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ChiCity
Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: Why did we draft Shea? |
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Ok, so I understand that this is a reach BUT
If Lovie didnt workout do you think that Emery would want a 3-4 guy and Shea would be one of his first players in the transition? Could also explain the lack of ext for Brian? _________________ <a><img></a> |
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CBears019 
Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 14765 Location: Iowa City, IA
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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We drafed him because we need to improve our pass rush. Izzy and Peppers are old, and Wootton is always getting injured. Emery must have thought that Shea was the best pass rusher available at #19, better than Nick Perry.
Emery has to build the team for NOW, he can't be adding pieces in the event that the team does horribly and Lovie gets fired and they hire a coach who is in favor of the 3-4. Too many hypotheticals there.
The Urlacher situation will be worked out, most likely next offseason. Don't read too far into it. _________________ Martellus Bennet highlight video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lP8fHN53t0 |
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ChicagoAl
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 7062
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Why did we draft Shea? |
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| ChiCity wrote: | Ok, so I understand that this is a reach BUT
If Lovie didnt workout do you think that Emery would want a 3-4 guy and Shea would be one of his first players in the transition? Could also explain the lack of ext for Brian? | Has nothing to do with any extension. Urlacher is getting up there and his legs are not in great shape. He may not last another couple of years. THAT is why he is not being extended. |
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Madmike90 
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 18563 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Emery isn’t thinking about winning down the road…he is thinking about winning now…he has proven that by being aggressive in the offseason and finding us the pieces to do just that…Emery would be happy to keep Lovie for as long as Lovie keeps winning…
Emery has never said he has a preference towards the 3-4 D…yes he was a scout for KC & NE and they used the 3-4 D…but he was also a scout for Atlanta who have been a 4-3 D…Emery will draft for either…
McClellin was drafted to be a Dlinemen…I highly doubt we will ever see him at LB unless he is very ineffective as a DE…and I don’t see that happening given his skill set...Emery has already stated that they won't look to extend Urlacher until the offseason and Urlacher has said he would like to try FA for the first time in his career...there is no rush on either side. |
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Bowler1215
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 5176 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Emery and the scouts saw something in McClellin that they liked over the other guys we could have had(Chandler, Rieff, DeCastro are the other guys I would have liked us draft) I'll give Emery the benefit of the doubt and see what McClellin does. _________________ Adopt a Bear:
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GRRLacher 


 Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 20640 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Why did we draft Shea? |
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| ChiCity wrote: | Ok, so I understand that this is a reach BUT
If Lovie didnt workout do you think that Emery would want a 3-4 guy and Shea would be one of his first players in the transition? Could also explain the lack of ext for Brian? |
It is not Emory's job to decide what type of offense or defense we run...it is up to him to provide the head coach with the best possible talent for the scheme the coach is running.
And remember that even if we were top have a bad season and Emory wanted to get rid of Lovie and get another coach the owners would have to approve of that...Emory doesn't have ultimate power in deciding if Lovie stays or goes. _________________
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51to54
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 1529
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Shea's my biggest rookie concern now as he hasn't had many good reviews so far and as noted, we passed on three other high profile DE's that were picked just a few picks after him.
Jeffery sounds good right now so that helps offset Shea a slight bit.
Urlacher, who I wanted to draft, should not be re-signed now unless he's interested in a large salary cut to avoid the FA hassle and to be sure to retire a Bear.
Let's hope that Shea doesn't become Emery's Chris Williams, a first round draft pick still trying to find a position he can play after a few years in the NFL. Utility Olineman isn't a position, it's a role. |
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TexasBearsFan 
Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 1142 Location: Waco, TX
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well, everyone knew that Shea was gonna be raw and it would take a while to develop him into a pass-rusher like we need. He needs to build his strength while keeping his speed, which is excellent. I see him as a situational pass-rusher this year and with a full offseason of conditioning and strength training, to be much improved by next season. _________________
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IronMike84 
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure there was an identical thread last year about the Bears drafting Stephen Paea to make a 3-4 switch... as well as Jarron Gilbert and Marcus Harrison in previous years...
Short answer: no. If I say anything more, it may sound mean.
PS, basically all pass rushers get tagged as a "3-4 linebacker" pre-draft these days. If it actually meant anything, the entire league would be playing 3-4. |
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Mudderfudder77
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Its pretty funny actually - Shea has had a bit of a rough time converting to DE and playing with his hand on the ground. While another board favorite - Nick Perry - has had a difficult time in GB training camp making the transition from DE to OLB and playing in space.
*It should be noted that I was not a Nick Perry fan. _________________
2013 Draft - Go TE or go home. Yes, TE, even after signing Bennett. Vance McDonald is your huckleberry. |
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ChicagoAl
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 7062
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Why did we draft Shea? |
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| GRRLacher wrote: | | ChiCity wrote: | Ok, so I understand that this is a reach BUT
If Lovie didnt workout do you think that Emery would want a 3-4 guy and Shea would be one of his first players in the transition? Could also explain the lack of ext for Brian? |
It is not Emory's job to decide what type of offense or defense we run...it is up to him to provide the head coach with the best possible talent for the scheme the coach is running.
And remember that even if we were top have a bad season and Emory wanted to get rid of Lovie and get another coach the owners would have to approve of that...Emory doesn't have ultimate power in deciding if Lovie stays or goes. | He does after this season. |
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Madmike90 
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 18563 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Via Jensen...
| Quote: | #Bears GM Phil Emery told me during training camp that @SheaMcClellin is being developed to be a pass rusher &and a "full-time starter."
"He has things he has to work on, like all the players do, and because of his work ethic and who he is and his instincts, we see him being able to fulfill those expectations," Emery said. "So we’re not thinking linebacker.” |
| Quote: | | So how does @SheaMcClellin feel about #Bears having him focus on D-End? “That’s what I love to do, just rush the passer,” McClellin said. “So I’m thankful for that. I enjoy it.” |
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jspiel24 
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm not an expert, but probably to play football. _________________
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kurzickchris
Joined: 27 Apr 2012 Posts: 31
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| we should have taken David Decastro. |
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GOGRIESE 
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 14638 Location: Use to live in Chicago Now Im in Austin Texas
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