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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Antonio Bryant sign a contract with the Seahawks? I thought he just had a tryout.

Whats the Seahawk WR corps look like now? I heard Williams was going to be the starter opposite Rice, but now that he's cut things obviously have changed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Relying on Bryant is laughable. At best he'll be the number 4 receiver on this team if he even makes it. Seattle will probably compensate for the inexperience at wideout with two tight end sets, although if Jackson starts that plan is screwed. Jackson has a dismal rating when he throws to the middle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did Antonio Bryant sign a contract with the Seahawks? I thought he just had a tryout.

Whats the Seahawk WR corps look like now? I heard Williams was going to be the starter opposite Rice, but now that he's cut things obviously have changed.

I think it will probably go:

Rice
Baldwin
Tate
Lockette
Obomanu
Butler or Durham. My guess is Durham beats Butler, because he's the only receiver that fits the Sidney Rice mold, and he was a relatively high draft pick during the Carroll tenure.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...
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First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.
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SaveourSonics wrote:
First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.


How exactly is Tate more limited? Baldwin did the majority of his dirty work in the slot because he's much better at the option routes where he can feel for the soft zone. I'm not saying Tate is better on the outside, but Baldwin is better on the inside. Obviously he'll be moved around, but I definitely don't expect him to be the primary #2.
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Looks like Pete Carroll didn't actually "turn Williams' career around" the way some Seahawks fans proclaimed all off-season (he was also called a "legit #2 WR" laughably)

The guy is a bum, has been a bum for years. His terrible work ethic/conditioning issues and release from the team really shouldn't surprise anyone.
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mcmurtry86 wrote:
Looks like Pete Carroll didn't actually "turn Williams' career around" the way some Seahawks fans proclaimed all off-season (he was also called a "legit #2 WR" laughably)

The guy is a bum, has been a bum for years. His terrible work ethic/conditioning issues and release from the team really shouldn't surprise anyone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaveourSonics wrote:
Pithy Radish wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.


How exactly is Tate more limited? Baldwin did the majority of his dirty work in the slot because he's much better at the option routes where he can feel for the soft zone. I'm not saying Tate is better on the outside, but Baldwin is better on the inside. Obviously he'll be moved around, but I definitely don't expect him to be the primary #2.
I expect him to be the primary 2 in a 2 WR set.

Just as Welker is always on the field, even though he's a "slot" WR Bladwin will find himself on the field even in 2WR sets.
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If he's kicked out due to weight, I'm not sad for him at all. If you have the talent work and make that Cash.
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This guy doesn't care. This is what you get when you dont want it.
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mcmurtry86 wrote:
Looks like Pete Carroll didn't actually "turn Williams' career around" the way some Seahawks fans proclaimed all off-season (he was also called a "legit #2 WR" laughably)

The guy is a bum, has been a bum for years. His terrible work ethic/conditioning issues and release from the team really shouldn't surprise anyone.


I don't know for a fact that the reason he was cut was due to weight but how is it Pete Caroll's fault that he can't take care of himself?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
Pithy Radish wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.


How exactly is Tate more limited? Baldwin did the majority of his dirty work in the slot because he's much better at the option routes where he can feel for the soft zone. I'm not saying Tate is better on the outside, but Baldwin is better on the inside. Obviously he'll be moved around, but I definitely don't expect him to be the primary #2.
I expect him to be the primary 2 in a 2 WR set.

Just as Welker is always on the field, even though he's a "slot" WR Bladwin will find himself on the field even in 2WR sets.

Exactly. Baldwin will be number 2 on our depth chart and likely trade off positions with Baldwin. Baldwin worked both the outside and the slot, and like Tats said, he will likely be on the field on two receiver sets. The things you mentioned are going to be why he's going to be on the field most of the time. Tate is also a good fit in the slot because of his YAC ability, and change of direction. He's learning how to read coverages, and react, if we use him right he could become a mini-Percy Harvin.
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Pithy Radish wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
Pithy Radish wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.


How exactly is Tate more limited? Baldwin did the majority of his dirty work in the slot because he's much better at the option routes where he can feel for the soft zone. I'm not saying Tate is better on the outside, but Baldwin is better on the inside. Obviously he'll be moved around, but I definitely don't expect him to be the primary #2.
I expect him to be the primary 2 in a 2 WR set.

Just as Welker is always on the field, even though he's a "slot" WR Bladwin will find himself on the field even in 2WR sets.

Exactly. Baldwin will be number 2 on our depth chart and likely trade off positions with Baldwin. Baldwin worked both the outside and the slot, and like Tats said, he will likely be on the field on two receiver sets. The things you mentioned are going to be why he's going to be on the field most of the time. Tate is also a good fit in the slot because of his YAC ability, and change of direction. He's learning how to read coverages, and react, if we use him right he could become a mini-Percy Harvin.


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jrry32 wrote:
Pithy Radish wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
Pithy Radish wrote:
SaveourSonics wrote:
First of all, don't think anyone said we'd be relying on Antonio Bryant. Simply that he's a guy to look out for with his experience.

And there's no way Baldwin is the outside #2. He'll stay in the slot for the most part. I think this is a great chance for Golden Tate to take over the starting spot, Obo is the safe choice, and Lockette is the diamond in the rough that I hope gets the opportunity.

And saying he's packed on 40 pounds is pretty laughable...

He's not going to make the roster, he's done. Secondly Baldwin didn't play exclusively from the slot. He moved around, and actually showed he could play on the outside. Tate is more limited on the outside.


How exactly is Tate more limited? Baldwin did the majority of his dirty work in the slot because he's much better at the option routes where he can feel for the soft zone. I'm not saying Tate is better on the outside, but Baldwin is better on the inside. Obviously he'll be moved around, but I definitely don't expect him to be the primary #2.
I expect him to be the primary 2 in a 2 WR set.

Just as Welker is always on the field, even though he's a "slot" WR Bladwin will find himself on the field even in 2WR sets.

Exactly. Baldwin will be number 2 on our depth chart and likely trade off positions with Baldwin. Baldwin worked both the outside and the slot, and like Tats said, he will likely be on the field on two receiver sets. The things you mentioned are going to be why he's going to be on the field most of the time. Tate is also a good fit in the slot because of his YAC ability, and change of direction. He's learning how to read coverages, and react, if we use him right he could become a mini-Percy Harvin.


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Notice that I didn't say PERCY HARVIN, I said MINI meaning NOT as good, kind of how you called Amendola baby Welker. Obviously Amendola is not Welker, but he brings a similar skill set, albeit he doesn't do those things as good as Welker. It's the same situation for Golden Tate.
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