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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Take Your Pick ACC Edition Reply with quote

Lets get some discussion going on. Spring Practices are complete, and we are less that four months from the start of the season.

I am going to go through all of the major conferences, and post some questions for the upcoming season. We are going to start off with the ACC Conference.



Question 1:Who is the favorite in the Coastal Division?
Last Year was an awful year in the division with three teams being tied at the top with 5-3 records, and 6-6 Georgia Tech being declared champion because both Miami and North Carolina were ineligible for the ACC Championship.

There is no clear favorite this year.
-Miami brings back their top QB, RB, top 3 receivers, and their big LT Seantrel Henderson. Their defense is young, but Al Golden has brought in tons of talent, and DE Anthony Chickillo is a serious All-American Candidate.

-North Carolina did lose some top talent in Bernard, Cooper, Highsmith, Riddick, and Williams, but they are still led by QB Bryn Renner, and still has quality guys at the skill positions. DE Kareem Martin and S Tre Boston will lead a defense that brings back just 4 of their top 10 tacklers from 2012.

-Virginia Tech has their worst season in years last year, but its safe to say that coach Frank Beamer will have this team ready in 2013. The team will go on the success of QB Logan Thomas, a guy that was thought of as a potential #1 pick last year, but struggled for most of 2012. The team should have back 7 starters on both sides of the ball.

-The reigning champs, Georgia Tech, might have their most experienced team under Paul Johnson. 16 total starters are back. On offense, QB Vad Lee is the key. He did not start a game last year, but he did play signifigant time, and scored 9 rushing TDs. He could develop into a major weapon. The defense is led by All Conference end, Jeremiah Attaochu.

Question 2:Which coach is on the biggest hot seat?
I believe that there are a number of coaches that could have their jobs taken away from them this year, if they do not have their teams performing up to supposed standards, but which one do you think is the most likely to be fired?

-Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson might be highest on the list. He burst onto the ACC scene with a offense that could not be stopped. He won 20 games in his first two years, won a ACC Championship, and led his Tech team to the Orange Bowl. The past three years have been a different story. During that time, he has compiled a 21-19 record, and he has lost four straight times to rival Georgia. He also has been ridiculed for his recruiting in the talent rich state of Georgia. According to 247, he has only had one top 50 recruiting class in the past three years. His 2011 class ranked #49.

-Al Golden is thought of as one of the best coaching minds in all of college football, and he knew that he would have a tough time rebuilding a once great program at Miami, although, he might not have known that it would be as hard as it has been the past two years with NCAA sanctions hanging over his head. He has done a great job of bringing in talent, and the 2013 season might be the year that is shows on the field, and he might need a very good year if the boosters and administrators want results now. I personally believe he is safe, but a 13-11(8-Cool record wont be tolerated much longer, no matter what sanctions that program has.

-The Virginia program was thought to be on the upswing after the 2011 season. The team finished 8-5, and just missed the division title after falling to in state rivals, Virginia Tech, but the program took a big step back last year when they finished last in the division, and only accumulated 4 total wins. Mike London does seem like he is a good coach despite his 16-21 record over the past three years, and it does seem like he has brought the talent level to a point that hasnt been seen since the Herman Moore days, but the results have to be seen on the field. The number of team wins will be important this year, but recruiting might be even more important since this might be the best year ever for top prospects in the state of Virginia. IF he can get a couple of the top prospects to come to Charlottesville, he should be able to get another year or two despite a losing record.

-Jim Grobe might be the greatest coach in the history of the Wake Forest football program, but could he be a victim of his own success? The previous 11 Demon Deacon head coaches have a combined record of 179-344-11, and combined for one conference championship in 1970. Grobe has one ACC Championship, five bowl appearances, and three bowl wins in his twelve years at Wake. The team has fallen on hard times of late. Since the 2008 season when the team won eight games and won the Eaglebank Bowl, he has a combined record of 19-30, is only 12-20 in conference games, and only has one bowl appearance. Expectations are never high for the football program at Wake Forest, but if Jim Grobe doesnt give a respectable season, then he might be fired because of his own success during the last decade.

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Who is the third best team in the ACC Atlantic?
Clemson and Florida State seem to be the class of the division, but who will end up third? Maryland with breakout star Stephon Diggs? North Carolina State and their first year coach Dave Doern? Conference newcomer Syracuse? BC and Steve Addazio? or Wake Forest and their talented trio of Tanner Price, Michael Campanaro, and Orville Reynolds?

If Tajh Boyd doesnt win ACC Offensive POY, then who does?
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virginia Tech
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miami will win the coastal. 20 returning starters, a schedule that doesn't have us leave Florida once until November, and our game against VT at home.

I expect a double digit win season.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are my answers:

1.I think that Miami is the favorite right now, but I would bump Va Tech up to the spot, depending on Thomas. If he plays up to half of his potential, then I could see them winning the division. North Carolina might have the best offense in the division, but I think their defense is going to need a little work. Georgia Tech is definitely 4th. They have returning starters, and a gimmick scheme, but they just dont have much talent.

