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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He may have had less impact on the NFL over his entire career, but I'll take what he gave Seattle over what Tapp gave. Doesn't really matter either way considering this is a new regime.


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Laughing Not what I meant, of course I appreciate that Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boulware was hit and miss, but he wasn't that bad. I always liked the guy. He's havea good deal of success in the role Kam plays
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boulware was hit and miss, but he wasn't that bad. I always liked the guy. He's havea good deal of success in the role Kam plays


He's bad for the second round. In general, solid depth, ok starter in a pinch. No matter, we've been pretty good with second round picks...even with ruskell
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I agree that bulwark would excell in kams role. It would allow us to move kam to linebacker as well
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/2013/4/14/4184726/nfl-draft-2013-seahawks-sleepers-rb-fb-latavius-murray

Want him Bad!!!!!

He has everything you look for in a RB and could be a great 3rd RB for us and maybe develop into more.

and I played against him in High School Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much overdue. Some reports slightly more detailed than others.


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QB Scoring Key
1. Footwork (10)
2. Mobility (10)
3. Throwing On The Run /Improvisation (10)
4. Release(10)
5. Size/Hands (10)
6. Deep Ball(10)
7. Zip(10)
8. Anticipation(10)
9. Intangibles(10)
10. Accuracy(15)
11. Progressions(15)
12.Potential(15)
13. Pressure(15)
Total: 150


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QB Scoring Projections
150-140 = Top 10 pick
139-126 = Top 20 pick
125-118 = Late 1st/Early 2nd
117-111 = Mid 2nd
110-105 = Late 2nd/Early 3rd
104-99 = Mid 3rd
98-93 = Late 3rd/Early 4th
92-87 = Mid 4th
86-81 = Late 4th/Early 5th
80-75 = Mid 5th
74-69 = Late 5th/Early 6th
68-63 = Mid/Late 6th
62-57 = 7th
<57 = Undrafted


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1. Geno Smith, West Virginia (22)
+ Great size / Mobile in the pocket / Quick release / Good deep ball accuracy / Responds well to pressure
- Underneath thrower / Few difficult throws / Rarely throws man open / Little experience under center / Mediocre ball velocity
Comparison: (+)Alex Smith
Score: 126/150

2. Matt Scott, Arizona (22)
+ Effortless throwing motion / Ability to run / Calm under pressure / Good zip / Good touch / Good accuracy on the run / Can hit all spots
- Tiny build / Spotty decision making regardless of pressure / Spotty accuracy at times, though much due to receivers / Low release for short person / Poor improv / Inconsistent under pressure
Comparison: (+)Seneca Wallace
Score: 110/150

3. EJ Manuel, Florida State (23)
+Prototypical size / Ability to run / Keeps ball high and tight / Quick release / Accurate on the run / Deceptive play action
- Spotty decision maker / Low release / Spotty accuracy at all times / Struggles through progressions / Often throws off wrong foot / Ball tends to sail / Below average anticipation
Comparison: Vince Young
Score: 109/150

4. Matt Barkley, Southern Cal (22)
+ Great deep ball accuracy / Understands coverage / Consistent decision maker / Relatively quick release / NFL offense under center / Freedom to make line calls / Underrated short zip
- Unathletic in the pocket / Poor velocity to all areas / Short stature / Overestimates arm with risks
Comparison: Chad Pennington
Score: 103/107

5. Sean Renfree, Duke(23)
+ Good size @ 63,220 / Low, moderate quick release / Good touch,accuracy on deep ball / Good ball placement / Smart decision maker / Solid progressions / Moderate mobility / Operates under center / Average on run / Feels pocket well
- Smallish hands @ 9 / Below average intermediate zip / Overrates arm at times / Predominantly intermediate passer / Little potential
Comparison: Matt Flynn
Scores: 102/150

6. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse (23)
+ Rocket arm / Mobile within pocket / Quick release / Works through progressions
- Poor footwork / Inconsistent accuracy / Little touch / Floating inaccurate deep ball / Holds ball low / Throws off back foot in rush / Handles pressure inconsistently / Happy feet
Comparison: (-)Jake Locker
Score: 97/150

7. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas (24)
+ Good size / Solid mobility for size / Quick release / Solid zip to perimeter
- Low release / Underneath thrower / Inconsistent decision making / Inconsistent downfield accuracy
Comparison: (-)Philip Rivers
Score: 97/150

8. Mike Glennon, North Carolina State (23)
+ Good height / Good spin on ball / High, quick release / Good ball rolling / Consistent deep accuracy when given time / Steps into throws
- Thin frame / Poor zip / Inconsistent downfield accuracy / Throws too often into coverage
Comparison: (-)Joe Flacco
Score: 97/150

9. Tyler Bray, Tennessee (21)
+ Strong arm to all areas / Attacks downfield / Young
- Consistently throws off back foot at first sight of pressure / Long delivery / Risky decision maker / Slow feet / Reported punk / Inability to reset after pump
Comparison: Byron Leftwich
Score: 80/150

10. Landry Jones, Oklahoma (24)
+ Solid accuracy when given time / Average zip to intermediate areas / Prototypical size
- Heavy feet in pocket / Struggles when pressured / Underneath thrower / One read
Comparison: Matt Cassel
Scores: 71/150

11. Zac Dysert, Miami (OH) (23)
+ Good size for NFL / Good intangibles / Plays well in big settings / High release / Good intermediate accuracy / Good on the run
- Accuracy is inconsistent / Limited mobility / Deep ball below average / Simple read offense / Poor zip for size
Comparison: Josh McCown
Score: 63/150

12. Ryan Griffin, Tulane (23)
+ Solid accuracy / Reads the field well / Good quick release / Average size
- Looks deer eyed in big situations / Poor zip / Lacks good deep ball / Little mobility
Comparison: Colt McCoy
Score: 60/150

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sos I think you're a little too high on Matt Scott (and Renfree). Might be because Seattle has shown interest. But I don't see him as the #2 QB in this draft. I think he's decent but not the #2 QB.


Geno Smith, EJ Manual, Nissib, Tyler Wilson, Barkley, Glennon
Those are my top 5. Granted I've only seen a few games of each (Glennon=1, Wilson =1) but putting Matt Scott as a 2nd rounder and Nissib as a late 3rd doesn't make sense to me. Nissib will most likely be an early 2nd at worst.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These aren't my predictions for where they'll get picked, but by where I would personally draft them based off how I feel they'll play in the league. Scott does everything well as a passer, much like Wilson, but lacks ideal size and intangibles. Renfree certainly doesn't have the upside of some of the guys behind him, but potential is only one area of my grading and as of now he is better than the guys behind him.

To expand on that, while Nassib does have a rocket arm, he has some huge footwork and pocket presence issues that will take A LOT of work to get through.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What my 1st round mock looks like so far...


#1 Kansas City Chiefs: LT Luke Joekel, Texas A&M

#2 Jacksonville Jaguars: LEO Dion Jordan, Oregon

#3 Arizona Cardinals (viaOAK): LT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan

#4 Philadelphia Eagles: DT Star Lotuleilei, Utah

#5 San Diego Chargers (viaDET): LT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma

#6 Cleveland Browns: CB Dee Milliner, Alabama

#7 Oakland Raiders (viaARI): DT Shariff Floyd, Florida

#8 Buffalo Bills: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia

#9 New York Jets: WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia

#10 Tennessee Titans: C/G Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina

#11 Detroit Lions (viaSD): DE Tank Carradine, Florida State

#12 Miami Dolphins: CB D.J. Hayden, Houston

#13 New York Jets (viaTB): DE/LB Barkevious Mingo, LSU

#14 Carolina Panthers: DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri

#15 San Francisco 49ers (viaNO): FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

#16 St. Louis Rams: OG Chance Warmack, Alabama

#17 Pittsburgh Steelers: LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia

#18 Dallas Cowboys: T/G D.J. Fluker, Alabama

#19 New York Giants: DL Ziggy Ansah, Brigham Young

#20 Chicago Bears: OL Justin Pugh, Illinois

#21 Atlanta Falcons (viaCIN): TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

