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disaacs


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: 53-Man Roster Prediction: Start of Training Camp Edition Reply with quote

Here's my prediction, feel free to add your own:

QB1: Christian Ponder
QB2: Joe Webb
QB3: Sage Rosenfels

RB1: Adrian Peterson
RB2: Toby Gerhart
RB3: Jordan Todman

FB1: Ryan D'Imperio

WR1: Jerome Simpson
WR2: Percy Harvin
WR3: Greg Childs
WR4: Jarius Wright
WR5: Stephen Burton

TE1: Kyle Rudolph
TE2: John Carlson
TE3: Mickey Shuler
TE4: Rhett Ellison

OT1: Matt Kalil
OT2: Phil Loadholt
OG1: Charlie Johnson
OG2: Brandon Fusco
C1: John Sullivan
OL1: Geoff Schwartz
OL2: DeMarcus Love
OL3: Joe Berger
OL4: Patrick Brown

Offense: 25

DE1: Jared Allen
DE2: Brian Robison
DT1: Kevin Williams
DT2: Letroy Guion
DL1: Christian Ballard
DL2: D'Aundre Reed
DL3: Fred Evans
DL4: Jeff Charleston
DL5: Trevor Guyton
DL6: Tydreke Powell

LB1: Chad Greenway
LB2: Erin Henderson
LB3: Jasper Brinkley
LB4: Everson Griffen
LB5: Solomon Elimimian
LB6: Audie Cole

CB1: Chris Cook
CB2: Chris Carr
S1: Harrison Smith
S2: Mistral Raymond
DB1: Antoine Winfield
DB2: Josh Robinson
DB3: Jamarca Sanford
DB4: RJ Blanton
DB5: Zack Bowman

Defense: 25

K: Blair Walsh
P: Chris Kluwe
LS: Cullen Loeffler

Special Teams: 3

Notable Cuts: Eric Frampton, Jerome Felton, Chris DeGeare, Devin Aromashodu, Michael Jenkins, Emmanuel Arceneaux
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your list alot, but I find 2 things I disagree about:

1) Why wouldn't Percy Harvin be considered our #1 WR? He's not a number 1 WR in the sense of what Sidney Rice and Randy Moss were considered #1 WRs, but as of right now, Harvin is our best reciever.

2) I don't see us starting Chris Carr over Josh Robinson or even Zack Bowman. While I see Cook being the definite LCB, and Winfield the NCB, I think RCB will be held be either of these guys. Carr should see time in the Dime, or 5th spot, and working on special teams.

otherwise, good job.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this list. The LB battle for the back-up spots will be very interesting. I think you're dead-on for the Dline and DBs.

On offense I like the O-Line set up. In lieu of Shuler, I think they'll keep Jenkins at wideout -- to start the season, and then cut Shuler when Simpson returns.

The 3rd back will be a battle too. Todman seems like a guy that fits, so we'll just have to see how things shake out on Special Teams for him.

The last position I don't think is settled is Kicker -- yes, kicker. Walsh had better hit 90+% in the first 2 weeks of camp and everything in the first 2 pre-season games, or I'd be calling Longwell back. I'd purposely have the offense stall a couple times in pre-season games to make this kid kick -- a lot. The last thing this team needs is Chuck Nelson Jr.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OFFENSE / 25 players

QB 1 Christian Ponder
QB 2 Joe Webb
QB 3 Sage Rosenfels

RB 1 Adrian Peterson
RB 2 Toby Gerhart
RB 3 Jordan Todman

WR X Percy Harvin / Michael Jenkins
WR Z Jerome Simpson / (Devin Aromashodu makes team while Simpson serves suspension)
WR Y Percy Harvin / (Harvin to slot in 3 wide sets)
WR 4 Greg Childs
WR 5 Stephen Burton
WR 6 Jarius Wright

