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McKinnie's agent said "Bryant really wanted to remain a Raven" and wanted to stay with "a winning team" thus lowered salary ...
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Nooooooooooo!!!!
I was so happy when I heard this news. Not necessarily because I have anything against McKinnie, but I thought Oher and KO/Reid would have made for a much better tackle rotation.
Eh, if this event has shown us anything though, it is that the organization does see McKinnie as an expendable player. And if he does under-perform in anyway, they won't hesitate to give him the boot.
Hopefully, after all this, we actually see a highly motivated McKinnie this season.
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And thus why I didn't want to get too excited...  |
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Integrity
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Thread title should be changed. 
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| Integrity wrote: | | Thread title should be changed. |
I changed the thread title do I get a gold star now? |
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SnA ExclusiVe
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As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option.
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| SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option. |
If nothing else we need the depth I mean do we really want Harewood as our first Tackle off the bench. I mean I liked the potential of Jah Reid but Ive never got to see him play, and at this point I wonder if he will ever get healthy |
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| bmorecareful wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option. |
If nothing else we need the depth I mean do we really want Harewood as our first Tackle off the bench. I mean I liked the potential of Jah Reid but Ive never got to see him play, and at this point I wonder if he will ever get healthy |
I missed the drama, but I'm happy with the way that it was resolved- with McKinnie being back. The depth is simply infinitesmally better WITH McKinnie than without... also the ability of the Ravens to restructure his deal makes it better just in case of the posibility that at a later time in the season we decide to reduce McKinnie's role from "starter" to "backup"...
Other then that, I have to wonder why else the Ravens would want to reduce McKinnie's salary. They are about $4m under the salary cap and still have the extra $1.5m that they could borrow from a future cap- if they wanted- so I wonder exactly why they would need an extra $1.5m or so. I doubt the new safety could've cost more than the minimum. Could Flacco's deal really need THAT much space? Or are we preparing to sign or trade for some sort of pass rusher and need the extra cash roll? It just seems like this was a "funny" time to go about this situation.
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| diamondbull424 wrote: | | bmorecareful wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option. |
If nothing else we need the depth I mean do we really want Harewood as our first Tackle off the bench. I mean I liked the potential of Jah Reid but Ive never got to see him play, and at this point I wonder if he will ever get healthy |
I missed the drama, but I'm happy with the way that it was resolved- with McKinnie being back. The depth is simply infinitesmally better WITH McKinnie than without... also the ability of the Ravens to restructure his deal makes it better just in case of the posibility that at a later time in the season we decide to reduce McKinnie's role from "starter" to "backup"...
Other then that, I have to wonder why else the Ravens would want to reduce McKinnie's salary. They are about $4m under the salary cap and still have the extra $1.5m that they could borrow from a future cap- if they wanted- so I wonder exactly why they would need an extra $1.5m or so. I doubt the new safety could've cost more than the minimum. Could Flacco's deal really need THAT much space? Or are we preparing to sign or trade for some sort of pass rusher and need the extra cash roll? It just seems like this was a "funny" time to go about this situation. |
I believe something is brewing whether it be Flaccos deal or a trade of some sort or a release thats on the way from another team that creates a free agent worth bidding on. I find it hard to believe we are just cutting cost for the sake of cutting cost |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| FlaccoForever wrote: | | Integrity wrote: | | Thread title should be changed. |
I changed the thread title do I get a gold star now? |
One gold star for you sir!
| diamondbull424 wrote: | | bmorecareful wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option. |
If nothing else we need the depth I mean do we really want Harewood as our first Tackle off the bench. I mean I liked the potential of Jah Reid but Ive never got to see him play, and at this point I wonder if he will ever get healthy |
I missed the drama, but I'm happy with the way that it was resolved- with McKinnie being back. The depth is simply infinitesmally better WITH McKinnie than without... also the ability of the Ravens to restructure his deal makes it better just in case of the posibility that at a later time in the season we decide to reduce McKinnie's role from "starter" to "backup"...
Other then that, I have to wonder why else the Ravens would want to reduce McKinnie's salary. They are about $4m under the salary cap and still have the extra $1.5m that they could borrow from a future cap- if they wanted- so I wonder exactly why they would need an extra $1.5m or so. I doubt the new safety could've cost more than the minimum. Could Flacco's deal really need THAT much space? Or are we preparing to sign or trade for some sort of pass rusher and need the extra cash roll? It just seems like this was a "funny" time to go about this situation. |
The NFL's waiver deadline was today at 4pm. The Ravens front office would not have been able to restructure McKinnie's contract without the threat of releasing him.
