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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's weird, but the receivers were one of the positives today, for once. I'm not going to overrate them too much, seeing as it was only a preseason game, and Justin King was starting... But still, bravo on their parts. Kendricks and Pettis looked stronger, Givens can flat out fly, Steve Smith looked like his old self, even Pead looked like he is pretty comfortable playing a role as a receiving running back.


The offensive line had some issues, and I think most of it was communication and getting used to the new scheme. No one really seemed like they were on the same page. It was 5 individuals doing their job, but unfortunately there were one or two not doing their job at a given time. All it takes is one guy to get in the backfield to disrupt the whole play. These guys need to learn to play better as a unit.


Defense was pretty spotty. Jenkins is going to be a monster, can't wait to see more out of him. Langford and Brockers looked like they might finally be the DT tandem fans have been looking for. Long and Quinn looked awesome. Murphy was playing great, I thought Mikell did a fine job, JL, Rocky, and Dunbarr looked pretty good too. But once again...they didn't seem to click as a unit. That's how things like slip screens for TD's happen. I think it's the fact that really only Long and JL are the only ones out there that actually have a rapport on the field. Everyone else is just brand new, and getting used to not only the system, but being on the field with one another. Give them time, they should click. I have no doubt that the talent is there.


Backups...I'm kinda nervous in that department. No one really stood out to me today besides Davis, a couple receivers, and #36, the RB, forgot his name... But other than that, I hope the starters stay healthy.

As for cuts, I see Richardson, Pointer, and perhaps even Craig Dahl being cut very soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Backups...I'm kinda nervous in that department. No one really stood out to me today besides Davis, a couple receivers, and #36, the RB, forgot his name... But other than that, I hope the starters stay healthy.

As for cuts, I see Richardson, Pointer, and perhaps even Craig Dahl being cut very soon.


That RB was probably Middleton. He was surprisingly effective late in the game. Pretty much bowls over anyone in front of him.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw some good and bad today. i think the team needed something like this to happen today to make them better. i do agree with everyone on not showing our hand today and i hope we continue not doing so till the season.

The Good: i was impressed with givens speed. Something no one has said so far our special teams was good. hekker pinned them inside the ten and greg nailed a field goal down the middle.. austin davis making some good plays. looks like he might pass up tom brandstater if he keeps it up. pettis was making some nice grabs.

The Bad: We looked lost on both sides of the ball at certain points of the game. The O line looked the same but i have faith still that they can get better when scott wells gets back. we arent taking enough shots past 5 or 6 yards again. kinda wanted to see more returns from pead and jenkins but they didnt have the opportunities to really do anything. Something i noticed while watching is that our play calling is a bit conservative. i know jeff is known for that but i feel like bradford wants to take shots down the field and they only gave him a few shots at it which he doesnt always complete.

all in all i think we played okay. some of the things we could have done some things better but its preseason this isnt the end of the world and from what i was seeing was a little concerning but i have a good feeling about this team. just need time to gel a little bit better.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janoris Jenkins really impressed me today. I wanted to see more of him on ST, but i guess it wasn't meant to happen. I was a little concerned with the hits Bradford was taking. For someone who is coming back from a nasty injury, he should not be getting hit the way he was today. This can't keep happening, which means the offensive line will need to get it together soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets go offensive line. Scott Wells get in there. It is going to take time to gel. Chemistry isn't going to come overnight.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rams4eva92 wrote:
Lets go offensive line. Scott Wells get in there. It is going to take time to gel. Chemistry isn't going to come overnight.
LT-Rodger Saffold
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RG-Harvey Dahl
RT- Jason Smith
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4

But seriously, team looked sloppy today. It's the preseason, I don't care about results. I care about how individuals players play. Givens really looked great to me. I was very happy with his performance. Brockers seemed to be every bit the run stopper that he was advertised as. He was a rock in the middle.

Still, I expect to see a lot of improvement. If this team plays this way Week 1, we have issues and are in for a terrible year. Also, I will cry if Craig Dahl starts this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4

But seriously, team looked sloppy today. It's the preseason, I don't care about results. I care about how individuals players play. Givens really looked great to me. I was very happy with his performance. Brockers seemed to be every bit the run stopper that he was advertised as. He was a rock in the middle.

