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 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: Horton On Fleming: "I Need Him To Grow Up" |
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Rookie cornerback Jamell Fleming, however, is apparently in a totally different place. The third-round pick was a healthy scratch last week, and Horton said after Fleming was excellent early in the season (most notably in New England) his play fell off and thus, so did his playing time.
“I need him to grow-up, mature and be professional and in my opinion he’s not at that point yet,” Horton said bluntly. “He came in and was very productive, very productive in the New England game. I think he had a sense of lull or complacency. I talked to him about that. I think he probably thought, ‘There is nothing to this league, I don’t have to prepare, I don’t have to study, I don’t have to challenge myself.’ And you really do, every day, or you get run by.”
Fleming said his reaction was just to do what Horton said
http://blog.azcardinals.com/2012/12/14/horton-doesnt-want-to-forget-seattle-and-flemings-struggle/
Talk about an eye opener. Thoughts on this revelation guys?
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Horton On Fleming: "I Need Him To Grow Up" |
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| stchamp98 wrote: | Rookie cornerback Jamell Fleming, however, is apparently in a totally different place. The third-round pick was a healthy scratch last week, and Horton said after Fleming was excellent early in the season (most notably in New England) his play fell off and thus, so did his playing time.
“I need him to grow-up, mature and be professional and in my opinion he’s not at that point yet,” Horton said bluntly. “He came in and was very productive, very productive in the New England game. I think he had a sense of lull or complacency. I talked to him about that. I think he probably thought, ‘There is nothing to this league, I don’t have to prepare, I don’t have to study, I don’t have to challenge myself.’ And you really do, every day, or you get run by.”
Fleming said his reaction was just to do what Horton said
http://blog.azcardinals.com/2012/12/14/horton-doesnt-want-to-forget-seattle-and-flemings-struggle/
Talk about an eye opener. Thoughts on this revelation guys? |
That Fleming needs to spend his off season with Patrick Peterson. Horton doesn't mess around. The guy was a third round pick and needs to be ready to take over opposite PP next year.
Our depth will be tested with MA and Toler likely gone.
Gay, Fleming Peterson.
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younggun1273
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Ugggggghhhhhh....
"Fleming said his reaction was just to do what Horton said. Asked if he too thought he had become complacent, Fleming said “You could say that. I don’t know if I would say that myself, but something like that.”
That is disappointing to hear. The opposite of this is Bobbie Massie who was complacent at the beginning of the season, but after getting worked over in his first few games saw the need to actually prepare and study his opponent and is now doing better. That is what we need Fleming to do, especially since he has the ability to a legitimate starter for us.
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I was afraid of this. Doesn't really sound like he is taking responsibility for this, yet. He's young and can certainly take this and make it into something very positive. Being taken under PP's wing certainly couldn't hurt.
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| HighMotorGuy wrote: | | This sounds like a future head coach |
He will be barring a 2-1 finish...
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stchamp98
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Horton On Fleming: "I Need Him To Grow Up" |
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| JohnnyV wrote: | | stchamp98 wrote: | Rookie cornerback Jamell Fleming, however, is apparently in a totally different place. The third-round pick was a healthy scratch last week, and Horton said after Fleming was excellent early in the season (most notably in New England) his play fell off and thus, so did his playing time.
“I need him to grow-up, mature and be professional and in my opinion he’s not at that point yet,” Horton said bluntly. “He came in and was very productive, very productive in the New England game. I think he had a sense of lull or complacency. I talked to him about that. I think he probably thought, ‘There is nothing to this league, I don’t have to prepare, I don’t have to study, I don’t have to challenge myself.’ And you really do, every day, or you get run by.”
Fleming said his reaction was just to do what Horton said
http://blog.azcardinals.com/2012/12/14/horton-doesnt-want-to-forget-seattle-and-flemings-struggle/
Talk about an eye opener. Thoughts on this revelation guys? |
That Fleming needs to spend his off season with Patrick Peterson. Horton doesn't mess around. The guy was a third round pick and needs to be ready to take over opposite PP next year.
Our depth will be tested with MA and Toler likely gone.
Gay, Fleming Peterson. |
Bolded: Justin Bethel.
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| HighMotorGuy wrote: | | This sounds like a future head coach |
Eh. This is just Horton's way, did the same thing last year to AJ Jefferson. Speaking of which, we shipped AJ out...
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| stchamp98 wrote: | | HighMotorGuy wrote: | | This sounds like a future head coach |
Eh. This is just Horton's way, did the same thing last year to AJ Jefferson. Speaking of which, we shipped AJ out... |
In all fairness, it was either him or Toler, and Toler isn't known to be a knucklehead.
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