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alfalcone


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is he playing in the Senior Bowl today? He's my number 1 web but that's based on my opinion that tue class is terrible an I think he has the most potential, his deep accuracy can be fixed, and that I'm a sucker for mobile quarterbacks.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alfalcone wrote:
How is he playing in the Senior Bowl today?


quite well
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KBS756


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My QB Board this year ...

1. Geno Smith
2. Tyler Wilson
3. EJ Manuel



4. Mike Glennon

So he aint doing too bad ... hope the Jets manage to land him, but I have a feelin he will be wearing another shade of green (Eagles)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.

Manuel is a big guy. 35" Arms. 6-4 227 over 10 inch hands. I like that about him. I also like his poise, maturity & College success. I'd like to see him really spin it. But he's not being given that chance.

Could move up boards. Lots of questions about this class.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conquest8089 wrote:
Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.

Manuel is a big guy. 35" Arms. 6-4 227 over 10 inch hands. I like that about him. I also like his poise, maturity & College success. I'd like to see him really spin it. But he's not being given that chance.

Could move up boards. Lots of questions about this class.


I personally really like EJ Manuel. He isnt gonna be a early first round QB like Luck Griffin, but the guy really does have arm strength. He always seems to be humble and very mature. Btw I believe it was 6'4 237 not 227. I don't see why he's being knocked so bad by so many people.

The guy played and won bowl game with a broken bone in his leg!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KBS756 wrote:
Conquest8089 wrote:
Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.

Manuel is a big guy. 35" Arms. 6-4 227 over 10 inch hands. I like that about him. I also like his poise, maturity & College success. I'd like to see him really spin it. But he's not being given that chance.

Could move up boards. Lots of questions about this class.


I personally really like EJ Manuel. He isnt gonna be a early first round QB like Luck Griffin, but the guy really does have arm strength. He always seems to be humble and very mature. Btw I believe it was 6'4 237 not 227. I don't see why he's being knocked so bad by so many people.

The guy played and won bowl game with a broken bone in his leg!


Kinda reminds me of Kaepernick. Smart, can scramble, humble. Roughly the same size too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
KBS756 wrote:
Conquest8089 wrote:
Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.

Manuel is a big guy. 35" Arms. 6-4 227 over 10 inch hands. I like that about him. I also like his poise, maturity & College success. I'd like to see him really spin it. But he's not being given that chance.

Could move up boards. Lots of questions about this class.


I personally really like EJ Manuel. He isnt gonna be a early first round QB like Luck Griffin, but the guy really does have arm strength. He always seems to be humble and very mature. Btw I believe it was 6'4 237 not 227. I don't see why he's being knocked so bad by so many people.

The guy played and won bowl game with a broken bone in his leg!


Kinda reminds me of Kaepernick. Smart, can scramble, humble. Roughly the same size too.


Doesnt have Kaepernick's top end speed though but pretty accurate comparison otherwise
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler Wilson may have the weak arm, but EJ Manuel is very inaccurate down the field.

This is just a really bad quarterback class.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like his stock will rise after the Senior Bowl. Never expected for him to go high, but then again I didn't expect Christian Ponder to go 12th overall either. EJ has the size and all the tools so if he can impress teams with the mental side of the game, could go pretty high.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EJ has the physical tools, just has some real inconsistent mechanics (particularly lower half transition) that cause him to be inaccurate at times. Sometimes he has plays that make you go WOW and other times you wanna bang your head against a wall. Someone will fall in love with him, particularly after his performance today. Wouldn't shock me to see him go round one, but ideally he'll go to a team in round 2 and backup year one to get his mechanics straightened around.
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He doesnt have great vision or downfield speed.

But he is athletic.

Hmm...

Does Chip Kelly spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on him....
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Django wrote:
He doesnt have great vision or downfield speed.

But he is athletic.

Hmm...

Does Chip Kelly spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on him....


Betting he's gone by the end of the 2nd
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conquest8089 wrote:
Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.


I not too long ago argued with the resident "scout" of the draft board who declared that Tyler Wilson had a strong arm. Now everyone can clearly see that his arm is WEAK!
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PowerElite wrote:
Conquest8089 wrote:
Tyler Wilson lacks arm strength. His sideline throws in this game were awful. The ball isn't a tight spiral. It's a wobbler.


I not too long ago argued with the resident "scout" of the draft board who declared that Tyler Wilson had a strong arm. Now everyone can clearly see that his arm is WEAK!


I just saw that he's an Arkansas grad. Suddenly the Jarius Wright and Tyler Wilson love makes a lot more sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had a good week but then I watched game highlights from last year and it kinda killed the buzz for me. He will bust big time if he's forced to start right away.
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