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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.


Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyV wrote:
khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.


Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?


I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.



Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?


I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available.


Agreed. However, with the way things are going, I think a top 10 pick is inevitable.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyV wrote:
khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.



Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?


I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available.


Agreed. However, with the way things are going, I think a top 10 pick is inevitable.


I'd say with the way we're playing and our remaining schedule, we're a lock for the top 8.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
khodder wrote:
JohnnyV wrote:
Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)


You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.

Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.


Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?


I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available.


You don't think Barkley will go top 5? I know he hasn't been spectular this year but I'd take him #5 without hesitation and I don't even love him as a prospect. I think he'll be a franchise QB though. Already a 4 year starter in college and a pro style offense.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barkley will go high, teams reach on QBs, see Gabbert.

I am keen for Jones should he fall, back and all
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking...


I would say yes but Jones isn't near the pass rusher Miller is IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true Champ

Still both quality players who can dominate games, never have enough of those on your team.
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stchamp98 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking...


I would say yes but Jones isn't near the pass rusher Miller is IMO.


Miller was the best pass rusher maybe of the last decade. His burst coming out was incredible.
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DJ_Fka wrote:
That is true Champ

Still both quality players who can dominate games, never have enough of those on your team.


Bolded: Absolutely. We'd be lucky to have a guy like Jones, if the whole spinal stenosis thing checks out.
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Was anyone else watching Arkansas-USC right now? DJ Swearinger committed two personal fouls for 15 yards than intercepts the ball for a TD, than he gets another personal foul for unsportsmanlike conduct for another 15 yards. That was amazing haha.
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Wow, A&M jumps out to an early 14-0 lead.
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