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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Few things.........Hate the Eagles draft. The only player I like that you have us taking is Joyner, and he isn't even draft eligible this year. He is a sophomore....Not sure why you have him in a mock. If we take EJ Manuel in the 2nd I'll shoot myself in the face. Also, we are not going corner in the first. DRC will probably be resigned, Nnamdi still has a few years left, and we have 3 other young corners who the coaches love.

Another big thing....Do you predict that Matt Barkley is going to die or something? I don't even see him going in any of the 3 rounds....Is that a joke?


Amerson can play both corner and projects as a safety.
Joyner is listed as a Junior on their site.
Manuel is better than what you have outside of a healthy Vick.
And no, not a joke, if you read outside of the OP, Barkley wasn't forgotten.
Lastly, why are you so mad, might want to get that checked out.


Where do I come off as "mad"? I think Barkley is a top 10 pick. I didn't even see his name in the entire mock.

I was just giving my opinion. I really don't like that Eagles draft and most other fans wouldn't either. It's not a huge fault on your part, it's not like you know everything about every team. Just giving my .02 cents.

Joyner is a sophomore. IDK what site you read but it's wrong which I don't understand. Manuel is better than Foles? How so? Manuel is an extremely poor man's Vick. No way we pick him in the first 2 rounds. Why would the FO want a player like him? He's a massive project and why would we invest a 2nd round pick in a guy like him, when we have Foles. Who just lit up the preseason and won the #2 job as a rookie. He is the future of this team.
Seminoles.com, ESPN, and Wikipedia list him as a junior. Think you're wrong on this one.


Yeah I was wrong. He's a junior. No idea why I thought for sure he was a sophomore....I think a friend of mine who is a big FSU fan said he was so I just went with it.

I like the Joyner pick a lot more now Smile . I'd love to have him on the Eagles.

Side note: I read that he was born in 1990.....yet he's a junior in college.....I was born in 1992 and I am a junior in college. Did he get held back or something?


Or he could be born in a weird month and couldn't start with the kids "his age." No idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be pleased if that was the Steelers draft. Solid picks throughout. The Steelers do need an ILB early I feel though. However, I can't complain with those selections if it went down like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still love this draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Woods at 17 , right on.. Nitpicking here but based on preferance id rather CJ Mosley at OLB over Brown, and not sure about TE, Scott Chandler is solid and underrated
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round One:
1. Cleveland Browns // Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas
2. Miami Dolphins // Barkevious Mingo, DE Louisiana State University
3. Indianapolis Colts // Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia
4. Buffalo Bills // Geno Smith, QB West Virginia
5. Carolina Panthers // Star Lotulelei, DT Utah
6. Oakland Raiders // Xavier Rhodes, CB Florida State University
7. Seattle Seahawks // Samuel Montgomery, DE/OLB Louisiana State University
8. Kansas City Chiefs // Matthew Barkley, QB Southern California
9. Philadelphia Eagles // Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M
10. St. Louis Rams // Keenan Allen, WR California
11. Cincinnati Bengals // Eric Reid, S Louisiana State University
12. Tennessee Titans // Barrett Jones, OL Alabama
13. New Orleans Saints // Manti TeO, MLB Notre Dame
14. Minnesota Vikings // Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State
15. Arizona Cardinals // Taylor Lewan, OT Michigan
16. San Diego Chargers // Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee
17. Jacksonville Jaguars // Dee Milliner, CB Alabama
18. Detroit Lions // Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
19. St. Louis Rams (from Washington) // Chance Warmack, OG Alabama
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // David Amerson, CB/S North Carolina State
21. New York Jets // Sean Porter, OLB Texas A&M
22. Pittsburgh Steelers // Andrew Jackson, ILB Western Kentucky
23. Dallas Cowboys // Jonathan Cooper, OG North Carolina
24. Chicago Bears // Bjoern Werner, DE Florida State University
25. Denver Broncos // Johnthan Banks, CB Mississippi State
26. New York Giants // Jake Matthews, OT Texas A&M
27. Houston Texans // Jesse Williams, DT Alabama
28. Green Bay Packers // Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame
29. New England Patriots // Robert Woods, WR Southern California
30. San Francisco 49ers // Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas
31. Baltimore Ravens // T.J. McDonald, S Southern California
32. Atlanta Falcons // C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE Iowa

