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Browns new CEO Joe Banner acknowledged that he and owner Jimmy Haslam will decide over the rest of the season if Brandon Weeden is the quarterback of the future.
"It's right to put Brandon on the list of important things we have to figure out and we have seven games left to do that," Banner said. "It's an extremely important question for this organization to get right ... You can't win big without a great coach and a great quarterback." Weeden has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he has an NFL arm, but his decision-making, accuracy, and pocket presence have been spotty. At 2-7, the Browns will likely have a high enough pick to draft a premium prospect at the position.
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Spectre
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Browns new CEO Joe Banner acknowledged that he and owner Jimmy Haslam will decide over the rest of the season if Brandon Weeden is the quarterback of the future.
"It's right to put Brandon on the list of important things we have to figure out and we have seven games left to do that," Banner said. "It's an extremely important question for this organization to get right ... You can't win big without a great coach and a great quarterback." Weeden has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he has an NFL arm, but his decision-making, accuracy, and pocket presence have been spotty. At 2-7, the Browns will likely have a high enough pick to draft a premium prospect at the position.
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As they should. Here's the real 'stunner' quote from that article: "Anybody can see he throws the ball well," Banner said. "The more crucial evaluation are the other issues that drive the best quarterbacks in the league such as huddle presence, feel, intelligence, and leadership."
GASP! You mean QBs should be judged on something other than arm talent? Say it ain't so, Joe! |
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JCBrowns21
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| Spectre wrote: | | smh wrote: |
Browns new CEO Joe Banner acknowledged that he and owner Jimmy Haslam will decide over the rest of the season if Brandon Weeden is the quarterback of the future.
"It's right to put Brandon on the list of important things we have to figure out and we have seven games left to do that," Banner said. "It's an extremely important question for this organization to get right ... You can't win big without a great coach and a great quarterback." Weeden has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he has an NFL arm, but his decision-making, accuracy, and pocket presence have been spotty. At 2-7, the Browns will likely have a high enough pick to draft a premium prospect at the position.
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/cle/cleveland-browns |
As they should. Here's the real 'stunner' quote from that article: "Anybody can see he throws the ball well," Banner said. "The more crucial evaluation are the other issues that drive the best quarterbacks in the league such as huddle presence, feel, intelligence, and leadership."
GASP! You mean QBs should be judged on something other than arm talent? Say it ain't so, Joe! |
Interesting, I took that to imply that Banner/Haslam have questions on Weeden's huddle presence, intelligence, leadership, etc. I haven't heard that things were issues thus far. Decision-making, yes, but not intelligence.
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| IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
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Dawgpoun8017
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This.
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
It's 2006 all over again.
Geno Smith is Vince Young.
Matt Barkley is Matt Leinart.
Tyler Wilson is Jay Cutler.
Tyler Bray is Kellen Clemens.
All of them are iffy, but I think that Wilson is going to end up the best of the bunch. |
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Dawgpoun8017
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
It's 2006 all over again.
Geno Smith is Vince Young.
Matt Barkley is Matt Leinart.
Tyler Wilson is Jay Cutler.
Tyler Bray is Kellen Clemens.
All of them are iffy, but I think that Wilson is going to end up the best of the bunch. |
Early in the year it was Geno this, Geno that. Now its as if he never existed
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
It's 2006 all over again.
Geno Smith is Vince Young.
Matt Barkley is Matt Leinart.
Tyler Wilson is Jay Cutler.
Tyler Bray is Kellen Clemens.
All of them are iffy, but I think that Wilson is going to end up the best of the bunch. |
Early in the year it was Geno this, Geno that. Now its as if he never existed |
That's what happen when you lose 4 in a row and steadily decline during the season.
As he was before the hype, he's a late 1st-early 2nd type prospect who will get drafted earlier out of desperation. Problem with that is that desperate teams usually don't have what it takes to properly develop a player like him, and he and the team will ultimately fail.
This holds true for the Browns, as well as other teams. |
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
It's 2006 all over again.
Geno Smith is Vince Young.
Matt Barkley is Matt Leinart.
Tyler Wilson is Jay Cutler.
Tyler Bray is Kellen Clemens.
All of them are iffy, but I think that Wilson is going to end up the best of the bunch. |
That is pretty funny I think Bray is more of the Jay Culter then Wilson, but I can give a argument for the Wilson comparison too I wouldnt be surprised with it turning out like that.
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HADEN4PREZIDENT
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class
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| HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class |
Too early to tell folks. |
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ditchdigger
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| Drew_Carey wrote: | | HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class |
Too early to tell folks. |
Regular season is over in 12 days. If you don't have an opinion by now... |
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| Drew_Carey wrote: | | HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class |
Too early to tell folks. |
Not a lot of time left to tell. I mean, how many games are left this year, 2+bowl games?
I like Wilson's potential,and I just dont know what to think of Barkley. Obviously I was all over Geno earlier, that turned out to be a bad call.
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HADEN4PREZIDENT
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | Drew_Carey wrote: | | HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class |
Too early to tell folks. |
Not a lot of time left to tell. I mean, how many games are left this year, 2+bowl games?
I like Wilson's potential,and I just dont know what to think of Barkley. Obviously I was all over Geno earlier, that turned out to be a bad call. |
A see 3 middle of the road starters at best
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Entropy
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| HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | Drew_Carey wrote: | | HADEN4PREZIDENT wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | TeHDruiD wrote: | | IMO, we'd be making a huge mistake taking a QB with our 1st rounder. Not because of Weeden, but because I don't think the QB's in this draft are very good |
This. |
Pathetic QB Class |
Too early to tell folks. |
Not a lot of time left to tell. I mean, how many games are left this year, 2+bowl games?
I like Wilson's potential,and I just dont know what to think of Barkley. Obviously I was all over Geno earlier, that turned out to be a bad call. |
A see 3 middle of the road starters at best |
Honestly, who wants to be the team to draft a 1st round QB 2 years in a row?
Weeden will have to commit a felony guys...next topic?
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