2.I think Paul Johnson is on the biggest hot seat. He is getting run over by rival Georgia, and he cannot even recruit his own state. Teams have figured out his offense enough to beat Tech. The team has already fired multiple defensive coordinators, so Johnson is next on the chopping block. Another 6-6 season in 2013 gets him fired.

3.For some reason I think that Maryland will turn the corner in Edsall's third season. They lost 4 games by 7 points or less, and they were killed by injuries all year long. Stephon Diggs is going to come out in a big way after getting over 1700 yards last year.

4.Im going with Stephen Morris. If Miami is going to win their division and maybe even the conference then Morris is going to have to take a huge step forward. He has a great back behind him, and a couple good receivers, so I think he could surprise some people.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeezy Fanatic wrote:
Miami will win the coastal. 20 returning starters, a schedule that doesn't have us leave Florida once until November, and our game against VT at home.

I expect a double digit win season.


You are exaggerating a bit there. 8 projected starters on offense started 5 or more games. The others are 3 or less. I wouldnt call them returning starters.

On defense, you have 3 player that started double digit games last year, three that started 5-7, and three that didnt start a single game. The other two started a total of 5.

I would say you have 14 returning starters(ones that started 5 games or more).
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeezy Fanatic wrote:
Miami will win the coastal. 20 returning starters, a schedule that doesn't have us leave Florida once until November, and our game against VT at home.

I expect a double digit win season.
I'm hoping for double digit wins, but I am expecting a 9 win season.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMG wrote:
Jeezy Fanatic wrote:
Miami will win the coastal. 20 returning starters, a schedule that doesn't have us leave Florida once until November, and our game against VT at home.

I expect a double digit win season.
I'm hoping for double digit wins, but I am expecting a 9 win season.


I figure 9, and a bowl win. Looking at the schedule and knowing Miami I'd expect losses to UF, FSU, and one random non-VT ACC team.
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Virginia Tech will coast through the coastal
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1. Miami
2. Virginia Tech
3. North Carolina
4. Pittsburgh
5. Virginia
6. Georgia Tech
7. Duke

1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. Syracuse
4. NC State
5. Maryland
6. Boston College
7. Wake Forest

POY: Tajh Boyd (Runner up: Duke Johnson)
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1 - Miami, and I don't think it will be that close either. Bookend tackles in Bunche on the left and Henderson on the right will be hard to get pressure on. They only have 1 tough road game @ FSU too.

VTech could be there..... if Logan Thomas could learn how to throw a forward pass.

Outside of those 2, I don't see any other teams being too much of a challenge.

2 - Paul Chryst. I get he's coaching arguably the 3rd best program in the state of PA, but apparently the team hates him (See: Shell leaving), and outside of Dorian Johnson decomitting from PSU due to the sanctions he's hasn't recruited and kept much of anyone of note. Now Pitt players are getting arrested by SWAT teams too, Chryst has lost all control of that program. At least for Chryst there aren't any FCS teams to lose by 2 scores to this year.

3 - Yeah, I agree with Maryland being here. Couple Diggs with Deon Long (Who, IMO, will be the NFL by this time next year) and UMD has one of, if not the top starting WR corps in the ACC. Plus this year they won't have a LB starting at QB either.

4 - Maybe Duke Johnson. Sammy Watkins? Diggs? I dunno, I just feel like if Boyd doesn't win it then one of the conferences high profile skill guys will.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Take Your Pick ACC Edition Reply with quote

devils1854 wrote:
There is no clear favorite this year.
Agreed. Miami, North Carolina, and Virginia Tech could all finish in any of the top three slots.
devils1854 wrote:
-Miami brings back their top QB, RB, top 3 receivers, and their big LT Seantrel Henderson. Their defense is young, but Al Golden has brought in tons of talent, and DE Anthony Chickillo is a serious All-American Candidate.
Miami's top seven lineman return, of that group Henderson is no better than third best and he plays RT. He's just the biggest name due to his high school ranking and drama that surrounded him. I love Chick, but he's not an All-American candidate, he'd be lucky to make the All-ACC first team. He might sneak onto the second team since the league lost some good DEs.
devils1854 wrote:
If Tajh Boyd doesnt win ACC Offensive POY, then who does?
Stephen Morris, Bryn Renner, and Vlad Lee are some of the potential candidates.
If not Boyd I'd think Sammy Watkins has a good shot, especially if he returns kicks this year. If Miami wins 9 or 10 games, Stephen Morris has a shot.
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Virginia Tech will coast through the coastal
Did you see see Logan Thomas play last season? Did you see he played even worse than that in the spring game? Virginia Tech may find a way to win the division, but they're not going to coast through it.
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1 - Miami, and I don't think it will be that close either. Bookend tackles in Bunche on the left and Henderson on the right will be hard to get pressure on. They only have 1 tough road game @ FSU too.
Bunche has been replaced at LT by Ereck Flowers. He's been playing almost exclusively at guard in the spring. He may rotate with Feliciano at LG, or perhaps win the spot outright in the fall.

