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| rickyt31 wrote: | | With this up coming draft class & Free Agency , I'm not ruling out any positions being a 1st round pick . Besides Corner & Center. Its going to take a while to determine our most important whole to fill. |
Rob Malone is pretty good. I don't think we take a punter in the first.  |
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Spiel612
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I'm thinking Jason Campbell as the veteran addition and not drafting a quarterback in the first round.
I'm still high on Mike Glennon. He's rebounded quite nicely on a team with average talent after a tough first game against Tennessee.
As for Bray, I love him as a prospect, but maturity is definitely a concern at his position. |
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green24
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| Spiel612 wrote: | I'm thinking Jason Campbell as the veteran addition and not drafting a quarterback in the first round.
I'm still high on Mike Glennon. He's rebounded quite nicely on a team with average talent after a tough first game against Tennessee.
As for Bray, I love him as a prospect, but maturity is definitely a concern at his position. |
I would probably prefer a trade for Mart Flynn if we were to go that route.
Bray seems like Ryan Leaf to me. |
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Spiel612
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| green24 wrote: | | Spiel612 wrote: | I'm thinking Jason Campbell as the veteran addition and not drafting a quarterback in the first round.
I'm still high on Mike Glennon. He's rebounded quite nicely on a team with average talent after a tough first game against Tennessee.
As for Bray, I love him as a prospect, but maturity is definitely a concern at his position. |
I would probably prefer a trade for Mart Flynn if we were to go that route.
Bray seems like Ryan Leaf to me. |
Why trade? Why send anymore draft picks? I don't see much of a difference between Campbell and Flynn other then perceived upside, which is certainly diminished after Flynn somehow lost his starting job to Russell Wilson before ever taking a regular season snap.
May as well bring in Campbell, who has shown he can take care of the ball. I'm not expecting this team to compete for a Super Bowl anytime soon. I'd rather have a veteran like Campbell with real experience on the roster if we wind up drafting a young quarterback. It'd be better then having Flynn, who wouldn't be of much use to a youngster. |
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rickyt31
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| green24 wrote: | | Spiel612 wrote: | I'm thinking Jason Campbell as the veteran addition and not drafting a quarterback in the first round.
I'm still high on Mike Glennon. He's rebounded quite nicely on a team with average talent after a tough first game against Tennessee.
As for Bray, I love him as a prospect, but maturity is definitely a concern at his position. |
I would probably prefer a trade for Mart Flynn if we were to go that route.
Bray seems like Ryan Leaf to me. |
At the moment, I'm leaning towards signing Jason campbell and waiting a year to draft another. I don't want to draft another Rookie and expect him to grow with the type of surrounding we have now. Sign JC, tune up the Oline, and draft a solid running back in the top 3 rounds that can take the starting job. Also sign a Vet fullback, and #2 TE who can block and still make plays catching. That way we can go back to the running game, and have a QB that won't blow games.
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KingOfTheHill84
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If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now
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rickyt31
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| KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year.
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KingOfTheHill84
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| rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
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2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB
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rickyt31
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| KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with.
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KingOfTheHill84
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| rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with. |
Yeah he plays under great control, his bull rush is phenomenal unlike Mingo when OT's get hands on him he's neutralized. Montgomery is a better fit for us than Mingo and Jones, Ealy is the next Aldon Smith which is why I dont mind waiting if we go for Geno
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rickyt31
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| KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with. |
Yeah he plays under great control, his bull rush is phenomenal unlike Mingo when OT's get hands on him he's neutralized. Montgomery is a better fit for us than Mingo and Jones, Ealy is the next Aldon Smith which is why I dont mind waiting if we go for Geno |
I agree about Mingo. When I seen big Sam play, I thought he might have been a little to stiff to play OLB. But I will watch him again to make sure. I really like the OLB's in this draft. There still might be some good prospects in the 2nd round.
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KingOfTheHill84
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| rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with. |
Yeah he plays under great control, his bull rush is phenomenal unlike Mingo when OT's get hands on him he's neutralized. Montgomery is a better fit for us than Mingo and Jones, Ealy is the next Aldon Smith which is why I dont mind waiting if we go for Geno |
I agree about Mingo. When I seen big Sam play, I thought he might have been a little to stiff to play OLB. But I will watch him again to make sure. I really like the OLB's in this draft. There still might be some good prospects in the 2nd round. |
I just dont wanna reach again that sucks
back to Geno
1 way we might be able to get him is if a team like Indianapolis, New Orleans or Carolina ends up with the #1 pick we could try and trade up since they all got QB's.
I really want this kid
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rickyt31
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| KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with. |
Yeah he plays under great control, his bull rush is phenomenal unlike Mingo when OT's get hands on him he's neutralized. Montgomery is a better fit for us than Mingo and Jones, Ealy is the next Aldon Smith which is why I dont mind waiting if we go for Geno |
I agree about Mingo. When I seen big Sam play, I thought he might have been a little to stiff to play OLB. But I will watch him again to make sure. I really like the OLB's in this draft. There still might be some good prospects in the 2nd round. |
I just dont wanna reach again that sucks
back to Geno
1 way we might be able to get him is if a team like Indianapolis, New Orleans or Carolina ends up with the #1 pick we could try and trade up since they all got QB's.
I really want this kid |
I can see that happening. That will be the best move to make if we go QB in the first.
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KingOfTheHill84
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| rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | rickyt31 wrote: | | KingOfTheHill84 wrote: | | If we got a shot at Geno or Bray take them, in 2014 who's coming out that is worth the wait nobody we know of right now |
I'm not sure yet. This would be the year when the top QB's for next year's draft show their skills. Bray is still a Junior, he could hold back from this draft to be #1 next year. |
thats what I mean if they come out we gotta get them, if not then we re-evaluate. I want our next 2 1st Round picks to look like this
either
2013- Sam Montgomery OLB
2014- Tyler Bray QB
or
2013- Geno Smith QB
2014- Kony Ealy OLB |
I'm glad you brought Sam up. Do you really think he can play 3-4OLB? I love the attitude he play with. |
Yeah he plays under great control, his bull rush is phenomenal unlike Mingo when OT's get hands on him he's neutralized. Montgomery is a better fit for us than Mingo and Jones, Ealy is the next Aldon Smith which is why I dont mind waiting if we go for Geno |
I agree about Mingo. When I seen big Sam play, I thought he might have been a little to stiff to play OLB. But I will watch him again to make sure. I really like the OLB's in this draft. There still might be some good prospects in the 2nd round. |
I just dont wanna reach again that sucks
back to Geno
1 way we might be able to get him is if a team like Indianapolis, New Orleans or Carolina ends up with the #1 pick we could try and trade up since they all got QB's.
I really want this kid |
I can see that happening. That will be the best move to make if we go QB in the first. |
I see it from Washington's point of view, get your QB, build a system that best fits him and then start to acquire weapons and let him grow slowly
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rickyt31
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| KingOfTheHill84 wrote: |
I see it from Washington's point of view, get your QB, build a system that best fits him and then start to acquire weapons and let him grow slowly |
First, I want to hire a GM who know how to build around a QB correctly before we make a big move like that.
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