Round Two:
33. Cleveland Browns // ** Browns forfeit pick for supplemental draft pick (Josh Gordon)**
34. Miami Dolphins // Aaron Dobson, WR Marshall
35. Miami Dolphins (from Indianapolis) // Justin Gilbert, CB Oklahoma State
36. Buffalo Bills // Aaron Mellette, WR Elon
37. Carolina Panthers // Terrance Williams, WR Baylor
38. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland) // Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois
39. Seattle Seahawks // Marquess Wilson, WR Washington State
40. Kansas City Chiefs // William Gholston, 5T Michigan State
41. Philadelphia Eagles // Tony Jefferson, S Oklahoma
42. St. Louis Rams // Dallas Thomas, OT Tennessee
43. Cincinnati Bengals // Knile Davis, RB Arkansas
44. Tennessee Titans // Jackson Jeffcoat, DE Texas
45. New Orleans Saints // ** Saints forfeit pick for Bountygate **
46. Minnesota Vikings // A.J. Klein, MLB Iowa State
47. Arizona Cardinals // Logan Thomas, QB Virginia Tech
48. San Diego Chargers // Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina
49. Jacksonville Jaguars // Dion Jordan, DE Oregon
50. Detroit Lions // Corey Lemonier, DE Auburn
51. Washington Redskins // Shayne Skov, ILB Stanford
52. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Kawann Short, DT Purdue
53. New York Jets // Montee Ball, RB Wisconsin
54. Pittsburgh Steelers // Logan Ryan, CB Rutgers
55. Dallas Cowboys // Michael Buchanan, OLB Illinois
56. Chicago Bears // Oday Aboushi, OT Virginia
57. Denver Broncos // Chris Borland, MLB Wisconsin
58. New York Giants // Larry Warford, OG Kentucky
59. Houston Texans // D.J. Fluker, OT Alabama
60. Green Bay Packers // Zac Stacy, RB Vanderbilt
61. New England Patriots // Carrington Byndom, CB Texas
62. San Francisco 49ers // Travis Frederick, OG Wisconsin
63. Baltimore Ravens // Alexander Ogletree, ILB Georgia
64. Atlanta Falcons // John Jenkins, DT Georgia

Round Three:
65. Cleveland Browns // James Gayle, DE Virginia Tech
66. Miami Dolphins // Chris Gragg, TE Arkansas
67. Indianapolis Colts // Micah Hyde, S Iowa
68. Buffalo Bills // Gerald Hodges, OLB Penn State
69. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) // Margus Hunt, 5T SMU
70. Oakland Raiders // Alex Okafor, DE Texas
71. Seattle Seahawks // Alvin Bailey, OG Arkansas
72. Kansas City Chiefs // Kevin Minter, ILB Louisiana State University
73. Philadelphia Eagles // Jordan Poyer, CB Oregon State
74. St. Louis Rams // Jonathan Brown, OLB Illinois
75. Cincinnati Bengals // John Simon, DE Ohio State
76. Tennessee Titans // Khaled Holmes, C Southern California
77. New Orleans Saints // Akeem Spence, DT Illinois
78. Minnesota Vikings // Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB Connecticut
79. Arizona Cardinals // Leon McFadden, CB San Diego State University
80. San Diego Chargers // Johnny Adams, CB Michigan State
81. Jacksonville Jaguars // Khaseem Greene, OLB Rutgers
82. Detroit Lions // B.W. Webb, CB William & Mary
83. Washington Redskins // Omoregie Uzzi, OG Georgia Tech
84. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Damontre Moore, DE Texas A&M
85. New York Jets // Phillip Lutzenkirchen, TE/FB Auburn
86. Pittsburgh Steelers // C.J. Mosley, OLB Alabama
87. Dallas Cowboys // Robert Lester, S Alabama
88. Miami Dolphins (from Chicago) // Lamarcus Joyner, S Florida State
89. Denver Broncos // Andre Ellington, RB Clemson
90. New York Giants // Kevin Reddick, MLB North Carolina
91. Houston Texans // Max Bullough, ILB Michigan State
92. Green Bay Packers // Cobi Hamilton, WR Arkansas
93. New England Patriots // Kwame Geathers, DT/DE Georgia
94. San Francisco 49ers // Kyle Fuller, CB Virginia Tech
95. Baltimore Ravens // Travis Swanson, C Arkansas
96. Atlanta Falcons // Jake Knott, OLB Iowa State

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
Round One:
3. Indianapolis Colts // Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia

Round Three:
67. Indianapolis Colts // Micah Hyde, S Iowa
71. Seattle Seahawks // Alvin Bailey, OG Arkansas

Love the Jones pick.
Hyde is a decent pick, and we always seem to find great players from Iowa (Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, Pat Angerer) but he would probably not be our pick there. Tons of great players still available, and Alvin Bailey would have to be the pick here.
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Tyler Wilson pick is silly.

I like Cleveland's 3rd round pick
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the Chiefs mock!

Barkley would be a good facilitator for our Offense and will finally be the Franchise QB we've been looking for. 2nd round would probably be the one I'd change as I don't like Gholston very much, but I can dig it. Maybe go after a safety like Tony Jefferson, or maybe grab Dion Jordan. John Jenkins could also be an option as huge athletic specimens are on the Chiefs radar. But again I could definitely live with Gholston.

Kevin Minter would be a great compliment next to DJ, can take on blocks well and cover the Receiver which is something we desperately need for our ILB.

Dwayne Bowe is likely leaving after this year, so finding a Top Wideout may end up being a priority. I'm hoping we can keep him around, but after QB finding a guy in the 2nd-3rd rounds may be needed. Especially if Baldwin doesn't start breaking out like we hope.
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Any 1st round that has Geno Smith is good in my books, Hodges is a good pick and has chance to start, and havent heard of that 2nd round WR.. Marquess Wilson would give that grade a "A"..

Good jobs addressing our needs with sold value
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
Tyler Wilson pick is silly.

