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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this


LEO is ideally in the 6'1" - 6'3" range. Not 6'6". And also, I never said that he was a bad prospect, I said he doesn't have a place on this defense. We just used last years 1st round pick on a replacement for Clemons, so we don't have room for another LEO, and I dont even think he projects as a LEO.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this


LEO is ideally in the 6'1" - 6'3" range. Not 6'6". And also, I never said that he was a bad prospect, I said he doesn't have a place on this defense. We just used last years 1st round pick on a replacement for Clemons, so we don't have room for another LEO, and I dont even think he projects as a LEO.


3 inches taller, but more athletic, longer arms and more speed. Just as good in stopping the run as well. Irvin can continue in his spell pass rusher role as he has 1) Proven to be effective there 2) Shown an inability to stop the run. Irvin is not ready ti okay LEO. I'd rather develop him where he is
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this
Laughing he hasn't played an NFL down and he hasn't been able to even stay above 235 most of his career. Plus I have no interest in spending a first round pick on the LEO position two years in a row.
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imani wrote:
chpjns15 wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this


LEO is ideally in the 6'1" - 6'3" range. Not 6'6". And also, I never said that he was a bad prospect, I said he doesn't have a place on this defense. We just used last years 1st round pick on a replacement for Clemons, so we don't have room for another LEO, and I dont even think he projects as a LEO.


3 inches taller, but more athletic, longer arms and more speed. Just as good in stopping the run as well. Irvin can continue in his spell pass rusher role as he has 1) Proven to be effective there 2) Shown an inability to stop the run. Irvin is not ready ti okay LEO. I'd rather develop him where he is


Pete and John didn't draft Irvin in the first round to only play on third downs. Whether Jordan is a fit or not in our scheme is irrelevant, as they will not draft two LEOs in the first round in consecutive years. I can only see us drafting Jordan if they decide to move Irvin to SLB and K.J. Wright to WLB, which is unlikely.

I am actually thinking about it more, and Jordan could play LEO for us on 1st and 2nd down, and then move to UT in passing situations, when Irvin comes onto the field as LEO. However, like I said above, it is unlikely Pete and John would do that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this
Laughing he hasn't played an NFL down and he hasn't been able to even stay above 235 most of his career. Plus I have no interest in spending a first round pick on the LEO position two years in a row.


Pretty sure he was talking about better meaurables, which would be true. Otherwise, not a chance
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I'll be paying close attention to Denard Robinson - I was thinking about this on my way home today. If he runs well and catches well - he might be a great value selection on Day 3. I'm not convinced he'll be a higher pick than that although the Combine has a way of depicting whether a guy is picked in Rounds 1-3 or not at all.

I know he's a big name and name recognition only goes so far but if he can truly convert to a WR think of all he could do for us! He'd have to run well, especially in the positional drills. At worst he's Armani Edwards which is too bad but at best he's Antwaan Randal-El and a great value pick. If he can play some snaps at WR, line up in the backfield and get some added value in the return game - that's a lot for a Day3 pick. Not to mention, he can serve as an emergency QB. I've always thought that it's better to have similar QBs as starter and back-up so the offense doesn't have to adjust too much. It might be smart to have an athletic QB that can run the pistol for a few plays if Wilson just has to come out for a series or two.

Anyway - that's what I thought about on my walk home today.
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SwiftTexan wrote:
I'll be paying close attention to Denard Robinson - I was thinking about this on my way home today. If he runs well and catches well - he might be a great value selection on Day 3. I'm not convinced he'll be a higher pick than that although the Combine has a way of depicting whether a guy is picked in Rounds 1-3 or not at all.

I know he's a big name and name recognition only goes so far but if he can truly convert to a WR think of all he could do for us! He'd have to run well, especially in the positional drills. At worst he's Armani Edwards which is too bad but at best he's Antwaan Randal-El and a great value pick. If he can play some snaps at WR, line up in the backfield and get some added value in the return game - that's a lot for a Day3 pick. Not to mention, he can serve as an emergency QB. I've always thought that it's better to have similar QBs as starter and back-up so the offense doesn't have to adjust too much. It might be smart to have an athletic QB that can run the pistol for a few plays if Wilson just has to come out for a series or two.

Anyway - that's what I thought about on my walk home today.
Thoughts?


Ive been saying all along I would like to grab him in one of the later rounds to come here and play WR and a little bit of change of pace Runningback. If runs/catches well at the combine id be all for taking him with a late round pick. Another one im interested in is Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathieu in the late rounds.
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klyon7634 wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
I'll be paying close attention to Denard Robinson - I was thinking about this on my way home today. If he runs well and catches well - he might be a great value selection on Day 3. I'm not convinced he'll be a higher pick than that although the Combine has a way of depicting whether a guy is picked in Rounds 1-3 or not at all.

