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OakRaiders3828


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dessie wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
DVD and Chekwa have really fallen off. IMO our top 4 CB's right now are Bartell/Spencer/Lee/McCann.

I'd honestly like to see Underwood kept as the 5th safety, because as a former CB he can be versatile and used as our back-up safety and 5th or 6th Corner as well. He's been pretty good this pre-season on special teams and on defense.

I wouldn't mind looking at Harris either. He's young, has good ball skills and return abilities as well.


Can I ask what McCann has done to suggest he can be our 4th CB ? Is he running with the 2nd string at Cb ?


He was, he was the nickel corner with the starting defense against AZ, but it's not so much what he's done as it is how DVD has played, he's still not ready it seems, but he's still young with time to improve.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May not be saying much, but McCann was probably our best returner in the preseason and had some nice returns last season. Like to see him get some more reps. Definitely down with bringing in Harris, who I wanted in the 6th-7th round in the draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cuts as expected. Surprised Dorsey didn't show more. Some thought he'd make some noise.

As for Cliff Harris. I'm an Oregon homer, so I of course want him. He's a pretty dynamic KR/PR guy. Imagine he'd be a decent gunner on STs and has more upside playing CB than anything else on the roster.

Wouldnt hurt to give him a shot returning some kicks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dessie wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
DVD and Chekwa have really fallen off. IMO our top 4 CB's right now are Bartell/Spencer/Lee/McCann.

I'd honestly like to see Underwood kept as the 5th safety, because as a former CB he can be versatile and used as our back-up safety and 5th or 6th Corner as well. He's been pretty good this pre-season on special teams and on defense.

I wouldn't mind looking at Harris either. He's young, has good ball skills and return abilities as well.


Can I ask what McCann has done to suggest he can be our 4th CB ? Is he running with the 2nd string at Cb ?


only place I've ever seen McCann mentioned is on here
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also would like to

cut Richard Gordan and bring in a vet like Cooley!

Fred Davis is just a stud for the Redskins....



I would also look at RBS.. alot of quality backs should be there....

A return specialist , but Roscoe maybe that man...

Vontae Davis would of been sweet for a mid rounder. Should of offered Louis Murphy awhile back, their wideouts suct



Also what happened to Andre Carter! I want him
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there


Its almost gaurenteed now that Lee, Cristo and Parsons will make the team. Probablly Cumbie and McCann as well unless we can get another CB.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberiusRising wrote:
silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there


Its almost gaurenteed now that Lee, Cristo and Parsons will make the team. Probablly Cumbie and McCann as well unless we can get another CB.



you think we will keep over 5 CBS?
Locks

Bartell Spencer

I just don't see use getting rid of
DVD or Chekwa yet.. I think Chekwa has rebounded

5th corner
McCann or Lee... McCann was out returner perhaps bringing in Roscoe shows or confidence in McCann. I like Cristo but Cumbie has been playing great and might kick Cristo or Hamilton off the team. Parsons seems below average to me.. How long is Wiz hurt?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there


Its almost gaurenteed now that Lee, Cristo and Parsons will make the team. Probablly Cumbie and McCann as well unless we can get another CB.



you think we will keep over 5 CBS?
Locks

Bartell Spencer

I just don't see use getting rid of
DVD or Chekwa yet.. I think Chekwa has rebounded

5th corner
McCann or Lee... McCann was out returner perhaps bringing in Roscoe shows or confidence in McCann. I like Cristo but Cumbie has been playing great and might kick Cristo or Hamilton off the team. Parsons seems below average to me.. How long is Wiz hurt?


good chance we keep 5 especially when mccan has returned kicks and dvd gets a shot. special team guys in the least

last i heard, wiz with a calf is day to day. who knows tho..
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:

I just don't see use getting rid of
DVD or Chekwa yet.. I think Chekwa has rebounded

5th corner
McCann or Lee... McCann was out returner perhaps bringing in Roscoe shows or confidence in McCann. I like Cristo but Cumbie has been playing great and might kick Cristo or Hamilton off the team. Parsons seems below average to me.. How long is Wiz hurt?


Imo, it's more likely that one of DVD and Chekwa gets cut at this point. The Parrish signing has more to do with the leading candidate for that 6th WR spot, Eddie McGee, who hasn't shown much as a receiver and doesn't offer anything on ST either. If you're gonna keep a 6th WR you might as well keep a guy who can help somewhere. Parrish hasn't been a great returner lately but he can be useful while Ford is out.

I have no idea who will stay at DT since Bilukidi, Hamilton and Cumbie all seem worthy of a roster spot to me. I'd guess Hamilton has a better shot of being kept on the PS though.

Parsons isn't good but he's the best option we have for backup C and we obviously need one.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there


I can assure you Christo Bilukidi is definitely not getting cut. I love his size and quickness.

Reggie made a fine pick with this kid, in the 6th round.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
I also would like to

cut Richard Gordan and bring in a vet like Cooley!

Fred Davis is just a stud for the Redskins....



I would also look at RBS.. alot of quality backs should be there....

A return specialist , but Roscoe maybe that man...

Vontae Davis would of been sweet for a mid rounder. Should of offered Louis Murphy awhile back, their wideouts suct



Also what happened to Andre Carter! I want him
How would we have gotten Vontae Davis for a mid rounder when Indy gave up a second?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there
Who's playing Center then, since you cut them all?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there


Its almost gaurenteed now that Lee, Cristo and Parsons will make the team. Probablly Cumbie and McCann as well unless we can get another CB.



you think we will keep over 5 CBS?
Locks

Bartell Spencer

I just don't see use getting rid of
DVD or Chekwa yet.. I think Chekwa has rebounded

5th corner
McCann or Lee... McCann was out returner perhaps bringing in Roscoe shows or confidence in McCann. I like Cristo but Cumbie has been playing great and might kick Cristo or Hamilton off the team. Parsons seems below average to me.. How long is Wiz hurt?


By rebounded you mean worked over by Kellen Moore who will be selling cars this time next week?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raidr4life wrote:
silver_surfer wrote:
Next 22 cuts

1 WR Session
2 WR McGee
3 WR Carrier
4 WR Carswell
5 TE Efaw
6 TE Humphrey
7 T Haslem or Knapp
8 C Colin Miller
9 OL Nick Howell
10 OL Alex Parsons
11 LB Stupar
12 LB Burnett
13 K Carmona
14 LB Kilgore
15 DT Cumbie or Cristo --- Cristo for now
16 DE Hall Davis
17 DB Curtis Taylor
18 IR P King- need to keep him
19 CB Conroy Black
20 and 21 Pat Lee or McCann or UnderWood close to call.. 1 of 3 makes it
21 Lonyae Miller- unless Goodsen fumbles again. Lonyae is close but not there
Who's playing Center then, since you cut them all?


How I feel reading this guys posts:


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