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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:54 pm    Post subject: Texas, Florida or California Reply with quote

Which state produces the best football talent?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
Florida

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
South Florida

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida. Not even close.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could field like 10 teams of just the talent that comes out of south beach.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RollEagles wrote:
Florida. Not even close.
Current players in the NFL

California - 224
Florida - 186
Texas - 147

Heisman trophy winners:

California - 14
Texas - 9
Florida - 2

NFL Hall of Famers

California - 32
Texas - 23
Florida - 10


Yea, it's close.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texasmade wrote:
RollEagles wrote:
Florida. Not even close.
Current players in the NFL

California - 224
Florida - 186
Texas - 147

Heisman trophy winners:

California - 14
Texas - 9
Florida - 2

NFL Hall of Famers

California - 32
Texas - 23
Florida - 10


Yea, it's close.


Population:
California - 38 Million
Texas - 27 Million
Florida - 20 Million

NFL Players Per Capita:
California - 7.18
Texas - 8.93
Florida - 12.92
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

California produces the best athletes period

Most NFL players
Most NBA players
Most MLB players(something crazy like a third of of all US born players)
Most Olympians(something even more crazy like 40%)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheesehead430 wrote:
Texasmade wrote:
RollEagles wrote:
Florida. Not even close.
Current players in the NFL

California - 224
Florida - 186
Texas - 147

Heisman trophy winners:

California - 14
Texas - 9
Florida - 2

NFL Hall of Famers

California - 32
Texas - 23
Florida - 10


Yea, it's close.


Population:
California - 38 Million
Texas - 27 Million
Florida - 20 Million

NFL Players Per Capita:
California - 7.18
Texas - 8.93
Florida - 12.92
Per capita arguments are pointless. More elite football players come out or have come out of California than anywhere else in the country. The fact that it's spread out over a larger land mass, amongst a higher population is irrelevant. If it were relevant, Georgia and Louisiana would win this going away.

Having said all that, you missed my point. Thinking Florida has the best talent in the contential US is fine. Its certainly a reasonable argument. However, thinking it's "not close" is potato.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected. Those numbers definitely change things.

However, I strongly disagree that per capita statistics in this case are irrelevant.

California has about 12 million more people than Texas (the 2nd most populous state). Texas' population is around 26 million. That's incredibly significant. And even though Florida has the 3rd highest population, it's still only half the population of California. You have to adjust for population if you want to analyze this beyond the elementary school statistical game of "which number is bigger".

What Louisiana and Georgia have produced is incredibly impressive.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the per capita numbers are really that relevant...

The question in the OP is "Who produces the BEST football talent?" The question isn't "who produces the MOST?" Clearly California is a more populated state than any other, so they likely produce more players. Because this question is largely subjective (it's hard to place value on "the best"), I don't think we can ever come to a legitimately answer.

However, the only thing I will say is that the trend right now suggests Florida is producing better football players than California. IMHO.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RollEagles wrote:
What Louisiana and Georgia have produced is incredibly impressive.


Almost posted that LA and GA should get honorable mention. Specifically New Orleans in LA, nice talent coming out of there from schools like Edna Karr and John Curtis. And the Gwinnett counties in GA are stocked.

And per capita matters here in my opinion. Think of it from a recruiting standpoint, and South Florida is pretty much Nirvana. Go to Dade and Broward counties alone and you can field a team full of elite prospects. In Cali to field a team that could compete with the South FL team you would need to hit San Mateo, Los Angeles County, Ventura, Oakland, Riverside, Palo Alto, etc... all over the place. The concentration isn't there.

South Florida is the top producer of college football talent in my book.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
California produces the best athletes period

Most NFL players
Most NBA players
Most MLB players(something crazy like a third of of all US born players)
Most Olympians(something even more crazy like 40%)


well yea, no crap, it's the biggest state and by far (although texas is obviously growing extremely fast)

the best way to do this is per capita. and i didn't do the numbers, but if cheesehead's are right, it's florida by far.

it would be interesting if someone did a study on most pro athletes per capita by state. i wouldn't be suprised if georgia was #1.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohio is close behind
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