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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Fantasy Football (Keeper League 2012) - DRAFT TODAY 7PM EST Reply with quote

Decided to make a new thread so i could hog a few posts at the beginning for my purposes.

Here's the link to the past thread if you're interested: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=452364

DEADLINES:

LEAGUE SIGN UP: August 23rd
KEEPER PICKS IN: August 30th


If you do not sign back up before the deadline, i will start actively seeking your replacement on August 24th. Those that are not part of the league and wish to join may post your interest here. Your post will essentially be your "dibs" if someone does not join.

Rules (it's long, but not really complicated):
theJ wrote:
1. Each team can keep from 0-3 players from their previous end-of-season roster – Depending on what players are left on your team at the end of the previous season, you may wish to “keep” none of your players.

2. Players drafted in the first 2 rounds of a draft can not be kept in the following season – This prevents the top tier of players from being kept and creating massively unfair teams. Due to rule 4 below, the first 2 rounds technically couldn’t be kept anyways.

3. A Player can only be kept a maximum of 3 consecutive times – This rule is there just to keep things interesting. If you want the same player(s) on the same team year after year, maybe you should start a Dynasty league instead.

EDIT: Clarifier: A player may be kept 3 times consecutively, regardless of which team is keeping them. Meaning two teams can't trade 3rd year keepers so that they can keep them for 3 more years.

4. For each player that is kept (and was originally drafted by a team), that manager must give up a draft pick 2 picks higher than where the player was initially drafted the year before – This ensures that players that improve in talent each season are accounted for. If Frank Gore was drafted in the 13th round last year, you probably don’t want him counting for a teams 13th pick for the next 3 years.

Example: Wide receiver Brandon Marshall was drafted in the 11th round last year. If kept, this year he would account for the teams 9th round pick. If kept again, the following year he would be considered the 7th round pick.

5. Any player that went undrafted the previous year, but is being kept, will count as a team’s 3rd to last draft pick – This rule is there to slightly reward good drafting, as keeping free agent pickups are a little pricier than last round draft picks.

Example: Marques Colston was picked up off free agency last season by a team. If the league has 15 rounds in its draft, and the manager wishes to keep Colston, he must give up his 12th round pick the following season (as opposed to a player drafted in the 15th round, who would only count for the 13th pick).

6. If you do not have a draft pick for a round to give up to keep a player, you must give up the next higher pick – This will only happen if you keep your second to last rounder and a free agent pickup (or multiple free agent pickups). In this case, you will lose your 12th and 13th rounder (assuming a 15 round draft).

Example: You wish to keep two free agents that you picked up during last season. Because both of them would qualify for your 12th pick (in a 15 round draft), one must count as the 12th pick, but the other will have to be your 11th pick.

7. No trading of picks or players (players can still be traded during the season before the trade deadline - This is to keep teams from trading a player that wasn't going to be kept in order to get an extra draft pick. In a way, this rewards the team extra for good drafting, but also gives an unfair advantage for the following season.

To clarify:

-For all trades, you will give up the draft pick that he was chosen at. So if i drafted Cedric Benson in the 7th and traded him, he's still worth the 7th rounder and the team who chooses to keep him will give up a 5th.

-However, if you drafted say, Jamal Charles in the 13th, and dropped him, his round value is void. So the team that picks him up in FA will give up a 12th, not an 11th.

I will investigate all keepers for how they were acquired, so you don't have to worry about it. I'll end up posting here what you'll be giving up. Feel free to give me this info if you'd like, it will make the investigation easier.

Addendum: I want to head this off before it occurs:

In order to keep a player, he has to actually play a game with your fantasy team. Meaning, you can't pick up Dez Bryant, then use your 12th rounder to keep him (he's on IR). The same goes for any player on IR.

This is meant to discourage owners from picking up guys on IR with the intent of using them as keeper players the following years.