TE 1 Kyle Rudolph
TE 2 John Carlson
TE 3 Mickey Shuler
FB/TE Rhett Ellison

LT Matt Kalil
LG Charlie Johnson
C John Sullivan
RG Brandon Fusco
RT Phil Loadholt
OT DeMarcus Love
OG Geoff Schwartz
OG Joe Berger
OG Chris DeGeare

DEFENSE / 25 Players

LE Brian Robison
NT Letroy Guion
UT Kevin Williams
RE Jared Allen
DE D'Aundre Reed
DE Trevor Guyton
DT Fred Evans
DT Christian Ballard
DT Tydreke Powell

WLB Everson Griffen
MLB Erin Henderson
SLB Chad Greenway
LB 4 Jasper Brinkley
LB 5 Solomon Elimimian
LB 6 Audie Cole

LCB Chris Cook
FS Mistral Raymond
SS Harrison Smith
RCB Josh Robinson
NCB Antoine Winfield
DCB Chris Carr
CB 5 Zach Bowman
S 3 Robert Blanton
S 4 Brandon Burton
S 5 Jamarca Sanford

SPECIAL TEAMS / 3 Players

K Blair Walsh
P Chris Kluwe
LS Cullen Loeffler
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB:
01. Christian Ponder
02. Joe Webb
03. Sage Rosenfels

RB:
04. Adrian Peterson
05. Toby Gerhart
06. Jordan Toddman

TE:
07. Kyle Rudolph
08. John Carlson
09. Allen Reisner
10. Rhett Ellison
11. Mickey Shuler

WR:
12. Percy Harvin
13. Michael Jenkins
14. Greg Childs
15. Devin Aromashodu/ Jerome Simpson*
16. Jarius Wright
17. Stephen Burton

OL:
18. Matt Kalil
19. Charlie Johnson
20. John Sullivan
21. Brandon Fusco
22. Geoff Schwartz
23. Chris DeGeare
24. Phil Loadholt
25. DeMarcus Love

DL:
26. Jared Allen
27. Kevin Williams
28. Letroy Guion
29. Brian Robison
30. Christian Ballard
31. Everson Griffen*
32. D'Aundre Reed
33. Fred Evans
34. Trevor Guyton

LB:
35. Chad Greenway
36. Jasper Brinkley
37. Erin Henderson
38. Marvin Mitchell
39. Tyler Nielsen

CB:
40. Chris Cook
41. Antoine Winfield
42. Josh Robinson
43. Chris Carr
44. Zach Bowman
45. Brandon Burton

S:
46. Harrison Smith
47. Mistral Raymond
48. Robert Blanton
49. Jamarca Sanford
50. Andrew Sendejo

ST:
51. Chris Kluwe
52. Blair Walsh
53. Cullen Loeffler

PS
01. Bobby Felder
02. Audie Cole
03. Chase Baker
04. Enest Owusu
05. Patrick Brown
06. Levi Horn
07. Corey Gatewood
08. Kevin Murphy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero
Jerome Felton continues to rep ahead of Ryan D'Imperio, who is on every special team. Definite chance they keep two fullbacks.


Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero
Seems Lex Hilliard is ahead of Jordan Todman right now too. Another special teams guy. Depends what #Vikings want in No. 3 halfback.


Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero
Mike Priefer says "As far as I'm concerned, Percy is our No. 1 kick returner."


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Geoff Schwartz working in at RG with ones. Also D'Aundre Reed just did what he always does in practice -- speed rush, touch sack.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In regards to the FB question. Id like to just keep Ellison as the FB and backup TE, rather than wasting an extra position on a pure FB, even if they can help on special teams. Id rather save that roster spot for an extra WR or DB.

As for the #3 RB spot, id prefer Todman. I think he is more of a true third down RB, and has return potential. If Hilliard could play FB and RB, id consider him as well.

