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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Richardson's knee is already causing problems, this is exactly what I was worried about with him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8245068/trent-richardson-cleveland-browns-sore-knee-miss-preseason-opener


I was another one who would've rather taken a guy like Doug Martin later than invest a top-5 pick in a guy like Richardson. Even though Richardson appears to be the superior athlete, there were no injury issues with Martin and it was in a much more reasonable part in the draft to take a RB.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5nick5 wrote:
Caaddy24 wrote:
Richardson's knee is already causing problems, this is exactly what I was worried about with him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8245068/trent-richardson-cleveland-browns-sore-knee-miss-preseason-opener


I was another one who would've rather taken a guy like Doug Martin later than invest a top-5 pick in a guy like Richardson. Even though Richardson appears to be the superior athlete, there were no injury issues with Martin and it was in a much more reasonable part in the draft to take a RB.

I was pushing for Trent hard around draft time. Looking back Im beyond enthusiastic with how everything turned out. Im a huge fan of Mark Barron and I think Doug Martin is doing great thus far. I really started liking Martin too as the draft approached. To top it all off we get David who is doing great and being highly praised in camp.

Knee issues are never something you want to have if you are a RB and that is and issue with Trent. I wish him the best and hope his career isnt shortened due to this injury. While I downplayed his knee think around the draft, we may have dodged a bullet with him and gotten the better player in Martin. Got to be on the field to make a difference for your team and right now Martin has the edge.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil' Shorty wrote:
5nick5 wrote:
Caaddy24 wrote:
Richardson's knee is already causing problems, this is exactly what I was worried about with him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8245068/trent-richardson-cleveland-browns-sore-knee-miss-preseason-opener


I was another one who would've rather taken a guy like Doug Martin later than invest a top-5 pick in a guy like Richardson. Even though Richardson appears to be the superior athlete, there were no injury issues with Martin and it was in a much more reasonable part in the draft to take a RB.

I was pushing for Trent hard around draft time. Looking back Im beyond enthusiastic with how everything turned out. Im a huge fan of Mark Barron and I think Doug Martin is doing great thus far. I really started liking Martin too as the draft approached. To top it all off we get David who is doing great and being highly praised in camp.

Knee issues are never something you want to have if you are a RB and that is and issue with Trent. I wish him the best and hope his career isnt shortened due to this injury. While I downplayed his knee think around the draft, we may have dodged a bullet with him and gotten the better player in Martin. Got to be on the field to make a difference for your team and right now Martin has the edge.


I think Martin is really special. He's not going to be that 1,500 rushing yds. a year guy, but he has a good chance in maybe leading the league in all-purpose yards at some point. I think this offense is more suited for a guy like Martin. And like you said, to spare Richardson for Barron, Martin, and David, it's a no-brainer on who I'd prefer. I really think and hope Dominik got this draft class right. I expect big things out of the first 3 picks.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil' Shorty wrote:
5nick5 wrote:
Caaddy24 wrote:
Richardson's knee is already causing problems, this is exactly what I was worried about with him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8245068/trent-richardson-cleveland-browns-sore-knee-miss-preseason-opener


I was another one who would've rather taken a guy like Doug Martin later than invest a top-5 pick in a guy like Richardson. Even though Richardson appears to be the superior athlete, there were no injury issues with Martin and it was in a much more reasonable part in the draft to take a RB.

I was pushing for Trent hard around draft time. Looking back Im beyond enthusiastic with how everything turned out. Im a huge fan of Mark Barron and I think Doug Martin is doing great thus far. I really started liking Martin too as the draft approached. To top it all off we get David who is doing great and being highly praised in camp.

Knee issues are never something you want to have if you are a RB and that is and issue with Trent. I wish him the best and hope his career isnt shortened due to this injury. While I downplayed his knee think around the draft, we may have dodged a bullet with him and gotten the better player in Martin. Got to be on the field to make a difference for your team and right now Martin has the edge.


http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson

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Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer "guesses" that Trent Richardson will need another scope of his left knee following Richardson's Thursday meeting with Dr. James Andrews.Cabot isn't a doctor, but she's covered the NFL long enough to know the signs. Cabot confirms that Richardson has encountered "swelling," and it doesn't sound like the rookie is visiting Andrews for a routine checkup.


I was all over Richardson as well. Lucky at least for the short term he wasn't on the board when we picked.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same with me, going into the draft I kept saying that a RB with a bad knee is not going to pan out well...

this dude might be getting knee surgery before his rookie season even starts...I hope the best for him but at the same time I'm happy we didn't trade up to get him
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deuces22wild wrote:
Lil' Shorty wrote:
5nick5 wrote:
Caaddy24 wrote:
Richardson's knee is already causing problems, this is exactly what I was worried about with him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8245068/trent-richardson-cleveland-browns-sore-knee-miss-preseason-opener


I was another one who would've rather taken a guy like Doug Martin later than invest a top-5 pick in a guy like Richardson. Even though Richardson appears to be the superior athlete, there were no injury issues with Martin and it was in a much more reasonable part in the draft to take a RB.