Teams (Green has signed up on yahoo, Red has not):
BuckeyeBengal77 (HangOnSloopy)
Carson4MVP
Delbert's Autopicks
George Feeny Bristow
Gregor Jones
TheVillain (formerly maximus)
Team J
The Holy Ocho's
johndeere (formerly cc9)
dominators

2012 Draft Order
1 Delbert's Autopicks
2 Villain (formerly Maximus)
3 Gregor Jones
4 George Feeny Bristow
5 dominators
6 BuckeyeBengal77 (Hang On Sloopy)
7 The Holy Ocho's
8 johndeere (formerly cc9)
9 Carson4MVP
10 Team J

Keeper Status (Due August 30th)

Carson4MVP

Arian Foster - 2nd rounder (2nd time)
Jordy Nelson - 11th rounder (1st time)
Cam Newton - 12th rounder (1st time)

Team J

Ray Rice - 3rd rounder (3rd time)
Jamaal Charles - 8th rounder (3rd time)
Demarco Murray - 12th rounder (1st time)

The Holy Ocho's

Rob Gronkowski - 12th rounder (1st time)
Steve Smith - 11th rounder (1st time)
Brandon Lloyd - 10th rounder (2nd time)

cc9 (johndeere taking over)

Jimmy Graham- 3 rounder (1st time)
Julio Jones- 4 rounder (1st time)
AJ Green- 7 rounder (1st time)

Delbert

Aaron Hernandez - 10th rounder (2nd time)
Andy Dalton - 12th rounder (1st time)
Jets DST - 5th rounder (1st time)

HangOnSloopy

Percy Harvin - 12th rounder (1st time)
Miles Austin - 8th rounder (3rd time)
Marshawn Lynch - 5th round (1st time)

GregorSamsa

Missed keeper deadline - no keepers

Beck Bristow

Fred Jackson - 10th rounder (2nd time)
Victor Cruz - 11th rounder (1st time)
Darren Sproles - 12th rounder (1st time)

Maximus (Villain taking over)

Matt Stafford - 6th rounder (1st time)
Vernon Davis - 8th rounder (3rd time)
Torrey Smith - 12th rounder (1st time)

Dominators

Darren McFadden - 5th rounder (2nd time)

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2012 Trades

None so far
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2011 Final Rosters (pick keepers from here)

Player / Draft Spot / Keeper (# of times kept)

Everyone is still eligible to be kept. For some players, this will be the last year they can be kept.

Team J
Kahlil Bell
LeGarrette Blount 
Antonio Brown
Jamaal Charles 
Roy Helu
DeMarco Murray
Ray Rice 
Laurent Robinson
Aaron Rodgers
Mark Sanchez
Kevin Smith
Roddy White
Kellen Winslow
David Akers
San Francisco

Delbert's Autopicks
Andy Dalton
Pierre Garcon
Shonn Greene
Aaron Hernandez
Devin Hester
Chris Johnson
Dustin Keller
Jeremy Maclin
Matt Ryan
Mike Thomas
Pierre Thomas
Reggie Wayne
Matt Bryant
New Orleans
New York

cc9
Dwayne Bowe
Tom Brady
Jimmy Graham
A.J. Green
Alex Green
Jermaine Gresham
Julio Jones
Colt McCoy
LeSean McCoy
Sidney Rice
James Starks
Ben Tate
Mike Williams
Stephen Gostkowski
Buffalo

HangOnSloopy
Miles Austin 
Drew Brees
Marques Colston
Jermichael Finley
Percy Harvin
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Hillis 
Calvin Johnson
Marshawn Lynch
Willis McGahee
Rashard Mendenhall 
Santana Moss
Beanie Wells
Mason Crosby
Cincinnati

George Feeny Bristow
Joseph Addai
Dez Bryant
Brent Celek
Victor Cruz
Owen Daniels
Frank Gore
Fred Jackson 
Andre Johnson
Stevie Johnson
Robert Meachem
Ben Roethlisberger
Alex Smith
Darren Sproles
Shaun Suisham
New York

Gregor Jones
Ahmad Bradshaw
Michael Bush
Dallas Clark
Matt Forte
Antonio Gates
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Santonio Holmes
Vincent Jackson 
Maurice Jones-Drew
Carson Palmer
Jerome Simpson
Tim Tebow
Michael Vick 
Billy Cundiff
Baltimore