I like Cleveland's 3rd round pick


I didn't like Weeden coming out. And gives Cleveland a Quarterback to actually develop while Weeden is starting.
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For the vikes, I think i prefer Justin Hunter in round 1 over Hankins. In that event I prefer Kawann Short over your round 2 selection. In round 3, give the vikes the best OG or MLB available.

I think going forward, the Vikings really need to get themselves a potential true #1 WR, to put Harvin in a better position to be utilized in the offense. A WR like Hunter will also be beneficial for Ponder's development.

I like Short a ton for the Vikes defense opposite of Letroy Guion, assuming Kevin Williams leaves via free agency.
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Holy hell!!! I'd cry tears of joy if this draft happened for the Titans. 2 interior lineman(including the best in the draft) and some1 to help in pass-rush.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds v1.1 9/13/12 Reply with quote

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16. San Diego Chargers // Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee

Luxury position... but special player. Really depends on how free agency pans out for us (with both starting CB's hitting the market and neither being worthy of the franchise tender, we're likely to go into this draft looking for someone who - if not a Day 1 starter - would be a projected starter within a year at the position). Picking in the 16 hole likely means another 8-8/no-playoffs year which means Adios Norvall, but likely keeps AJ Smith his job, so OT early won't be an option. It's really a choice between Milliner and Hunter here - the former is need and "safer,' the later is higher ceiling and semi-need (whether Malcom Floyd re-signs or not, Vincent Brown and Meachem can be capable starters, but neither is the sort that should make you pass on a Dwayne Bowe clone if you have the chance to grab one.
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48. San Diego Chargers // Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina

If AJ is still around this pick won't be an OL - unless Gaither just doesn't play the entire season (and even then that might be the straw to break AJ's no OL early back by having him take a guy in the 1st round - lest ownership and the fans set out to tar and feather him for real). Thing is... AJ doesn't draft OL from the ACC and Big East; check history, it just doesn't happen - Big 12, Big 10, SEC... that's 95% of where he goes for his OL. Then throw in that Williams is a straight RT at the pro's, if he doesn't have to kick in to guard, and there's literally no chance AJ would draft him this early (only time he's ever drafted an OL before the 3rd round is when filling an LOT void). If we're talking James Hurst, that's another story, but if Hurst comes out he may well be getting 1st round consideration.

Skov would be a possibility, dependent on how much progress Jonas Mouton shows this season as heir apparent to Takeo Spikes. With Shaun Phillips likely to leave via free agency, and if not him at the very least Antwan Barnes, Dion Jordan and Michael Buchanan (I know you have Jordan going to your Jags, but he'd get the nod over Buchanan given his experience already playing in a similar position at Oregon) at OLB are possibilities. Normally I'd say Logan Ryan merits consideration as well, but I flatly think the guy is overrated as a prospect - largely because he's a bit too much in the standard Rutgers DB mold (i.e. his stock gets bloated by the number of INT's he drags down, but his tackling isn't up to snuff and he lacks a physical presence in the game). I'd take Carrington Byndom over him in a heartbeat.

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80. San Diego Chargers // Johnny Adams, CB Michigan State

Yet to be seen if his stock gets him quite here - he's still a bit of a one year wonder and pretty slight. As corners go, I'm torn on Kyle Fuller (and yes, I just completely skipped over Webb because, while AJ can have a penchant for off-the-wall prospects, I don't believe I've ever seen him take a corner that wasn't from a major D1 program) - I love his tenacity and willingness to hit, but I worry that his long speed may limit him to being strictly a zone corner at the next level. Same program, but I can't remember if you had Antone Exum's name come up yet, but he'd be one worth rolling the dice on here given his upside. Or... you know... you could do me a solid and slide Leon McFadden one more pick later than you have him going...
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Out of all of the Lions drafts i've seen, this is the most accurate. Any draft where they ignore positions of weakness for BPA at positions that they are already deep at is very true to Lion draft day form. Also, the William & Mary corner is also very accurate, they try to fill those dyer needs with developmental players.
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Chiefer wrote:
Love the Chiefs mock!

Barkley would be a good facilitator for our Offense and will finally be the Franchise QB we've been looking for. 2nd round would probably be the one I'd change as I don't like Gholston very much, but I can dig it. Maybe go after a safety like Tony Jefferson, or maybe grab Dion Jordan. John Jenkins could also be an option as huge athletic specimens are on the Chiefs radar. But again I could definitely live with Gholston.

Kevin Minter would be a great compliment next to DJ, can take on blocks well and cover the Receiver which is something we desperately need for our ILB.

Dwayne Bowe is likely leaving after this year, so finding a Top Wideout may end up being a priority. I'm hoping we can keep him around, but after QB finding a guy in the 2nd-3rd rounds may be needed. Especially if Baldwin doesn't start breaking out like we hope.


Yeah I'm not sure the Chiefs go after Gholston, still have Bailey. RAC may be interested in him, with Dorsey and Tjax's contracts coming up. Skov is an option

In the 3rd.. Joyner or Lester or Fuller. Moore caught my eye, we do need some pass rush depth but not sure we could over look the secondary at that point
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