I was pushing for Trent hard around draft time. Looking back Im beyond enthusiastic with how everything turned out. Im a huge fan of Mark Barron and I think Doug Martin is doing great thus far. I really started liking Martin too as the draft approached. To top it all off we get David who is doing great and being highly praised in camp.

Knee issues are never something you want to have if you are a RB and that is and issue with Trent. I wish him the best and hope his career isnt shortened due to this injury. While I downplayed his knee think around the draft, we may have dodged a bullet with him and gotten the better player in Martin. Got to be on the field to make a difference for your team and right now Martin has the edge.


http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson

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Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer "guesses" that Trent Richardson will need another scope of his left knee following Richardson's Thursday meeting with Dr. James Andrews.Cabot isn't a doctor, but she's covered the NFL long enough to know the signs. Cabot confirms that Richardson has encountered "swelling," and it doesn't sound like the rookie is visiting Andrews for a routine checkup.


I was all over Richardson as well. Lucky at least for the short term he wasn't on the board when we picked.


I remember before the draft, well before, saying RB is not worth a top 5 pick, ESPECIALLY when one sat out most of the important workouts leading up to the draft because of a knee issue. I am glad I was right.

Richardson is a top talent, no doubt. But the style he plays and his position, I had a feeling he would be AP, but his body would begin to breakdown at an earlier part of his career. His visit to Dr. Andrews is not a routine check up. This seems like it will linger throughout the season.

Not saying injury cannot occur to Doug Martin because it can. But I feel more comfortable with depth at RB than having just 1 stud RB and not a very good team around him. Martin/Blount/Smith seem like a formitable Trio for the Bucs in the Backfield and not moving up for Richardson allowed us to address 2 very important positions on defense with 2 Studs.

I hope the best for Richardson. I really do. He could be a dominate force in this league. But quality depth at RB > 1 Stud RB.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil' Shorty wrote:
I was pushing for Trent hard around draft time. Looking back Im beyond enthusiastic with how everything turned out. Im a huge fan of Mark Barron and I think Doug Martin is doing great thus far. I really started liking Martin too as the draft approached. To top it all off we get David who is doing great and being highly praised in camp.


I'm pretty much in this boat... But looking back, I couldn't be happier with how the draft turned out. 2 knee surgeries in one offseason, even minor scopes, is not a good sign.

I think, more than anything, I'm excited to see Lavonte hit some people.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not 100% certain Martin was going to be there when we picked. Obviously, we didn't either otherwise we would have not traded up. It was clear as day our RB depth was putrid. So, if Richardson was gone I knew for a fact we were going to get our starter next pick. At the five Richardson is the slam dunk. BPA and fills need. Martin and Barron though in the first round will impact both sides of the ball from day 1. We had ourselves a DAMN good A+++ off-season. Its all up to #5 and the defense to control their own fate now.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from another forum...I thought this was funny

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Trade them Quincy.

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For what?

A piece of lint from Mike Smiths bellybutton? They would be getting robbed. No way they go for that deal.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calibucsfan wrote:
from another forum...I thought this was funny

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They lost Tatupu, lost Lofton to FA, and now Akeen Dent suffered a concussion. Keep an eye on this one...

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Trade them Quincy.

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For what?

A piece of lint from Mike Smiths bellybutton? They would be getting robbed. No way they go for that deal.


Hah... There's not too many trades for Quincy Black that I could feel like we got robbed on.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard anything about suspensions for either Talib or Wright?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoeKG wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about suspensions for either Talib or Wright?


I've not read anything either way. However, I would be suprised if Goodell suspends players this time around who didn't even go through a trial with their supposed transgressions. Certainly, the league is receiving a lot of negative press with Bounty gate and the Vilma lawsuit. I'm not sure Goodell is as aggressive handing out punishment at this time.
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ravishingone wrote:
RoeKG wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about suspensions for either Talib or Wright?


I've not read anything either way. However, I would be suprised if Goodell suspends players this time around who didn't even go through a trial with their supposed transgressions. Certainly, the league is receiving a lot of negative press with Bounty gate and the Vilma lawsuit. I'm not sure Goodell is as aggressive handing out punishment at this time.


Honestly goodell might be not be too power hungry this time around. Supposedly he's suspended these players in the bounty and can't necessarily come up with a lot of evidence. If that holds true he may be in trouble how can u suspend wright and Talib two innocent men ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/37796/camp-confidential-tampa-bay-buccaneers

Pretty much everything we've known and talked about but a good article by pat none the less
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Saints acquired veteran linebacker Barrett Ruud from the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for a future undisclosed draft pick.

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