The Holy Ocho's
Cedric Benson
Reggie Bush
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Tony Gonzalez
Rob Gronkowski
DeSean Jackson 
Felix Jones
Brandon Lloyd 
Adrian Peterson
Tony Romo
Steve Smith
LaDainian Tomlinson
Wes Welker
Sebastian Janikowski
Houston

Carson4MVP
Arian Foster 
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Brandon Jacobs
Eli Manning
Brandon Marshall
Jordy Nelson
Cam Newton
Greg Olsen
Daniel Thomas
Michael Turner
Mike Wallace 
Jason Witten
Dan Bailey
Detroit
Green Bay

Maximus
Jared Cook
Vernon Davis 
Larry Fitzgerald
Ryan Grant
Mark Ingram
Donovan McNabb 
Lance Moore
Hakeem Nicks
Torrey Smith
Matthew Stafford
Mike Tolbert
Danny Woodhead
Nick Folk
Philadelphia

dominators

Anquan Boldin
Jabar Gaffney
Steven Jackson
Mario Manningham 
Ryan Mathews
Darren McFadden 
Heath Miller
Brandon Pettigrew
Philip Rivers
C.J. Spiller
Jonathan Stewart
Nate Washington
DeAngelo Williams
John Kasay
Dallas
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last Year's Draft


The Holy Ocho's
1. (1) Adrian Peterson
(Min - RB)
2. (20) Tony Romo
(Dal - QB)
3. (21) Felix Jones
(Dal - RB)
4. (40) Cedric Benson
(GB - RB)
5. (41) Wes Welker
(NE - WR)
6. (60) Tony Gonzalez
(Atl - TE)
7. (61) DeSean Jackson
(Phi - WR)
8. (80) New England
(NE - DEF)
9. (81) Sebastian Janikowski
(Oak - K)
10. (100) Kyle Orton
(Dal - QB)
11. (101) C.J. Spiller
(Buf - RB)
12. (120) Brandon Lloyd
(NE - WR)
13. (121) Steve Smith
(Car - WR)
14. (140) Rob Gronkowski
(NE - TE)
15. (141) Thomas Jones
(KC - RB)

Delbert's Autopicks
1. (2) Chris Johnson
(Ten - RB)
2. (19) Shonn Greene
(NYJ - RB)
3. (22) Reggie Wayne
(Ind - WR)
4. (39) Matt Ryan
(Atl - QB)
5. (42) BenJarvus Green-Ellis
(Cin - RB)
6. (59) Jeremy Maclin
(Phi - WR)
7. (62) New York
(NYJ - DEF)
8. (79) Matt Bryant
(Atl - K)
9. (82) Brandon Jacobs
(SF - RB)
10. (99) Willis McGahee
(Den - RB)
11. (102) Mike Thomas
(Jac - WR)
12. (119) Aaron Hernandez
(NE - TE)
13. (122) Joe Flacco
(Bal - QB)
14. (139) Marcedes Lewis
(Jac - TE)
15. (142) New Orleans
(NO - DEF)

GeorgeFeeney Bristow
1. (3) Andre Johnson
(Hou - WR)
2. (1Cool Frank Gore
(SF - RB)
3. (23) Dez Bryant
(Dal - WR)
4. (3Cool Dallas Clark
(TB - TE)
5. (43) Green Bay
(GB - DEF)
6. (5Cool Neil Rackers
(Was - K)
7. (63) Matt Schaub
(Hou - QB)
8. (7Cool Joseph Addai
(NE - RB)
9. (83) Owen Daniels
(Hou - TE)
10. (9Cool Ben Roethlisberger
(Pit - QB)
11. (103) Stevie Johnson
(Buf - WR)
12. (118) Fred Jackson
(Buf - RB)
13. (123) Mike Sims-Walker
(Jac - WR)
14. (138) Darren Sproles
(NO - RB)
15. (143) Dallas
(Dal - DEF)

