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Gmen4ev
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Gmen4ev wrote: | | Tyrants wrote: | | CM Punk has become the best heel the WWE has had in quite a while... |
I missed 2-3 years ... but Id have to say hes the best since edge/orton
And I mean ortons 2nd heel run when he feuded with kofi ... my cousins say it was fantastic so Ill take their word for it |
Lol Orton cant speak on the mic to save his life
Only cool thing Orton did was punt all of the McMahons |
Neither can sheamus ... but they are two of the most over guys in the WWE
Like I said I didnt watch the orton/kofi feud so I have no clue
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mistakebytehlak
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| Gmen4ev wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Gmen4ev wrote: | | Tyrants wrote: | | CM Punk has become the best heel the WWE has had in quite a while... |
I missed 2-3 years ... but Id have to say hes the best since edge/orton
And I mean ortons 2nd heel run when he feuded with kofi ... my cousins say it was fantastic so Ill take their word for it |
Lol Orton cant speak on the mic to save his life
Only cool thing Orton did was punt all of the McMahons |
Neither can sheamus ... but they are two of the most over guys in the WWE
Like I said I didnt watch the orton/kofi feud so I have no clue |
I dont agree about Sheamus. I'm not crazy about his mic skills, but he's adequate- he has a decent pacing and he doesn't flub. Sure he uses slang a bunch, but oh well. Orton talks at 2 WPM and doesn't sound natural.
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Gmen4ev
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Gmen4ev wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Gmen4ev wrote: | | Tyrants wrote: | | CM Punk has become the best heel the WWE has had in quite a while... |
I missed 2-3 years ... but Id have to say hes the best since edge/orton
And I mean ortons 2nd heel run when he feuded with kofi ... my cousins say it was fantastic so Ill take their word for it |
Lol Orton cant speak on the mic to save his life
Only cool thing Orton did was punt all of the McMahons |
Neither can sheamus ... but they are two of the most over guys in the WWE
Like I said I didnt watch the orton/kofi feud so I have no clue |
I dont agree about Sheamus. I'm not crazy about his mic skills, but he's adequate- he has a decent pacing and he doesn't flub. Sure he uses slang a bunch, but oh well. Orton talks at 2 WPM and doesn't sound natural. |
I dont like how he tries to force everything out so quickly ... his words seem to mesh and most times leaves the audience wondering what he said. I think orton makes up for his "poor" mic work with great in ring performances.
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ianlewis16
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: |
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just watched Angle Benoit at RR 03. Wow.
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ianlewis16
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oh and i agree with the lak, not a massive fan of raw. i know they're desperate with cena being out, but as much as i like ryback's potential, i dont see how you can push someone who actually doesn't even talk!
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StLunatic88
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| ianlewis16 wrote: | | oh and i agree with the lak, not a massive fan of raw. i know they're desperate with cena being out, but as much as i like ryback's potential, i dont see how you can push someone who actually doesn't even talk! |
Then I guess you missed the entire first half of Goldberg's push to the moon?
He was as over as anyone has ever been, and he wasnt speaking at all, nor did he have a mouth piece. And when he did finally talk, it was short and simple. |
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ianlewis16
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| StLunatic88 wrote: | | ianlewis16 wrote: | | oh and i agree with the lak, not a massive fan of raw. i know they're desperate with cena being out, but as much as i like ryback's potential, i dont see how you can push someone who actually doesn't even talk! |
Then I guess you missed the entire first half of Goldberg's push to the moon?
He was as over as anyone has ever been, and he wasnt speaking at all, nor did he have a mouth piece. And when he did finally talk, it was short and simple. |
Yes I did, hence my comment. Was not a WCW guy.
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Dr. Philly
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Raw made me sleep a lot.
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packsuckvikesrock
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Yup, I found my new t-shirt:
I plan on shelling out some bucks for this, Sandow, and Ziggles new shirts. So much for that next paycheck haha.
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Texansfan713
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I want that Ziggler shirt bad, but I'll wait till january when I go to Raw. 
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ianlewis16
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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damn it why did Zigs have to come out with such a good new shirt, when i only just bought the last one. damn you, you stylish bastard.
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Rearviewmirror
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| Scott Hall wrote: | | Your heart still beating man? |
| Michael Hickenbottom wrote: | | Hold on a sec... Yeah, I think so man |
| Scott Hall wrote: | | Take half of this man |
holy crap. Amazing those guys are still alive.
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Gmen4ev
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Rearviewmirror wrote: |
| Scott Hall wrote: | | Your heart still beating man? |
| Michael Hickenbottom wrote: | | Hold on a sec... Yeah, I think so man |
| Scott Hall wrote: | | Take half of this man |
holy crap. Amazing those guys are still alive. |
Yea just watching him "perform" in front of 50 people just to get that rise again ... Made me really think about who else had/ is having those problems
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| ianlewis16 wrote: | | StLunatic88 wrote: | | ianlewis16 wrote: | | oh and i agree with the lak, not a massive fan of raw. i know they're desperate with cena being out, but as much as i like ryback's potential, i dont see how you can push someone who actually doesn't even talk! |
Then I guess you missed the entire first half of Goldberg's push to the moon?
He was as over as anyone has ever been, and he wasnt speaking at all, nor did he have a mouth piece. And when he did finally talk, it was short and simple. |
Yes I did, hence my comment. Was not a WCW guy. |
It actually works really well, but only with a certain type of guy. It has to be a powerhouse that just dominates.
Worked with Andre, worked with Undertaker, worked with Kane, worked with Goldberg, and its really taking off with Ryback.
Its also not like Ryback cant talk, it just gives him more allure if all he does is scream his catch phrases. He looks like more machine than man. And while building him up thats what he needs to look like.
I dont like the "Shell Shock" especially if he cant do it to everyone. Its a fine move to have when he was building his character, but its not a good finisher. The Marching showed his strength and poewer, but now we know it so tweak it a bit. Have it be a swinging Samoan Drop now or something like that, an in match move to use.
He needs a powerful finisher, he is throwing in the Power Bomb, I would have liked to see a Dominator or Pearl River Plunge type move as his finisher. The Corner Spear is a nice one, and the "Meat Hook" lariat looks devastating.
They are building him up very well. In the IWC age everyone will hav their detractors, but He has the chance to be "Goldberg" like Over |
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Dr. Philly
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That E:60 was old, remembering seeing that a while back, glad Shawn quit that stuff.
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