Interesting that Schwartz is the current starting RG, i guess that isnt too unexpected. Though with the talk of Fusco pushing for a starting spot, I wonder if the Vikes are hoping he can push Charlie Johnson at LG too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
Interesting that Schwartz is the current starting RG, i guess that isnt too unexpected. Though with the talk of Fusco pushing for a starting spot, I wonder if the Vikes are hoping he can push Charlie Johnson at LG too.

I wouldn't read to much into who's playing with the first team, right now. Schwartz was starting today, but Fusco was playing with the first string yesterday.
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LostRoadStone wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
Interesting that Schwartz is the current starting RG, i guess that isnt too unexpected. Though with the talk of Fusco pushing for a starting spot, I wonder if the Vikes are hoping he can push Charlie Johnson at LG too.

I wouldn't read to much into who's playing with the first team, right now. Schwartz was starting today, but Fusco was playing with the first string yesterday.


the competition will be good. bottom line, and its refreshing after the past several years having Hutchinson and Herrera slated to start without question.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two fullbacks? Most teams don't need 1.....strategy, strategy...come on....

Also, Webb should be your return guy. Waste of him to sit him on the bench, total waste. And you want Percy at WR and RB, more than last year.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 53-Man Roster Prediction: Start of Training Camp Edition Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
WR1: Jerome Simpson
WR2: Percy Harvin
WR3: Greg Childs
WR4: Jarius Wright
WR5: Stephen Burton

DE1: Jared Allen
DE2: Brian Robison
DT1: Kevin Williams
DT2: Letroy Guion
DL1: Christian Ballard
DL2: D'Aundre Reed
DL3: Fred Evans
DL4: Jeff Charleston
DL5: Trevor Guyton
DL6: Tydreke Powell

LB1: Chad Greenway
LB2: Erin Henderson
LB3: Jasper Brinkley
LB4: Everson Griffen
LB5: Solomon Elimimian
LB6: Audie Cole

Notable Cuts: Eric Frampton, Jerome Felton, Chris DeGeare, Devin Aromashodu, Michael Jenkins, Emmanuel Arceneaux


The bolded above are the only 2 that have clearly changed thus far, with Childs out for the year and Griffen being moved back to DE (likely to be replaced by Marvin Mitchell). Griffen will replace one of those currently listed as DE, most likely Powell at this point. And one of the WRs currently listed as being cut will replaced Childs, my guess right now is it will be Arceneaux.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I'll bite and update mine too.


OFFENSE / 24 players

QB 1 Christian Ponder
QB 2 Joe Webb
QB 3 Sage Rosenfels

RB 1 Adrian Peterson
RB 2 Toby Gerhart
RB 3 Lex Hilliard

WR 1 Percy Harvin
WR 2 Jerome Simpson / Devin Aromashodu
WR 3 Stephen Burton
WR 4 Michael Jenkins
WR 5 Jarius Wright

TE 1 Kyle Rudolph
TE 2 John Carlson
TE 3/FB Rhett Ellison
TE 4 Mickey Shuler

LT Matt Kalil
LG Charlie Johnson
C John Sullivan
RG Brandon Fusco
RT Phil Loadholt
OT DeMarcus Love
OT Patrick Brown
OG Geoff Schwartz
OG/C Joe Berger

DEFENSE / 26 Players

LE Brian Robison
NT Letroy Guion
UT Kevin Williams
RE Jared Allen
DE Everson Griffen
DE D'Aundre Reed
DT Fred Evans
DT Christian Ballard
DT Tydreke Powell

WLB Erin Henderson
MLB Jasper Brinkley
SLB Chad Greenway
LB 4 Marvin Mitchell
LB 5 Solomon Elimimian
LB 6 Audie Cole
LB 7 Larry Dean

LCB Chris Cook
FS Mistral Raymond
SS Harrison Smith
RCB Josh Robinson
NCB Antoine Winfield
DCB Chris Carr
CB 5 Zach Bowman
CB 6 Marcus Sherels or Brandon Burton (*Note)
S 3 Jamarca Sanford
S 4 Robert Blanton

SPECIAL TEAMS / 3 Players

K Blair Walsh
P Chris Kluwe
LS Cullen Loeffler


If Jarius Wright or Josh Robinson can prove to be a more effective return specialist than Marcus Sherels, I would prefer to keep Brandon Burton as a developmental CB. However, if Sherels is the team's best PR to start the year, I prefer Sherels as the 6th CB.