cc9
1. (4) LeSean McCoy
(Phi - RB)
2. (17) Tom Brady
(NE - QB)
3. (24) Dwayne Bowe
(KC - WR)
4. (37) Jahvid Best
(Det - RB)
5. (44) Jimmy Graham
(NO - TE)
6. (57) Julio Jones
(Atl - WR)
7. (64) Stephen Gostkowski
(NE - K)
8. (77) Ben Tate
(Hou - RB)
9. (84) A.J. Green
(Cin - WR)
10. (97) Sidney Rice
(Sea - WR)
11. (104) San Diego
(SD - DEF)
12. (117) Mike Williams
(TB - WR)
13. (124) Sam Bradford
(StL - QB)
14. (137) Jermaine Gresham
(Cin - TE)
15. (144) Alex Green
(GB - RB)

dominators
1. (5) Philip Rivers
(SD - QB)
2. (16) Steven Jackson
(StL - RB)
3. (25) DeAngelo Williams
(Car - RB)
4. (36) Anquan Boldin
(Bal - WR)
5. (45) Ryan Mathews
(SD - RB)
6. (56) Santana Moss
(Was - WR)
7. (65) Darren McFadden
(Oak - RB)
8. (76) New York
(NYG - DEF)
9. (85) Brandon Pettigrew
(Det - TE)
10. (96) Jonathan Stewart
(Car - RB)
11. (105) Malcom Floyd
(SD - WR)
12. (116) Mario Manningham
(SF - WR)
13. (125) Johnny Knox
(Chi - WR)
14. (136) LaDainian Tomlinson
(SD - RB)
15. (145) Rob Bironas
(Ten - K)

Team J
1. (6) Aaron Rodgers
(GB - QB)
2. (15) Greg Jennings
(GB - WR)
3. (26) Brandon Marshall
(Chi - WR)
4. (35) Tim Hightower
(Was - RB)
5. (46) Ray Rice
(Bal - RB)
6. (55) Marques Colston
(NO - WR)
7. (66) Percy Harvin
(Min - WR)
8. (75) James Starks
(GB - RB)
9. (86) Eli Manning
(NYG - QB)
10. (95) Jamaal Charles
(KC - RB)
11. (106) Kellen Winslow
(Sea - TE)
12. (115) LeGarrette Blount
(TB - RB)
13. (126) Michael Crabtree
(SF - WR)
14. (135) Chicago
(Chi - DEF)
15. (146) Alex Henery
(Phi - K)

Maximus
1. (7) Larry Fitzgerald
(Ari - WR)
2. (14) Hakeem Nicks
(NYG - WR)
3. (27) Mark Ingram
(NO - RB)
4. (34) Mike Tolbert
(Car - RB)
5. (47) Philadelphia
(Phi - DEF)
6. (54) Nate Kaeding
(SD - K)
7. (67) Knowshon Moreno
(Den - RB)
8. (74) Matthew Stafford
(Det - QB)
9. (87) Ryan Grant
(GB - RB)
10. (94) Vernon Davis
(SF - TE)
11. (107) Donovan McNabb
(Min - QB)
12. (114) Chad Johnson
(Mia - WR)
13. (127) Lance Moore
(NO - WR)
14. (134) Jared Cook
(Ten - TE)
15. (147) San Francisco
(SF - DEF)

Gregor Jones
1. (Cool Maurice Jones-Drew
(Jac - RB)
2. (13) Matt Forte
(Chi - RB)
3. (2Cool Antonio Gates
(SD - TE)
4. (33) Santonio Holmes
(NYJ - WR)
5. (4Cool Austin Collie
(Ind - WR)
6. (53) Ahmad Bradshaw
(NYG - RB)
7. (6Cool Reggie Bush
(Mia - RB)
8. (73) Michael Bush
(Chi - RB)
9. (8Cool Plaxico Burress
(NYJ - WR)
10. (93) Baltimore
(Bal - DEF)
11. (108) Michael Vick
(Phi - QB)
12. (113) Vincent Jackson
(TB - WR)
13. (128) Dexter McCluster
(KC - WR,RB)
14. (133) Jay Cutler
(Chi - QB)
15. (148) Adam Vinatieri
(Ind - K)

