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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
TedThompson wrote:
James Jones was our 2nd leading receiver in the XLV win over the Steelers.
He also scored key touchdowns at Philly & at Atlanta when games were close.

I know he's dropped plenty, so did a lot of guys last year. The thing is, he makes plays. A lot of them.

And he's a good dude, mature, you don't have to worry about him. And he's a bargain.

I love the potential of our young guys, but we already know what we get from JJ89, and it was good enough to help us win a Super Bowl.

I want at least what we used to get him and that's a 3rd rounder.
I'd rather keep him though, unless we get a player who can help make us better.


If by 2nd, you actually mean third, then yes.


He also had TD drops too Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
LIS, hard to dump talent for picks on a team this close!


I very much agree with this. Teams that are as close as this one tend to be buyers, rather than sellers, since it doesn't make sense to decrease your chances of winning a championship this year when your chances are high.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does this have any legs or just speculation?


I have a hard time believing any of this is really true. Why would Miami make a deal like that when they can upgrade their WR corps and not give up any draft picks by watching the waiver wire? We can't keep all of our young WRs so any of these will be an upgrade to what the Dolphins have now.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Players that'd be worth Jones:

Jake Long
Reggie Bush
Jonathan Martin

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Is Richard Marshall an upgrade at any CB position? I don't know much about the guy, but I took a look at his stats and they seemed fairly legit while in Carolina.

And then, if we hadn't drafted Perry, Cameron Wake excelled when they ran the 3-4 in 2010.
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My dream trade would include Sean Smith. Love that dude.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugger wrote:
nfldraftguru1 wrote:
Does this have any legs or just speculation?


I have a hard time believing any of this is really true. Why would Miami make a deal like that when they can upgrade their WR corps and not give up any draft picks by watching the waiver wire? We can't keep all of our young WRs so any of these will be an upgrade to what the Dolphins have now.


well, let's be honest here...James Jones is significantly better than any WR we're going to be cutting.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we draft James in the third round? For some reason I feel if we trade him for anything less we lose on that deal.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we draft James in the third round? For some reason I feel if we trade him for anything less we lose on that deal.

We wouldn't draft him in the third at his current age, with the wear we've put on him. He's been exactly what you expect out of a third round pick-- solid #2 quality wide out.
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Kenrik wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we draft James in the third round? For some reason I feel if we trade him for anything less we lose on that deal.


There is no reason to settle for anything less than that either. It makes Jones very hard to trade not just because of the value he has to the team, but also the compensation another team needs to pony up to get him.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Gurley being cut ends any discussion of a James Jones trade.
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I think Gurley being cut ends any discussion of a James Jones trade.


Why? Boykin has been the better WR?
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wiscsports1234 wrote:
I think Gurley being cut ends any discussion of a James Jones trade.


Why? Boykin has been the better WR?


IMO, Boykin was a practice squad guy. Give him time to mature. I wouldn't expect them to make Boykin one of 5 WR's at this time.
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I understand the perception that we have a surplus at the WR position, but come on guys. James Jones is a proven player. Last year he basically lit it up. He had a monster Y/R and a lot of TD's for a backup WR. At 28, I feel much more confident in his ability to produce than any of the young guys. 28 is not old for a WR. No way. Jones has proven that he can be very good.
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Fired-Up wrote:
I understand the perception that we have a surplus at the WR position, but come on guys. James Jones is a proven player. Last year he basically lit it up. He had a monster Y/R and a lot of TD's for a backup WR. At 28, I feel much more confident in his ability to produce than any of the young guys. 28 is not old for a WR. No way. Jones has proven that he can be very good.


Huge plays for us against Detroit and Atlanta. Was one of our more reliable receivers a year ago. I wouldn't want to see him go personally. I just don't like the idea of tweaking this offense. If we lose Jones, and Driver retires next year, where are we at? Jennings (contract?), Nelson and Cobb? Keep things where we're at. We're fine defensively.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Am Rodgers wrote:
wiscsports1234 wrote:
I think Gurley being cut ends any discussion of a James Jones trade.


Why? Boykin has been the better WR?


In the games against 3rd stringers. Id be pissed if I was Borel and Gurley, they should have played the whole last 3 quarters in the 3 pre-season games they were in. Harrell couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in two of them, and Gurley looked pretty good in the last one. Gurley was the best red zone threat among all of them in practice. For a guy who denied a chance on a 53 man roster for a chance at ours, he shouldn't have been pulled in games for #7, Dale Moss or Andrew Brewer, play him the whole game.
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