Sr
6 Arik Armstead Oregon 6'7" 292 Jr
7 Brandon Ivory Alabama 6'3" 310 rSr
8 Leon Orr Florida 6'4" 302 rSr
9 Christian Cov/ Rice 6'2" 295 Jr
10 Travis Raciti SJS 6'5" 290 rSr

OLB
1 Vic Beasley Clemson 6'2" 235 rSr
2 Dante Fowler Florida 6'3" 277 Jr
3 Benardrick McK Miss. St 6'5" 225 Jr
4 Jordan Jenkins Georgia 6'2" 246 Jr
5 Eric Striker Oklahoma 6'2" 215 Jr
6 Derrick Malone Oregon 6'2" 216 rSr
7 Ishaq Williams ND 6'5" 261 Sr
8 Jordan Hicks Texas 6'2" 238 rSr
9 Shaq Thompson Wash 6'2" 225 Jr
10 Xzavier Dickson Alabama 6'2" 265 Sr

ILB
1 Denzel Perryman Miami 6'0" 240 Sr
2 Trey DePriest Alabama 6'2" 245 Sr
3 Ramik Wilson Georgia 6'2" 232 Sr
4 A.J. Johnson Tenn 6'2" 243 Sr
5 Kris Frost Auburn 6'2" 238 rJr
6 Jabari Hunt-Days GT 6'2" 247 rJr
7 Eric Kendricks UCLA 6'0" 228 rSr
8 Bryce Hager Baylor 6'1" 235 rSr
9 A.J. Tarpley Stanford 6'2" 238 rSr
10 Amarlo Herrera Georgia 6'1" 244 Sr

CB
1 Ifo Ekpre-Olomu Oregon 5'10" 185 Sr
2 Quandre Diggs Texas 5'10" 200 Sr
3 Josh Shaw USC 6'1" 195 rSr
4 Kevin Johnson Wake For. 6'2" 215 rSr
5 Deshazor Everett aTm 6'0" 185 Sr
6 Wayne Lyons Stanford 6'1" 196 Sr
7 P.J. Williams Florida St 6'0" 190 Jr
8 Trae Waynes Mich St 6'1" 185 rJr
9 Jalen Collins LSU 6'1" 195 rJr
10 Steven Nelson Oregon St 5'10" 192 Sr

S
1 Landon Collins Alabama 6'0" 215 Jr
2 Jordan Richards Stanford 5'11" 208 Sr
3 Derron Smith Fresno St 5'11" 200 rSr
4 Kurtis Drum. Mich St 6'1" 200 rSr
5 Anthony Harris Virginia 6'1" 190 Sr
6 Karl Joseph West Vir. 5'11" 200 Jr
7 Ronald Martin LSU 6'1" 218 Sr
8 Cody Prewitt Ole Miss 6'2" 220 Sr
9 Sam Carter TCU 6'0" 215 rSr
10 Gerod Holliman Louisville 6'0" 202 Jr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I think our biggest need will QB, depending on how Mallet/Savage deveolp, and I don't see many QB hungry teams other than the Rams, Titans (possibly), Tampa, Arizona. I would rank our other needs as follows:

1) CB
2) DE
3) Nickel S

Although we don't have to depth, I don't think we have many glaring needs. This will allow us to go BPA, and start to develop our depth again.

A lot will depend on how we manage the aging vets and their large cap hits with Arian, and JJo
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB is our biggest need but I think our schedule may put us out of reach of good QB prospects.

If Cushing is not fully healthy we absolutely need to get an ILB early. There's been a lot of talk and player movement about slot WR so I expect us to grab one in the middle rounds. CB is tricky since it depends on what we do with Joseph and Jackson. And then at RT, do we keep the seat warm for Quessenberry or do we assume his career may be over?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dsorc wrote:
QB is our biggest need but I think our schedule may put us out of reach of good QB prospects.

If Cushing is not fully healthy we absolutely need to get an ILB early. There's been a lot of talk and player movement about slot WR so I expect us to grab one in the middle rounds. CB is tricky since it depends on what we do with Joseph and Jackson. And then at RT, do we keep the seat warm for Quessenberry or do we assume his career may be over?


Ya, it's going to be tricky since we front loaded JJ's deal. I know we have a lot of dead cap space coming off next year, but a 21 mil cap hit plus Arian's, JJo's, and Dre's is a lot 2 tie up in only a couple guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, QB is still the biggest need on this team, but it depends on how well Mallett does for us once he starts.