HangOnSloopy
1. (9) Calvin Johnson
(Det - WR)
2. (12) Drew Brees
(NO - QB)
3. (29) Beanie Wells
(Ari - RB)
4. (32) Jermichael Finley
(GB - TE)
5. (49) Pittsburgh
(Pit - DEF)
6. (52) Mason Crosby
(GB - K)
7. (69) Marshawn Lynch
(Sea - RB)
8. (72) Rashard Mendenhall
(Pit - RB)
9. (89) Josh Freeman
(TB - QB)
10. (92) Miles Austin
(Dal - WR)
11. (109) Danny Amendola
(StL - WR)
12. (112) Peyton Hillis
(KC - RB)
13. (129) Jerome Harrison
(Det - RB)
14. (132) Greg Olsen
(Car - TE)
15. (149) Garrett Hartley
(NO - K)

Carson4MVP
1. (10) Roddy White
(Atl - WR)
2. (11) Michael Turner
(Atl - RB)
3. (30) Peyton Manning
(Den - QB)
4. (31) Arian Foster
(Hou - RB)
5. (50) Jason Witten
(Dal - TE)
6. (51) Kenny Britt
(Ten - WR)
7. (70) Mike Wallace
(Pit - WR)
8. (71) Pierre Thomas
(NO - RB)
9. (90) Kevin Kolb
(Ari - QB)
10. (91) Daniel Thomas
(Mia - RB)
11. (110) Braylon Edwards
(Sea - WR)
12. (111) Roy Helu
(Was - RB)
13. (130) Detroit
(Det - DEF)
14. (131) Jordy Nelson
(GB - WR)
15. (150) David Buehler
(Dal - K)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final post

When is everyone available to draft? Right now it's scheduled for the 1st of Sept (Sat night), 7 PM EST.

I'm inclined to leave it there if we can get at least 6-7 people there live.
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Oh, and i need those four in Red above to sign up still. If you didn't get an email, PM me your email address (i won't spam you) so i can send you the invite. It has to be done that way so you can take over a certain team.

And it seems that Yahoo has some fancy keeper tool this year. So ahead and designate keepers using that, but still post them here. I still have to do some work to get them in the right spots in the draft.
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Gronk for a 12th rounder. Yes please
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ochocinco4pres wrote:
Gronk for a 12th rounder. Yes please


Your team has some good keepers. Lloyd, Steve Smith, Gronk. Nice work.
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theJ wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Gronk for a 12th rounder. Yes please


Your team has some good keepers. Lloyd, Steve Smith, Gronk. Nice work.


Yeah I was happy to see those guys were on my team. Especially for the rounds I got them in. I have been terrible in this league so far. Lets hope this year changes my luck
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Miles Austin - 8th
Marshawn Lynch - 5th
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And I thought the draft was better where you had it J. On the Th night before Labor day weekend. That is the first Saturday of College Football.
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HangOnSloopy wrote:
And I thought the draft was better where you had it J. On the Th night before Labor day weekend. That is the first Saturday of College Football.


It was okay, but the last preseason games are that night. I'd hate to have someone draft someone and they're season be wiped out 5 minutes later.

Unless no one cares about that, in which case i'll change it back.
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theJ wrote:
HangOnSloopy wrote:
And I thought the draft was better where you had it J. On the Th night before Labor day weekend. That is the first Saturday of College Football.


It was okay, but the last preseason games are that night. I'd hate to have someone draft someone and they're season be wiped out 5 minutes later.

Unless no one cares about that, in which case i'll change it back.


Nope, that's a very good point J. I didn't realize that. Whenever the draft ends up I'll do my best to be there. Just a busy weekend.
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I haven't had much time to get on to post lately, let alone enough time to try to actively keep up with this. So if anyone else on the forum would like to take my spot, I'd be willing to give it to someone who may be a little more active than what I will be going forward. If we near the draft, and no one has taken the offer, I'll gladly stay in the league with you fellas.
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maximus7913 wrote:
I haven't had much time to get on to post lately, let alone enough time to try to actively keep up with this. So if anyone else on the forum would like to take my spot, I'd be willing to give it to someone who may be a little more active than what I will be going forward. If we near the draft, and no one has taken the offer, I'll gladly stay in the league with you fellas.


Sorry to see you go. You've been a mainstay. Didn't you win it one year? Maybe before we started doing it on Yahoo?

You all heard the man. First come, first served. (you must post in this thread)
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I am available to draft any evening other than Tuesdays. Saturday night sounds good, I can draft as I watch College Football.
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