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Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think)
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| JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster.
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JohnnyV
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| khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster. |
Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense?
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| JohnnyV wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster. |
Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense? |
I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available.
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JohnnyV
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| khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster. |
Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense? |
I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available. |
Agreed. However, with the way things are going, I think a top 10 pick is inevitable.
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| JohnnyV wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster. |
Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense? |
I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available. |
Agreed. However, with the way things are going, I think a top 10 pick is inevitable. |
I'd say with the way we're playing and our remaining schedule, we're a lock for the top 8.
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| khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | JohnnyV wrote: | | Also, to kind of add on to that, Champ is it too early to start a 2013 QB prospects thread? Just to kind of condence that material, because honestly I don't know a lot about this year's crop other than Geno and Barkley, neither of whom will be Cardinals. (you'd have to think) |
You don't really want to go much further. I like Dysert and Nassib, but neither of those guys are top quality prospects. I really like Tyler Wilson, but there are the head injury issues.
Outside of those five really there is not much point spending a draft pick on someone who is not better than what we already have on the roster. |
Would you stick with Kolb then and build up the offensive line and continue to improve the defense? |
I don't really know right now. I know the offensive line needs work but if we are picking at say 14-18 I would have a tough time passing on a Wilson (Pending medical reports) and a Barkley were they available. |
You don't think Barkley will go top 5? I know he hasn't been spectular this year but I'd take him #5 without hesitation and I don't even love him as a prospect. I think he'll be a franchise QB though. Already a 4 year starter in college and a pro style offense.
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Barkley will go high, teams reach on QBs, see Gabbert.
I am keen for Jones should he fall, back and all |
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If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking...
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stchamp98
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| DirtyDez wrote: | | If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking... |
I would say yes but Jones isn't near the pass rusher Miller is IMO.
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DJ_Fka
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That is true Champ
Still both quality players who can dominate games, never have enough of those on your team. |
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JohnnyV
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| stchamp98 wrote: | | DirtyDez wrote: | | If you take away pass rushing is Jarvis Jones better than Von Miller? Is he a more complete player is what I'm asking... |
I would say yes but Jones isn't near the pass rusher Miller is IMO. |
Miller was the best pass rusher maybe of the last decade. His burst coming out was incredible.
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stchamp98
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| DJ_Fka wrote: | That is true Champ
Still both quality players who can dominate games, never have enough of those on your team. |
Bolded: Absolutely. We'd be lucky to have a guy like Jones, if the whole spinal stenosis thing checks out.
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Was anyone else watching Arkansas-USC right now? DJ Swearinger committed two personal fouls for 15 yards than intercepts the ball for a TD, than he gets another personal foul for unsportsmanlike conduct for another 15 yards. That was amazing haha.
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Wow, A&M jumps out to an early 14-0 lead.
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