I know he's a big name and name recognition only goes so far but if he can truly convert to a WR think of all he could do for us! He'd have to run well, especially in the positional drills. At worst he's Armani Edwards which is too bad but at best he's Antwaan Randal-El and a great value pick. If he can play some snaps at WR, line up in the backfield and get some added value in the return game - that's a lot for a Day3 pick. Not to mention, he can serve as an emergency QB. I've always thought that it's better to have similar QBs as starter and back-up so the offense doesn't have to adjust too much. It might be smart to have an athletic QB that can run the pistol for a few plays if Wilson just has to come out for a series or two.

Anyway - that's what I thought about on my walk home today.
Thoughts?


Ive been saying all along I would like to grab him in one of the later rounds to come here and play WR and a little bit of change of pace Runningback. If runs/catches well at the combine id be all for taking him with a late round pick. Another one im interested in is Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathieu in the late rounds.
Every team on here seems to be interested in Mathieu as a late rounder. I don't understand why everyone likes him but will take him so late.

I never liked the guy. Just a huge punk.
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SupeRG00F wrote:
klyon7634 wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
I'll be paying close attention to Denard Robinson - I was thinking about this on my way home today. If he runs well and catches well - he might be a great value selection on Day 3. I'm not convinced he'll be a higher pick than that although the Combine has a way of depicting whether a guy is picked in Rounds 1-3 or not at all.

I know he's a big name and name recognition only goes so far but if he can truly convert to a WR think of all he could do for us! He'd have to run well, especially in the positional drills. At worst he's Armani Edwards which is too bad but at best he's Antwaan Randal-El and a great value pick. If he can play some snaps at WR, line up in the backfield and get some added value in the return game - that's a lot for a Day3 pick. Not to mention, he can serve as an emergency QB. I've always thought that it's better to have similar QBs as starter and back-up so the offense doesn't have to adjust too much. It might be smart to have an athletic QB that can run the pistol for a few plays if Wilson just has to come out for a series or two.

Anyway - that's what I thought about on my walk home today.
Thoughts?


Ive been saying all along I would like to grab him in one of the later rounds to come here and play WR and a little bit of change of pace Runningback. If runs/catches well at the combine id be all for taking him with a late round pick. Another one im interested in is Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathieu in the late rounds.
Every team on here seems to be interested in Mathieu as a late rounder. I don't understand why everyone likes him but will take him so late.

I never liked the guy. Just a huge punk.


On paper I only like him because he would be the perfect nickel corner for our scheme. He is physical as all hell and is great against the run.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Will be paying a lot of attention to Dion Jordan this weekend. Really hope we have a chance at him in the first round
I don't. I have no idea what role he'd play on this team.


He's a better version of chris clemons. I dont know how you dont see this
Laughing he hasn't played an NFL down and he hasn't been able to even stay above 235 most of his career. Plus I have no interest in spending a first round pick on the LEO position two years in a row.


It doesnt matter. He's a better athlete coming out than clemons, and is more skilled and polished than irvin. Chris is gone in a year or two and we need a replacement now, not last minute. Bruce is looking more like a specialist than a LEO and cannot stop the run. You can move Jordan around on the dline, but he has the ability to be an every down LEO. Makes too much sense IMO
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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I know we won't be taking a QB early, but I think it's completely idiotic by Matt Barkley to not throw. His stock has only fallen more, unless he shows up well at his Pro Day. I've seen him as a 2nd round pick now.
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Here are the Seahawks 2013 free agents:

Alan Branch Defensive Tackle UFA
Deon Butler Wide Receiver RFA
Patrick Chukwurah Defensive End UFA
Clint Gresham Long Snapper UFA
Steven Hauschka Kicker UFA
Leroy Hill Linebacker UFA
Jason Jones Defensive Tackle UFA
Ryan Longwell Kicker UFA
Chris Maragos Safety RFA
Clinton McDonald Defensive Tackle RFA
Cameron Morrah Tight End UFA

Frank Omiyale Offensive Tackle UFA
Marcus Trufant Cornerback UFA


Who comes back?


I'd like to see the bold return
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Pretty confident we'll see Branch, Gresham, Hauscka, and McDonald again next year. Omiyale and Maragos probably.
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I think tru has another year left
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I could see Jason Jones being released unless Dan Quinn takes a particular liking to him.
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