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| Integrity wrote: | | diamondbull424 wrote: | | bmorecareful wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | As McKinnie's agent put it: "The Ravens are a better team with him than without him" and I think that's true.
KO is a good future offensive tackle, but for now I trust McKinnie more than I trust him, and I trust Oher more on the right side than on the left.
Now, if McKinnie starts struggling and can't keep up, we have to just go with our future plan early and cut ties with McKinnie, which I also have no problem with but for now, this is our best option. |
If nothing else we need the depth I mean do we really want Harewood as our first Tackle off the bench. I mean I liked the potential of Jah Reid but Ive never got to see him play, and at this point I wonder if he will ever get healthy |
I missed the drama, but I'm happy with the way that it was resolved- with McKinnie being back. The depth is simply infinitesmally better WITH McKinnie than without... also the ability of the Ravens to restructure his deal makes it better just in case of the posibility that at a later time in the season we decide to reduce McKinnie's role from "starter" to "backup"...
Other then that, I have to wonder why else the Ravens would want to reduce McKinnie's salary. They are about $4m under the salary cap and still have the extra $1.5m that they could borrow from a future cap- if they wanted- so I wonder exactly why they would need an extra $1.5m or so. I doubt the new safety could've cost more than the minimum. Could Flacco's deal really need THAT much space? Or are we preparing to sign or trade for some sort of pass rusher and need the extra cash roll? It just seems like this was a "funny" time to go about this situation. |
The NFL's waiver deadline was today at 4pm. The Ravens front office would not have been able to restructure McKinnie's contract without the threat of releasing him. |
I wasn't referring to the deadline, I was referring to this point in the process. McKinnie said being called into the office about his contract was "out of left field" and there weren't any prior talks of the front office looking to restructure McKinnie's deal. So why all of a sudden did the Ravens decide that a day before the deadline and after the preseason (where if we were to cut McKinnie we would've had more time to work the Oher/KO starting lineup) did we decide to approach McKinnie with this contract issue? I mean, what changed to spell this on at the last minute?
Was this simply some sort of Ninja-Jedi Mind trick to make McKinnie feel welcomed and then ask him for a paycut or release at the last minute because they thought it was there best strategy in getting him to resign with the team (as in, he might be more comfortable moving to another team with more preseason time to get acclimated with that squad).
So either it was a planned strategy all along (which I wouldn't put past the front office) OR something unexpectedly changed to spur this on from a financial perspective. The team knew about the rule of 51 and their financial position, so I don't think that would be it. So if it's financially motivated, I can only think Flacco's negotiations are getting close and we just need a few extra million to get a deal done... or we're getting some extra cash in gear to throw at a veteran OLB.
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| Before the deadline today the Ravens had a nice chunk of space under the cap but after that the Rule of 51 isn't in effect anymore and their cap space takes a hit. The guys on IR and the PUP list now count against the cap as well as two more on the active roster. That's about the only explanation I can come up with. They knew about the Rule of 51 but they still had to do something about it regardless. |
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Great ploy by the front office. Had they approached him earlier, he would have said no, got cut and moved on. By waiting this long, he had no other real options. Ownership beats the player.....again.
Just hope that he isn't disgruntled on the field.
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| INbengalfan wrote: | Great ploy by the front office. Had they approached him earlier, he would have said no, got cut and moved on. By waiting this long, he had no other real options. Ownership beats the player.....again.
Just hope that he isn't disgruntled on the field. |
Maybe I don't understand an aspect of it, but I don't see how it's any sort of "ploy". If they approached him earlier, I'm not sure there would have been any different of a result, granted probably took longer because the deadline wasn't looming. Either way, if we approach him about a paycut and he wants nothing of it, he'd be cut. Whether we would have cut him sooner rather than later, I don't think it'd have really impacted his chances of finding a team necessarily.
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | INbengalfan wrote: | Great ploy by the front office. Had they approached him earlier, he would have said no, got cut and moved on. By waiting this long, he had no other real options. Ownership beats the player.....again.
Just hope that he isn't disgruntled on the field. |
Maybe I don't understand an aspect of it, but I don't see how it's any sort of "ploy". If they approached him earlier, I'm not sure there would have been any different of a result, granted probably took longer because the deadline wasn't looming. Either way, if we approach him about a paycut and he wants nothing of it, he'd be cut. Whether we would have cut him sooner rather than later, I don't think it'd have really impacted his chances of finding a team necessarily. |
Mostly the time involved. if that happened, say, six weeks ago, he could have taken his chances and signed elsewhere. Now he can't. Teams are settled, the lines are somewhat cohesive. Another team taking him now would wreak havoc on the opening day offenseive line. Since noone would pay big $ now, he faces a paycut vs. no job at all.
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