Seven Linebackers plus Everson Griffen may be overkill, however, I think if the team cuts either Solomon Elimimian or Audie Cole, they will get picked up. Marvin Mitchell is a versatile backup and Larry Dean seems like a special teams favorite and probably will get a roster spot.

Depth at Safety might be thin, so I am kind of hoping that Burton or Bowman could possibly play in a pinch. I like the potential of Sherels or Burton more than Eric Frampton at Safety so it seemed more ideal to carry 6 CBs/4 Safetys, than a more balanced mix of 5 and 5.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be interesting to see who the Vikes keep for the final 53. My list is similar to LostRoadStone's.

On offense, I see the Vikes keeping 3 QBs, 9 O-line (adding Joe Berger), 3 TEs, 3 RBs and 1 FB with 6 WRs (or 5 WRs & 4 TEs).

Schwartz' injury puts him in position to be placed on season ending IR -- remember when Matt Birk had that same injury and the down year he experienced? Schwartz isn't the talent of Birk, so it may be reasonable they'll want someone healthy as a back-up.

On D, I suspect the D-line will carry 9 guys, 6 LBs (adding Dean), 10 DBs (cutting Sendejo).
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I find the LB spot very intriguing.

You have Greenway, Henderson, Brinkley as locks. After that, Mitchell seems like a safe bet as the most experienced backup. After Mitchell, it becomes much more difficult where MN needs to figure out if they want to keep 6 total LBs plus Griffen or 7 LBs plus Griffen. The problem with assigning a number value to a specific position is you may end up letting a potential contributor go. I see Cole and Elimimian as bright spots and players who have made some plays. Id like to keep both those players and that puts the team at 6 + Griffen. So where does that leave Larry Dean? It seems like he has ascended as a premier special teams player for this team. Its not a bad dilemma to have, you just dont want to let go of talent because of the perception you might be too deep at one position.
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Final Roster

Offense // 25

QB 1 Christian Ponder
QB 2 Joe Webb
QB 3 Sage Rosenfels

RB 1 Adrian Peterson
RB 2 Toby Gerhart
RB 3 Lex Hilliard

WR 1 Percy Harvin
WR 2 Jerome Simpson
WR 3 Stephen Burton
WR 4 Michael Jenkins
WR 5 Devin Aromashodu
WR 6 Jarius Wright

TE 1 Kyle Rudolph
TE 2 John Carlson
TE 3 Rhett Ellison
TE 4 Mickey Shuler

LT Matt Kalil
LG Charlie Johnson
C John Sullivan
RG Brandon Fusco
RT Phil Loadholt
OT DeMarcus Love
OT Patrick Brown
OG Geoff Schwartz
OG/C Joe Berger

Defense // 25

LE Brian Robison
NT Letroy Guion
UT Kevin Williams
RE Jared Allen
DE Everson Griffen
DE D'Aundre Reed
DT Fred Evans
DT Christian Ballard

WLB Erin Henderson
MLB Jasper Brinkley
SLB Chad Greenway
LB 4 Marvin Mitchell
LB 5 Solomon Elimimian
LB 6 Audie Cole
LB 7 Larry Dean

LCB Chris Cook
FS Mistral Raymond
SS Harrison Smith
RCB Zack Bowman
NCB Antoine Winfield
DCB Josh Robinson
CB 5 Brandon Burton
CB 6 Marcus Sherels
S 3 Jamarca Sanford
S 4 Robert Blanton

Special Teams // 3 Players

K Blair Walsh
P Chris Kluwe
LS Cullen Loeffler
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