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FutureViking09
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| Bo_Spice wrote: | | I'm starting to lose faith in Pat Haden as our athletic director. Lane Kiffin and Kevin O'Neil are absolutely destroying our programs. At least when we had Pete Carroll and Tim Floyd running our programs we had some to vacate. |
I honestly believe it would take a losing season AND a recruiting class OUTSIDE the top 25 in order for Kiffin to get his walking papers. He is not an elite coach but he is an elite talker and knows how to speak to recruits....
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IrishGreen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| FutureViking09 wrote: | | Bo_Spice wrote: | | I'm starting to lose faith in Pat Haden as our athletic director. Lane Kiffin and Kevin O'Neil are absolutely destroying our programs. At least when we had Pete Carroll and Tim Floyd running our programs we had some to vacate. |
I honestly believe it would take a losing season AND a recruiting class OUTSIDE the top 25 in order for Kiffin to get his walking papers. He is not an elite coach but he is an elite talker and knows how to speak to recruits.... |
what's the point though if that doesn't translate to wins?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I think Lane Kiffin can hold us over until a clear-cut, more efficient and appropriate replacement builds a buzz and establishes himself as HC candidate.
He's pulling in recruits, I'd say another year or two of Top-5 Classes (while possibly suffering unfortunate fate in the Win-Loss Columns), fire him and let the new coaching stuff come and groom our guys so they can actually develop into players that warrant their 5/4* Labels.
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Bo_Spice
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I'd be willing to bet money that Lane Kiffin will get the boot after next season if we have another disappointing year, regardless of what our recruiting class looks like. Programs like Oregon, Stanford, and even UCLA are beginning to separate themselves as the class of the Pac-12 and if we don't do something soon it could hurt us in the long run and really set our program back a few years.
A little side note, I was impressed with what I saw out of Browne today in the Army All-American game. He throws a pretty pass, moves around better than I thought, and has a stronger arm than I thought he did. I wouldn't be surprised to see him beat out Wittek for the starting job especially considering Kiffin's job is going to be on the line next season.
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Bo_Spice
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| FutureViking09 wrote: | | I honestly believe it would take a losing season AND a recruiting class OUTSIDE the top 25 in order for Kiffin to get his walking papers. He is not an elite coach but he is an elite talker and knows how to speak to recruits.... |
I seriously doubt Pat Haden is going to tolerate another year like this, especially if it happens again next season. The fact that we have the most talent of any school in the Pac-12 and are struggling to beat a team that couldn't even finish at .500 in the ACC in the Sun Bowl while Oregon and Stanford are winning BCS Bowls is a testament to how horrible our coaching has been.
The only reason Haden is being as tolerant as he is with Kiffin is because he kept our program afloat during all of the sanctions. Now that our bowl ban has been lifted and our scholarship reductions will be ending soon there is no excuse for us not to be an elite program competing for Rose Bowl appearances and National Championships.
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Bo_Spice
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Honestly what is the point in bringing Lane Kiffin back for another season? He can't coach to save his life and our recruiting class is falling apart. I'm starting to question Pat Haden's ability to run an athletic department.
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i'm seeing on rivals that leon mcquay signed his LOI w/ USC
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Bo_Spice
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| bizell wrote: | | i'm seeing on rivals that leon mcquay signed his LOI w/ USC |
Yeah he's already enrolled at classes at USC and will be participating in spring ball.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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But we lost Kylie Fitts.....Jesus Christ.
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Why is everyone so doom and gloom? This is temporary. We'll get Fitts back, we'll get Vanderdoes back, and we're going to finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Calm down ffs
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| Shaq wrote: | | Why is everyone so doom and gloom? This is temporary. We'll get Fitts back, we'll get Vanderdoes back, and we're going to finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Calm down ffs |
And we'll be mediocre again next season and hopefully Haden and Kiffin are fired and replaced with people that want to win.
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Lets star a Hue Jackson in 2014 campaign!
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| Bo_Spice wrote: | | Shaq wrote: | | Why is everyone so doom and gloom? This is temporary. We'll get Fitts back, we'll get Vanderdoes back, and we're going to finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Calm down ffs |
And we'll be mediocre again next season and hopefully Haden and Kiffin are fired and replaced with people that want to win. |
It'd be a pretty illogical move for Kiffin to be fired at this point. You can't put this recruiting class at risk, and you're better off letting Lane taking the lumps with the sanctions still in place.
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| thelawoffices wrote: | | Bo_Spice wrote: | | Shaq wrote: | | Why is everyone so doom and gloom? This is temporary. We'll get Fitts back, we'll get Vanderdoes back, and we're going to finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Calm down ffs |
And we'll be mediocre again next season and hopefully Haden and Kiffin are fired and replaced with people that want to win. |
It'd be a pretty illogical move for Kiffin to be fired at this point. You can't put this recruiting class at risk, and you're better off letting Lane taking the lumps with the sanctions still in place. |
Our recruiting class is falling apart though. The only reason I'm semi-okay with keeping Lane around is because we can use him to ride out these sanctions and once we have all of our scholarships back fire him and find a replacement that can actually coach.
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| Shaq wrote: | | Why is everyone so doom and gloom? This is temporary. We'll get Fitts back, we'll get Vanderdoes back, and we're going to finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Calm down ffs |
This is what all the guys in the Recruiting thread were saying but apparently they wanted McQuay over Fitts as an EE because McQuay had more stars or something. I don't know how valid that is, and obviously I don't go to USC so I wouldn't have any insider info, but hopefully that's not true. I do hope he decides to recommit because he's already buying /bought dorm stuff 
An informed USC poster somewhere online said this (he's actually on Bleacher Report but he always seems to know what's going on and was accurate on a lot of past recruiting/news updates on USC):
| Quote: | Here are the facts. USC must stay under the 75 scholarship limit. Seniors who graduate in December open up a slot for an EE. Unfortunately one of the seniors who was supposed to graduate early failed a class and didn't graduate. USC had to give up one of the planned EE slots. Unfortunately, the best option was Fitts for 3 reasons:
1. He has a broken wrist that is still healing and may keep him out of most spring practices
2. He is local and can maintain contact easily with USC
3. He is a long time USC follower who is more likely to accept the delay to June
Later yesterday Fitts tweeted @K_Fitts93:
"With everything that has occurred I want people to know SC is one of the nations top programs and has one of the nations best coaching staff"
If Kenny Bigelow's transcripts don't get cleared by the NCAA, Fitts may still be able to enroll early at USC.
This is a very unusual situation caused by the overly harsh NCAA sanctions that punish primarily innocent student athletes. I can certainly understand that Fitts is very unhappy and has a good reason to feel this way, however, USC made a tough decision for the good of the team. Fitts will still have the opportunity for 4 years of scholarship at USC ($200K) and this will give him time to heal and get conditioned. |
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