Other needs not in order.

ILB: Been lobbying for this position for 3 years now.

slot WR: The fact that Posey was inactive week 1 with a non injury makes me worry. Martin isnt a good slot WR and Johnson is purely a return man. We need to add better depth at the position.

CB (we need a nickle CB also)

RT: I think we cant wait on whether or not Quessenberry is OK or not. We have to address this position at all costs. This should be Newton's last year as the starter for us.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provided Mallett turns out to be the player we hope he'll be or at least close to it, I think we re-sign Mallet and he's our QB in 2015. I don't think he'll be terribly expensive, compared with other QB's in the league, since he's all potential and not much productivity over his career. I think it will be a short term deal, 2-3 yrs. as a chance for him to prove to us and the league that he's worthy of much more money. So for now I'm taking QB off my list of 2015 draft needs.

I think our biggest draft need will be CB because of JJo's expensive contract, injury history, and age. Also KJ will be a FA at the end of the season and thus he'll also be more expensive, and Bouye and Hal don't appear ready to be a #1 CB. CB's also take a year or so to adjust to the NFL so we need to prepare for the future. The alternative is getting some other expensive FA if we let JJo go, so I'd rather draft a CB in the 1st and keep him on a relatively cheap rookie contract for several years than to shop the expensive FA market. I think we also need a high quality center field FS, and believe this would really help our secondary as a whole not to mention anchoring the position for years to come instead of the revolving door we've had at FS for years. The 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds should be some quality O-line depth because I think Quessenberry's career is over, possibly slot WR depending on who develops for us this year, and RB of the future.

I think there could also be more cost cutting measures taken next year, Myers, JJo, Foster depending on guaranteed money issues, and possibly AJ also depending on guaranteed money issues.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad we were bad at the wrong time, Hack looks poised to be pick 1-1 in 2016
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? Hackenberg has not been good. He has poor footwork, throws off his back foot, one read QB, slow progressions, doesn't do a good job of anticipation, and poor decision making.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting Mariota is almost as bad as getting Manziel... I really don't like Mariota as a prospect for an NFL team and NFL system.

I like Jameis a lot, and I think he's improved mechanical issues he had last year and we could definitely use a guy that has the ability to run but doesn't need it since he's a really good pocket passer.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cole416 wrote:
Getting Mariota is almost as bad as getting Manziel... I really don't like Mariota as a prospect for an NFL team and NFL system.

I like Jameis a lot, and I think he's improved mechanical issues he had last year and we could definitely use a guy that has the ability to run but doesn't need it since he's a really good pocket passer.


I don't think you'll see Winston in a Texans jersey. To get him, you're going to need to be a top 3 pick, probably 1st and I don't think this schedule is going to allow that. Most of us have been predicting between 6 and 10 wins, just based off of the ease of the schedule. I just don't see it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winston is a mental midget who took forever to learn the playbook at FSU, and has Jamarcus Russell written all over him.

Mariotta is leaps and bounds ahead of Manziel, and has the size to take the pounding he will get in the NFL. He is Colin Kap 2.0, but not as reckless.

ILB is not a 1 round need as you can get guys later in the draft that turn into solid players.

CB,QB & RE should be the biggest needs for the Texans.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do you guys think about Sean Mannion? I admit I haven't watched him much because, well... I don't watch Oregon State games all that often, but looking at his stat lines and reading up on him, he seems like a solid pro-style pocket passer. Could anyone who's watched him more offer their opinion?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else think it's sad the Texans needs have been the same for the past two/three years? How is it we see it but the management doesn't?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggio7 wrote:
Anybody else think it's sad the Texans needs have been the same for the past two/three years? How is it we see it but the management doesn't?


Yep. Rick Smith hasnt hit on his picks enough for that to change. How long have we been lobbying for a NT until we picked Nix? Same with WR, until we got Hopkins. We been needing an ILB ever since we traded Ryans. We haven't addressed slot WR since I dont know when.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cole416 wrote:
Getting Mariota is almost as bad as getting Manziel... I really don't like Mariota as a prospect for an NFL team and NFL system.

I like Jameis a lot, and I think he's improved mechanical issues he had last year and we could definitely use a guy that has the ability to run but doesn't need it since he's a really good pocket passer.


Im opposite, I prefer Mariota over Winston. Winston will be a joke in the nfl, terrible accuracy and not very smart.
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