Still, I expect to see a lot of improvement. If this team plays this way Week 1, we have issues and are in for a terrible year. Also, I will cry if Craig Dahl starts this year.


Haha I posted the same clip and I think we'll see a different group next week. I think a lot of this is testing players and how they do as individuals. Once we get the group down in the next week or so you'll see a more chemistried team.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Things I liked

Jason Smith & Rok Watkins- Smith seemed to be mauling when I was keyed in on him, looked better then he did last year & 10x better then Richardson. He ate Freeney for dinner on a run, which Rok pulled very well on. I also think the Hughes sack was offside and Smith was confused. Thought Rok played solid as well.


Despite Rok coming in out of shape, the guy still shows up big time on the field. I love the way he plays. I think he has a bright future if he wants it.

Smith drives me nuts. I saw him blow an assignment today which allowed Clemens get blown up. I'm tired of his mental lapses.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's a preseason game, but the defense looked like crap (as usual) and the offense was terrible (as usual). Like I said before any of this stuff, I'm just hoping we can win 4 games this season. Our team is really that bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder how our line will be come week one? i know it looked bad today but i think we can snag a few players off of other teams squads and hopefully mold them into something that wont let sam get destroyed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CalifornianRam wrote:
i wonder how our line will be come week one? i know it looked bad today but i think we can snag a few players off of other teams squads and hopefully mold them into something that wont let sam get destroyed.
Doubt it, useful lineman dont come through on roster cuts very often. Maybe a decent backup Guard (who could start for us at LG right now) but nothing more.

It nice to see some guys you can pick up from roster cuts, but if you are looking for a savior in those guys, you will be majorly disappointed.



Like someone pointed out, It looked like 5 guys out there just trying to stick to their assignments, and that is the worst way for an OL to play. It needs to be a cohesive unit, acting as one at all times.

As many technical mistakes, and blown assignments Jason Smith has made, and seems likely to continue to make, he is worlds better than anyone else we have to play that spot (sans Harvey, who needs to stay at Guard) His extraordinary physical abilities make up for many of his deficiencies, and he is able to be not terrible out there.

Getting Wells in there will be the biggest thing obviously, but settling on a LG to give the line stability and give the unit a chance to gel will be big as well. Its pretty obvious after the first series yesterday that the Richardson move was almost purely as a motivational ploy for Smith.
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I only watched the 1st half, because thats all I needed to. But those that are all screaming that the sky is falling, I thank you for the amusement. Apparently you all have forgotten this is the PRESEASON. (Not necessarily many here, just Rams fans in general)To take anything out of games, as a whole, is just foolish. Coaches, good ones at least, are calling plays to be able to see things about the players/units. Not to win.

Chuck Pagano pulled a Spags last night, trying to win a preseason game. Which when you think about it is so ridiculous; It doesnt count for anything, and you are pulling out all your tricks already when you dont need to. When you watch what the Rams were doing, it was so vanilla on both sides of the ball, we clearly werent looking to win.


Offense
Breaking these down by individuals, because thats all you can do, Sam looked good. It seemed mostly to just get him back out there, make sure he was getting comfortable in the pocket, and to show him that his ankle is just fine as long as he plays his game. I didnt see a single thing that I had worries about from Sam. Sorry he only stayed in for 2 series and wasnt trying to be an All-Pro in a preseason game.

The running game wasnt a good as it should be, but there were alot of factors aiding that. Steven looked like Steven, but a leaner shiftier one to me. I noticed this in TC. Not only does he look leaner, he also looks to be wearing smaller pads. I wouldnt expect as much bruising running as he used to do, and I like that. He still can, and likely will when needed, but to prolong his career he will likely become a slightly different type of back. (which is what the league has moved to anyway) I actually loved what I saw from Isaiah Pead. Guy has some go, showed some great vision, and his wiggle is obvious. He was just playing outside himself, which is completely normal for a rookie. I guess some expected him to walk in and be Chris Johnson.

