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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dion Jordan is a very intriguing prospect to me. I love his combination of length, athleticism, and he has the potential to be a elite pass rusher IMO. However, do you guys think he could fit as a pass-rushing SLB? I know its a stretch , but he is a very versatile player. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.


Probably not enough, but he was brought to oregon to play tight end as a pure receiver. He we moved to DE because we had a logjam of tightends (both went on to the NFL) and we had a need on defense. The fact that he's turned himself into a combine invite and a second round pick at worst is a testament to his work ethic

I agree though, he'd probably be as relevant in pass coverage as clemons at his full potential.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.


This. He's much more Chris Clemons than he is Manny Lawson.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.


Probably not enough, but he was brought to oregon to play tight end as a pure receiver. He we moved to DE because we had a logjam of tightends (both went on to the NFL) and we had a need on defense. The fact that he's turned himself into a combine invite and a second round pick at worst is a testament to his work ethic

I agree though, he'd probably be as relevant in pass coverage as clemons at his full potential.
So I'll summarize what you just said...

I agree with you, but let me give my plug for him since he's from the O.

Laughing Wink


I think he has a lot of potential as an DE. You wont hear me argue otherwise
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.


he does play a little CB at oregon
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Too tall. I can't imagine he has the hip flexibility to be put in coverage even semi regularly.


Probably not enough, but he was brought to oregon to play tight end as a pure receiver. He we moved to DE because we had a logjam of tightends (both went on to the NFL) and we had a need on defense. The fact that he's turned himself into a combine invite and a second round pick at worst is a testament to his work ethic

I agree though, he'd probably be as relevant in pass coverage as clemons at his full potential.
So I'll summarize what you just said...

I agree with you, but let me give my plug for him since he's from the O.

Laughing Wink


I think he has a lot of potential as an DE. You wont hear me argue otherwise


Laughing

Was just giving a back story to his skillset, rather than bluntly saying "his hips are better than you think". It would have led to a discussion/arguement i didn't care to have, especially when i don't think he can play SLB


Oregon is a top 5 team year in and out, i don't need to pimp them Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you guys think of Alec Ogletree out of Georgia? Former safety who has moved to linebacker, he has the athleticism to cover TE and RB. That is the main weaknesses of this D. Lots of untapped potential for pass rushing too. I think he's a great fit for the SLB position.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shazor4 wrote:
What do you guys think of Alec Ogletree out of Georgia? Former safety who has moved to linebacker, he has the athleticism to cover TE and RB. That is the main weaknesses of this D. Lots of untapped potential for pass rushing too. I think he's a great fit for the SLB position.




Personally, I think he is way better suited as an ILB. Maybe even a MLB in a 4-3 scheme. He has tons of athleticism and can play sideline to sideline. He is also a very good tackler. He is only a Junior and I don't expect him to enter the draft since he might only be a high 3rd rounder at best, right now. If he stays in school, I believe he could be one of the most coveted ILB's in the 2014 draft.

Now if we're talking about Jarvis Jones, I'd be tempted to give up the farm for him. I believe he could be a Von Miller type LB as a SLB in our scheme. He may be the best player in the draft, from a talent evaluation. I love this guy! The problem would be that even if we did somehow land him, Gus Bradley wouldn't know how to use him. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigjoe0075 wrote:
We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.


Definitely. A legit #1 WR should be available in the 1st round. I also wouldn't mind a versatile lineman, unless we get one via FA.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooki wrote:
Bigjoe0075 wrote:
We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.


Definitely. A legit #1 WR should be available in the 1st round. I also wouldn't mind a versatile lineman, unless we get one via FA.


Justin Hunter has looked like a decent option later in round 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigjoe0075 wrote:
Tooki wrote:
Bigjoe0075 wrote:
We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.


Definitely. A legit #1 WR should be available in the 1st round. I also wouldn't mind a versatile lineman, unless we get one via FA.


Justin Hunter has looked like a decent option later in round 1.


We even just need a body who COULD be that type. Doug is a pure slot receiver, Golden Tate will probably never be focused enough to be a consistent #2 and Braylon is older than younger.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooki wrote:
Bigjoe0075 wrote:
Tooki wrote:
Bigjoe0075 wrote:
We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.


Definitely. A legit #1 WR should be available in the 1st round. I also wouldn't mind a versatile lineman, unless we get one via FA.


Justin Hunter has looked like a decent option later in round 1.


We even just need a body who COULD be that type. Doug is a pure slot receiver, Golden Tate will probably never be focused enough to be a consistent #2 and Braylon is older than younger.


I like Justin Hunter alot. I like a receiving core of Hunter, Rice, Baldwin, Tate, Rookie

id drafted another rookie in the later rounds that is a speedster
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigjoe0075 wrote:
Tooki wrote:
Bigjoe0075 wrote:
We spent 7 picks last year on a D that is Top 5 D. Now I think we really need to spend on offensive players. WR should be high priority then RT or OG.


Definitely. A legit #1 WR should be available in the 1st round. I also wouldn't mind a versatile lineman, unless we get one via FA.


Justin Hunter has looked like a decent option later in round 1.




I think Allen and Hunter will definitely be gone by the time we pick. Those are probably gonna be the top 2 WR's taken. We're probably gonna end up with either Woods or Williams.
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