#22 St. Louis Rams: WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

#23 Minnesota Vikings: WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee

#24 New England Patriots (viaIND): CB Jamar Taylor, Boise State

#25 Minnesota Vikings: WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee

#26 Green Bay Packers: DL Datone Jones, UCLA

#27 Houston Texans: LB Arthur Brown, Kansas State

#28 Denver Broncos: DE Bjoern Werner, Florida State

#29 Indianapolis Colts (viaNE): CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State

#30 Cincinnati Bengals (viaATL): FS Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International

#31 New Orleans Saints (viaSF): CB Desmond Trufant, Washington

#32 New York Jets (viaBAL): QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both hunter and patterson to Minny?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Pugh is from Syracuse not Illinois
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a funny feeling of mine that the Vikings are going to double dip at WR in the 1st round. With both of the Tennessee guys there, the Vikings see a chance to go from perhaps the worst WR corp in the NFL to one of the best, highest potential pairs in the league that are on cheap 5 year contracts. Both of these guys are high ceiling players that are familiar with one another and compliment each other beautifully. I personally wouldn't take a LB in the 1st because there is so much value at that spot in rounds 2-4.

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Justin Pugh is from Syracuse not Illinois


Oops rushed that a little.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try to get some hourly reports out on some guys that fit the Seahawks mold to look out for on Day 2!


South Carolina WLB/SS DeVonte Holloman


Analysis: Holloman is exactly the type of player I could see Seattle "reaching" on in the 3rd or 4th round and proclaiming them as the starter at WLB. Looking over our draft history, this team values mid round LBs that offer versatility. KJ Wright came out of Miss State with the ability to play both ILB and OLB with great size. Korey Toomer was an athletic pass rushing LB that also came with ideal size. Well Holloman is 6'2", 243 lbs, which is bigger than even guys like Khaseem Greene. Holloman is praised as being one of the most instinctive players in the draft, which Seattle has almost unanimously looked for when drafting defensive talent. Wright and Wagner were both similarly praised for their instincts. Holloman is being drafted at a 2-down position for this defense, but with his experience as a SS as well as LB means he doesn't always have to come out on passing downs. He is ideal at the POA, can cover the slot, and rushes the passer from the edge. Watch the game tape and you may come away scratching your head as to why he's rated so low, like I am. He almost seems to perfect for Seattle.
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Tennessee Tech WR Da'Rick Rogers



Analysis: At 6'3", and nearly 220 lbs, Rogers is exactly the type of receiver Pete loves to have in his offenses. Bevell should be salivating looking at this guy on tape, as he looks like a young Anquan Boldin with the ball in his hands. He runs like a RB but has big 9.5' hands that he can pluck the ball out of the air with. Although his drug-related issues with the University of Tennessee are a big red flag, I'm not too worried considering he passed every weekly drug test he took with Tennessee Tech and reportedly attended and passed every single class he took. He seems humbled from his punishment and would be unreal value at any one of our selections. If he has indeed fixed his character concerns, he's a top 15 talent that could land in our laps.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: The Really Early 2013 Draft Database Reply with quote

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SaveourSonics wrote:
With the college football season now right at our feet, I thought it'd be a good idea to have a thread dedicated to the Seattle fans that also spend quite a bit of time scouting these future NFLers.

This should be a nice collective database built up by our very own Seattle posters, where anyone can post their feelings, strengths/weaknesses, sleepers, quick notes, or scouting report on any prospect they have something to talk about.

If you add something in-depth, I'll update it to this post where the entire index will be kept up-to-date. This way, by the time the draft rolls around, we should have quite a few reports in here so some of the people that are more in-the-dark come draft season can easily access this thread and learn something about the prospects. Also a good way for people to compare notes on prospects that they have watched or see some sleepers that weren't on their radar.

April 21st QB Rankings

April 23rd WLB/SS DeVonte Holloman Report

April 23rd WR Da'Rick Rogers Report

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