The offensive line was a mess, but they werent terrible. Big difference in those two things. They werent playing as a unit, which is what causes all the missed assignments and wrong double teams. But as far as they go individually, they didnt play too bad. Saffold handled his side of the line like we know he can. Nothing spectacular, just workman like and you dont hear from him. Ojinaka may be able to pass block well, but he sure cant Run block. Guy was not good looking out there, just seemed overmatched by the DTs, which is why he is a OT not a Guard. This experiment is likely short lived. Robert Turner whiffed multiple times and was on his hands and knees after alot of plays. That is why he is a backup, but I wouldnt be shocked to see someone like Tim Barnes, who seemed to have control over the line calls, beat him out as the backup Center. Harvey Dahl is still a monster, I love just about everything this guy does. There were multiple times you could visibly see his frustration with Barry Richardson to his right, who was just Awful. There was absolutely nothing redeeming about his performance yesterday, probably the only guy I watched that I can say that about. Ive gone over Jason Smith's day many times already, Ill just sum it up as this: Same old Stuff- Athletic freak/ scary mauling run blocker, but technically unsound and not up to speed on the understanding/communication side. He needs to be the starting RT though, we dont have a better option. Im hoping maybe more time to be with Dahl/Wells will help him out a bit and cover up some of his blemishes. Rok Watckins was very much like Smith, but as a guard you can get away with that type of play. Great mauler inside, but not a great pass blocker. He handled his man just fine, but when they would stunt he was having trouble picking it up. When they had Smith/Rok leading the run it was devastating (for them, not us just to make that clear)

The receivers showed me alot, but with only 2 series with Sam under center its hard to take anything they do with Clemens as useful information. Steve Smith is looking like his old self, I still think he is the #1 WR on this squad for the entire year. Amendola is still the slot magician, and looks ready to roll again (contract year, probably going to make some money this year) Was surprised to see Pettis getting work with the 1s, especially after all the love Greg Salas has got so far. And where was he in this game? Givens has got some SPEED, like legit take the top off speed. He is going to be a deadly weapon for Sam, even as a decoy for those Safeties to stay honest. Brian Quick’s length is going to be real nice, guy just snatches the ball too. Also a damn good run blocker on the outside. Lance is back to his old tricks, lets hope he figures out how to carry it over to when it actually counts

Defense
On that screen pass, everyone was pretty much doin their own thing. Bad play all around, but those are bound to happen. They were clearly overzealous to be out there and trying to hit someone. The D-line looked good. Brockers and Langford are the real deal at DT, both were blowing up the middle of the line and collapsing the pocket. Chris Long was there just about every pass play again, and actually looked to be anchoring and playing run first, then making his move to the QB- good progress. Quinn's speed off the edge is deadly, we just need him not to over do it every down and keep contain. When we do let him loose though, we need that Backer staying home to be the contain man.

The LBs were so-so, nothing great, but I did notice that we need them to be speedy this year. Laurinaitis is clearly the leader/QB of the D, but I hope they switch up the outside guys and go with Dunbar & McIntosh. Let Jo-Lonn be the Sam, even though he is a bit undersized, and have Rocky as the will. Speed is the new game for LBs and those two have it, not so much for Haggin.

Janoris is going to be damn good, & Finnegan just needs to be himself, stop trying to do too much. My Boy! Jerome Murphy! Dude was killin it at Safety, right up there around the ball the whole time, sticking his nose in the line. I said it 2 years ago, I think his future is at FS. Speaking of our Free Safeties, Craig Dahl is bad, he needs to go now. Mikell seemed slow to me, he doesnt seem comfortable with the Cover 2 elements we installed. Pretty much the same deficiencies that Dahl has, with more natural talent to make up for it. Wouldnt be shocked to see alot of Stewart/Murphy as the Safety combo this year.

Greg Zuerlein is a nice addition, and I was pleasantly surprised with Hekkers leg as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Nice write up. I agree with most of it.

Quinn speed off the edge looks absolutely deadly. The D line is going to be a beast this year.
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Good to hear about Murphy, I missed the first few series. He also looked good as the nickel back to me. Hopefully he'll be a breakout player for us this year. I didn't see Fletcher or Salas play. Might be related to old injuries and not wanting to push it this early on.

And yea, I made the same comment. Pagano is a rookie coach, he's treating the preseason like Spags did. Fisher treats it like Dungy did. He doesn't care if he wins. It's not about results, it's about evaluating players and individual match-ups.
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