I'd say @North Carolina is also a tough game. North Carolina is a good team with a good QB and has seemingly had Miami's number, posting a winning record vs. the 'Canes since Miami joined the ACC.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Take Your Pick ACC Edition Reply with quote

cp0k2 wrote:
Bunche has been replaced at LT by Ereck Flowers. He's been playing almost exclusively at guard in the spring. He may rotate with Feliciano at LG, or perhaps win the spot outright in the fall.


Oh that's his name! Ugh, I thought a Flowers was starting at LT for Miami but I couldn't remember his first name, when I looked up "Flowers Miami football" all I got was Brandon Flowers, so I just punched in Bunche

Yeah, thanks for the heads up on that, completely forgot that haha.
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cp0k2 wrote:
devils1854 wrote:
There is no clear favorite this year.
Agreed. Miami, North Carolina, and Virginia Tech could all finish in any of the top three slots.
devils1854 wrote:
-Miami brings back their top QB, RB, top 3 receivers, and their big LT Seantrel Henderson. Their defense is young, but Al Golden has brought in tons of talent, and DE Anthony Chickillo is a serious All-American Candidate.
Miami's top seven lineman return, of that group Henderson is no better than third best and he plays RT. He's just the biggest name due to his high school ranking and drama that surrounded him. I love Chick, but he's not an All-American candidate, he'd be lucky to make the All-ACC first team. He might sneak onto the second team since the league lost some good DEs.


I admit I didnt watch a lot of Henderson this year, but I heard from a number of Miami fans that Henderson was very good this past year. I meant to put RT, but for some reason hit the L.

Chickillo is majorly talented. 9 sacks and 13 tfl through his first two years at the school. I think he is ready for a major breakout this year.

Him, Gayle from VT, Martin from NC, Attaochu from GT, Beasley from CU, and Bishop from NCSU should be the best DEs in the league this year, and I dont think any are as "talented" as him. Maybe the only other end that is as talented is Edwards from FSU.
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Jeezy Fanatic wrote:
Miami will win the coastal. 20 returning starters, a schedule that doesn't have us leave Florida once until November, and our game against VT at home.

I expect a double digit win season.

I like Miami to be an improved team but it's not as if there aren't question marks and the schedule certainly isn't easy. Playing Florida at home in week two is no gimme and having to go @UNC on a thursday night, @Florida State and a trap game to end the season @Pitt on a short week. I do think they have a good chance to win 9+ games, but the schedule isn't as easy as I think some people assume it is.

I think that Va. Tech is going to be much improved this year. They are solid on all three levels in the defense with leaders like James Gayle, Jack Taylor and Kyle Fuller on all three levels. Offensively is where I have question marks but the schedule sets up very nicely, avoiding both Florida State and Clemson. There are some tricky games but if they can beat UNC at home and win @Miami the rest of the ACC schedule is very nice. I wonder about the offense. Do they have the skill position talent and can they replace the three starters they lost on the offensive line? A lot rests on Logan Thomas. If he's much improved (which is a possibility) then VT might be the class of the ACC.

Duke Johnson is incredibly talented and I think he has a case for offensive player of the year if he has a huge season like I think he will. He and Stefon Diggs are incredibly versatile and dynamic offensive players.
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devils1854 wrote:
I admit I didnt watch a lot of Henderson this year, but I heard from a number of Miami fans that Henderson was very good this past year. I meant to put RT, but for some reason hit the L.

Chickillo is majorly talented. 9 sacks and 13 tfl through his first two years at the school. I think he is ready for a major breakout this year.

Him, Gayle from VT, Martin from NC, Attaochu from GT, Beasley from CU, and Bishop from NCSU should be the best DEs in the league this year, and I dont think any are as "talented" as him. Maybe the only other end that is as talented is Edwards from FSU.

Henderson is the most talented player on Miami's line but he hasn't developed into an elite player. He very well could (though he had some struggles in the spring) this season. He was much improved last season, he's not a bad player by any means. But Ereck Flowers, just a notch below Henderson in talent, plays nasty and with better technique. He's had a monster offseason so far and should be a first round draft pick in a year or two. Jon Feliciano in my opinion was Miami's best lineman last season. he dropped some weight and settled in at LG instead of bouncing around between guard and tackle. He was very active and keyed many of Miami's big plays with second and third level blocks. He's been hurt in the spring and Bunche has taken his spot for the time being. But I would put those two guys ahead of Henderson in terms of how well they play.

I disagree with Chik being as talented as anyone in the conference. He's more of a high effort guy with decent talent in my opinion. He added weight last year and it really affected his mobility. He's looked much more comfortable being heavier this spring, but I just can't put him into elite company unless he shows it. I'd love for him to have a huge breakout year, I just don't see it. Especially with the lack of quality starters and depth on Miami's line to take pressure off of him.
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