Looking Ahead: 2013 NFL Prospects Thread

nevermore · Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 5610 Location: Austria

My guess is Ozzie set him up so his draft stock would fall.
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diamondbull424 · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 10016 Location: Baltimore, MD

I still prefer Arthur Brown either way if we go ILB in te first round.
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coordinator0 · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 5873

I know we've talked safeties before but let's say Ed Reed isn't with the team next season because he either retires or signs somewhere else and the Ravens take a safety in the first round. Out of Eric Reid, Kenny Vaccaro, and David Amerson (projecting him to convert to FS) who would you want them to go after?

Generally I'm not a fan of CB-to-FS conversions but if there was ever a guy you wanted to do that with it's Amerson and he would be my pick to replace Reed. The other two just don't seem like a good fit next to Pollard. I want a true play-maker playing that position and Amerson might be the best at doing that in this draft. If you project him as a CB I wouldn't want Amerson in the first round but as a FS I'm all for it.

I like Elam too but I don't think he's a first round pick at the moment. Phillip Thomas and Baccari Rambo also interest me.

diamondbull424 · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 10016 Location: Baltimore, MD

I'd answer your question, but I don't like any of the prospects you listed as first rounders... Especially not Reid. He's just so ordinary IMO. No way either of these three are as good as Matt Elam... Maybe Amerson, but that's only because he's athletic and has ball skills. But so does Elam, yet he hits like a truck. Elam is going to be an instant Probowl safety at the next level. Reid I think is simply going to be a filler safety. A guy you plug into the safety position that is of enough quality to not be considered a bust, but not enough quality to actually be considered a good/great player. He's not an impact player. I wouldn't touch him in the draft at all. He just looks so ordinary. I didn't see impressive tackling ability, only solid. I didn't see a great playmaker- only decent. I didn't see great athleticism, just pretty good. His instincts were also only pretty good and not great to elite IMO. I'd pass on him.

Vacarro, IIRC (it's been awhile since I last saw his tape) has good athleticism, has very nice ball skills that impressed me, but couldn't lay the wood at all. He looked like Ed Reed- only his shoulder isn't hurt and he's supposed to be in his prime. He wouldn't be a bad option if he fell to us in the late 2nd, but I doubt it. He struck me as a guy too good to fall that far, but not good enough to be worth a first round selection. Unlike Reid, I'd actually like him in the draft.

Amerson, I need to look more at, I just remember him getting torched against Tennessee. I'd need to see some more of him before I'm comfortable with him.
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coordinator0 · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 5873

Amerson got torched quite often early in the season and I wouldn't take him if he would be put in a position to be playing a lot of man-coverage. In Reed's role though that shouldn't be much of a problem. His tackling would be my biggest worry.

aussie_raven77 · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 254

Just a question on Te'o for you guys, lets say he slips all the way down to us how would we all feel about drafting him? I mean he wasn't the most elite athlete which we really need in coverage, despite him making the second most picks in the country. He's been productive but his draft stock has been massively boosted by his intangibles and this story seems to have destroyed a lot of them, is he worth taking?

coordinator0 · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 5873

This story doesn't affect his on-field intangibles at all. That's still going to probably be his biggest strength. His off-field decision making is what's in question and we don't even know what really happened at this point. I would hope the Ravens take Te'o if by some miracle he's still on the board.

drd23 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:53 am Post subject:

In answer to c0's question on safeties, I don't think I'd want any of them at #29-32. Surely there'd be a better player that any of them that would still be able to contribute to this team (?Arthur Brown, Lane Johnson, Oday Aboushi, ?Kevin Minter, one of the OLB prospects etc).

Matt Elam is probably the best safety in this class, but like c0 I think he's more of a SS type that is able to be put into deep zone coverage rather than a true centerfielder that Bernard Pollard would better fit next to. Plus Elam's recklessness is a bit worrying given the trend away from big hits against receivers.

I'd only be comfortable taking one of Amerson, Reid or Vaccaro if we traded down to about pick 40
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santiagomn8 · Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 96

I think we need: (the first 3 rounds)
Safety
Inside linebacker
Pass rusher

The players we draft just depends on the order the board falls
If a great pass rusher falls we get them in the first or if a safety is bpa then draft him in the first but as long as we can address these 3 positions I think we will be the best off

DontTazeMeBro · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 20500 Location: 321

I say BPA not including QB, RB, TE, and I probably wouldn't go with a C either.
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Nucky · Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 267 Location: Gaithersburg, MD

I really don't understand why this Manti Teo story is such a big deal ? So he had a relationship with an online gf. Yea it is a little weird I really don't get why his draft stock should go down because of this. Maybe I'm missing something, I don't see why we should care other than to get a good laugh if you find it funny.

If he was your BPA I'd draft him regadless.
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