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Canadian_Patriot 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| patsfan25 wrote: | | I don't remember too much about him. What was his projected draft value? Looks a lot like CJ Spiller, who I like. |
Before making the decision to presue the Olympics? 4th round, he dropped significantly after that though. (Clearly, we wasn't drafted)
This guy comes with literally no baggage, by all accounts he's exactly the type of football player Bill likes to bring in.
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Donut 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | Ha
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Apparently 26 GMs were interested and a handful were still trying today. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Sciz wrote: | | I think they need a second 220 pounder just in case something happens to Ridley. |
Which is why Bolden can hang out on the practice squad, I guess? I'm not convinced that he's a guy worth carrying on the 53 barring excellent special teams value.
Though, I do agree that carrying Demps/Vereen/Woodhead seems like a bit of a waste if Demps is in NFL game shape. I don't particularly care for Woodhead - he sucks as a returner and anything he can do on offense, Vereen can do better. | Its about having depth! |
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NextBigThing 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Donut wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | Ha
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Apparently 26 GMs were interested and a handful were still trying today. |
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PatriotsWin! 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Are 3 year deals typically given to UDFAs? _________________
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NinjaZX6R 
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| PatriotsWin! wrote: | | Are 3 year deals typically given to UDFAs? |
Under the new CBA, yes. |
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Grachuus 
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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I think the most interesting thing about this experience is that because he's an UDFA there were steep restrictions on the contract and thus the difference possible between contracts was very small. Could be said that this type of restriction set and in this situation the Patriots were one of a handful of teams heavily favored.
I mean really who wouldn't want to pick a top of the line team to sign with when nothing else is really different? Patriots backfield is certainly not set forever and he's a guy who would probably benefit from 10-15 touches which is the style they use. Patriots of course set the hook by declaring their intentions before the draft. _________________
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patsfan25
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:13 am Post subject: |
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I watched some tape on Demps. My thoughts:
Has a long way to go as an NFL RB. Elite speed, cut, quickness, agility, explosion etc. I don't think I've seen anyone like it before. However, he is fragile as air, and goes down once anybody touches him. Runs way too fast for his mental speed, resulting in stumbling, awkward collisions, and lack of cutback vision. He needs to be A LOT more patient, and run lower on the pads. His speed could so make up for running with a more patient style. I really hope he learns more about the game. This guy has greatness potential talent-wise. _________________
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24isthelaw
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| patsfan25 wrote: | I watched some tape on Demps. My thoughts:
Has a long way to go as an NFL RB. Elite speed, cut, quickness, agility, explosion etc. I don't think I've seen anyone like it before. However, he is fragile as air, and goes down once anybody touches him. Runs way too fast for his mental speed, resulting in stumbling, awkward collisions, and lack of cutback vision. He needs to be A LOT more patient, and run lower on the pads. His speed could so make up for running with a more patient style. I really hope he learns more about the game. This guy has greatness potential talent-wise. |
The thing is balance, strength, and vision aren't things you just learn. Like his otherworldly speed, some guys have them and others don't. To expect Demps to improve in all those categories would be unrealistic.
Is having a pure KR specialist worth it on the 53 when the majority of kick returns are touchbacks? I'm not convinced Demps is going to be anything more this season. _________________
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patsfan25
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:36 am Post subject: |
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^^
I'd have to disagree with you to a certain extent. Demps needs to learn to lower himself and keep his pads low in traffic. The right technique goes a long way in balance. Keeping his pads low and learning to absorb hits can improve his strength, another technicality. When defenders hit him, he's so focused on getting away with his speed that he isn't aware of a potential hit. He needs to learn to acknowledge hits and take them on. Vision has a lot to do with experience and patience. Tiki Barber started out with poor vision, and had one of the best vision I ever saw from a RB by the end of his career. I don't think he's missing anything he doesn't already naturally have. He just needs to learn the game. That's a big 'JUST' though... _________________
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Billy Spikes 
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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***Update***
| Quote: | According to a source with knowledge of the contract, Demps received a signing bonus of $11,000. Demps' signing bonus brings New England closer to the $76,585 maximum that teams could spend on signing bonuses for undrafted free agents in 2012. (New England is currently at $76,500)
In addition to the signing bonus, the Patriots have fully guaranteed $200,000 of the $390,000 base salary Demps would earn if he makes the 53-man roster. If Demps does not make the team, he'd still get that money. The total of $211,000 in guaranteed money is the second-largest sum made to a 2012 undrafted free agent, exceeded only by the $214,000 that the Dallas Cowboys guaranteed offensive lineman Ronald Leary. |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000052491/article/patriots-make-large-financial-commitment-to-jeff-demps _________________
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VTPatsFan 
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Spikes wrote: | ***Update***
| Quote: | According to a source with knowledge of the contract, Demps received a signing bonus of $11,000. Demps' signing bonus brings New England closer to the $76,585 maximum that teams could spend on signing bonuses for undrafted free agents in 2012. (New England is currently at $76,500)
In addition to the signing bonus, the Patriots have fully guaranteed $200,000 of the $390,000 base salary Demps would earn if he makes the 53-man roster. If Demps does not make the team, he'd still get that money. The total of $211,000 in guaranteed money is the second-largest sum made to a 2012 undrafted free agent, exceeded only by the $214,000 that the Dallas Cowboys guaranteed offensive lineman Ronald Leary. |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000052491/article/patriots-make-large-financial-commitment-to-jeff-demps |
I wonder who gets the $85 signing bonus. _________________
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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| VTPatsFan wrote: | | Billy Spikes wrote: | ***Update***
| Quote: | According to a source with knowledge of the contract, Demps received a signing bonus of $11,000. Demps' signing bonus brings New England closer to the $76,585 maximum that teams could spend on signing bonuses for undrafted free agents in 2012. (New England is currently at $76,500)
In addition to the signing bonus, the Patriots have fully guaranteed $200,000 of the $390,000 base salary Demps would earn if he makes the 53-man roster. If Demps does not make the team, he'd still get that money. The total of $211,000 in guaranteed money is the second-largest sum made to a 2012 undrafted free agent, exceeded only by the $214,000 that the Dallas Cowboys guaranteed offensive lineman Ronald Leary. |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000052491/article/patriots-make-large-financial-commitment-to-jeff-demps |
I wonder who gets the $85 signing bonus. | I'd pay Mike Rivera $85 to leave town and never come back. _________________
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