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DawgSoldier


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like clowny as well. BUT i have an extreme distaste of waiting to drafts to address one position with one player who may or may be available at the Browns draft position or healthy or even if he declares.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
I really like clowny as well. BUT i have an extreme distaste of waiting to drafts to address one position with one player who may or may be available at the Browns draft position or healthy or even if he declares.


I'm just saying, I don't see a franchise RDE in the first few rounds of this class.

Mingo is a track start playing football
Monty doesn't know how to rush the passer
Okefor and co can't defend the run
Werner plays LE primarily and doesn't show up on the big stages.
Lemoneir needs to get bigger and stronger.
Jordan plays a 34 OLB, so you don't see him in certain positions.
Goldson is to slow
Simon isn't that athletic.
Hunt is a huge project

There is a CB, SLB, and FS.

There also isn't much top end talent. Farther pushing a trade down option.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
I really like clowny as well. BUT i have an extreme distaste of waiting to drafts to address one position with one player who may or may be available at the Browns draft position or healthy or even if he declares.


I'm just saying, I don't see a franchise RDE in the first few rounds of this class.

Mingo is a track start playing football
Monty doesn't know how to rush the passer
Okefor and co can't defend the run
Werner plays LE primarily and doesn't show up on the big stages.
Lemoneir needs to get bigger and stronger.
Jordan plays a 34 OLB, so you don't see him in certain positions.
Goldson is to slow
Simon isn't that athletic.
Hunt is a huge project

There is a CB, SLB, and FS.

There also isn't much top end talent. Farther pushing a trade down option.


and Moore?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
I really like clowny as well. BUT i have an extreme distaste of waiting to drafts to address one position with one player who may or may be available at the Browns draft position or healthy or even if he declares.


I'm just saying, I don't see a franchise RDE in the first few rounds of this class.

Mingo is a track start playing football
Monty doesn't know how to rush the passer
Okefor and co can't defend the run
Werner plays LE primarily and doesn't show up on the big stages.
Lemoneir needs to get bigger and stronger.
Jordan plays a 34 OLB, so you don't see him in certain positions.
Goldson is to slow
Simon isn't that athletic.
Hunt is a huge project

There is a CB, SLB, and FS.

There also isn't much top end talent. Farther pushing a trade down option.


and Moore?


I honesty havn't watched him at all. So I won't make an assumption. ....


Just watched a clip of the Florida game with him. He doesn't use his hands at all, based on that clip. Great burst though.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE


most 34 rush backers can play in Jauron's 43 IMO.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE


most 34 rush backers can play in Jauron's 43 IMO.


the only one I would wantis Jordan from Oregon,
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE


most 34 rush backers can play in Jauron's 43 IMO.


the only one I would wantis Jordan from Oregon,


Moore and Lemonier are possibilities as well, especially if the pull a nick perry and swell up 10-20 lbs before the combine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
I really like clowny as well. BUT i have an extreme distaste of waiting to drafts to address one position with one player who may or may be available at the Browns draft position or healthy or even if he declares.


I agree with this as well, although from what I saw on the Cleveland '95 doc was that they did that for Ray Lewis....

The problem I have with us waiting for Clowny is that if he keeps this up he is going #1.... and as much as we say trade what ever to get him-- the team that trades down might not want too- imo franchise qb's and pass rushers will be selected by a team that does not already have one in place-- I hope we can pull it off and I am all for a trade down from up top to collect draft picks (I do not like Jarvis Jones) for this year or even next year talent will be just as good this year and maybe better next

The only top 10 guy I like this year is Te'o
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE


Unfortunately I think the trend is to show that everyone can stand up at 245 lbs. the ones that could develop into true RDE never do.

There are a few that I think can in this class but not in the top 10
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Honestly I see this draft being heavy on the 3-4 rush backer and light on the 4-3 RE


most 34 rush backers can play in Jauron's 43 IMO.


the only one I would wantis Jordan from Oregon,


Moore and Lemonier are possibilities as well, especially if the pull a nick perry and swell up 10-20 lbs before the combine.


Not a huge fan of lemonier and both a
A&M guys to me are built for the 3-4 I don't see them in a 4-3
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

due to cattleman's mock...much props btw

There is a dark horse candidate to add.

47 Ezekiel Ansah, LB
Brigham Young Cougars
Height/Weight: 6-5/270
Birthplace: Accra, Gahna
Team: Brigham Young Cougars
Class: Senior

The kid is VERY raw but he is extremely athletically gifted.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is this dude?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
How old is this dude?

according to thread in the draft forum he is 23, how reliable that is I am not sure.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=501273
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
How old is this dude?

according to thread in the draft forum he is 23, how reliable that is I am not sure.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=501273


That's kinda what I was wondering.

Accurate birth records are not always readily available in some parts of Africa, just curious as to the legitimacy.
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