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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rory would murder Kos... It would be a massacre.

Kos doesnt even wrestle anymore. Dude is an average fighter.

This is precisely why the hype bothers me.

Rory has done absolutely nothing to suggest he would "murder" Kos.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmore4life815 wrote:
pollino14 wrote:
Rory would murder Kos... It would be a massacre.

Kos doesnt even wrestle anymore. Dude is an average fighter.

This is precisely why the hype bothers me.

Rory has done absolutely nothing to suggest he would "murder" Kos.


Exactly. Kos has never been murdered in his career. Yeah GSP beat him convincingly twice but was never able to really put Kos in a position to end the fight. It's a shame. Josh is most certainly an egotistical p---ck but he could easily compete for the MW belt once Anderson's done if he actually used his wrestling. His double leg might be the best in MMA and his top game is solid. Just needs to stop trying to be such a boxer.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kos gives up too much size to Wiedman. Also, 'shad and Machida might be MWs very soon. Just don't see it happening for him at MW. Also, he did get murdered by Alves, and Paulo Thiago got him pretty good as well. Still, he's growing underrated, especially after the Pierce fight.

Speaking of prospects, I think Wiedman could beat Anderson right now. The guy is the future of wrestling-meets-jitz. His striking still needs work, but he is dynamic with his submission attempts, and very few of them require giving up control. It's awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kos gives up too much size to Wiedman. Also, 'shad and Machida might be MWs very soon. Just don't see it happening for him at MW. Also, he did get murdered by Alves, and Paulo Thiago got him pretty good as well. Still, he's growing underrated, especially after the Pierce fight.

Speaking of prospects, I think Wiedman could beat Anderson right now. The guy is the future of wrestling-meets-jitz. His striking still needs work, but he is dynamic with his submission attempts, and very few of them require giving up control. It's awesome.

He took the Alves fight on two weeks notice, and, let's face it, Kos beats Thiago 8-9 times out of 10. Not to mention it was a disputed stoppage.

I'd favor Weidman over Anderson as well. And, yeah, his positional BJJ is a thing of beauty. It's weird to think a purple belt is superior to a black belt, but that's definitely the case with Weidman and Anderson.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bored, and I feel like making my UFC on Fox 5 main card predictions (for whatever reason), so here we go:

Bendo over Diaz (UD)
Gustafsson over Shogun (UD)
MacDonald over BJ (TKO R2)
Brown over Swick (TKO R3)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmore4life815 wrote:
Bendo over Diaz (UD)
Gustafsson over Shogun (UD)
MacDonald over BJ (TKO R2)
Brown over Swick (TKO R3)
I'll play along...

Nate Diaz over Benson Henderson via UD (48-47, 49-46, 48-47)
Alexander Gustafsson over Mauricio "Shogun" Rua via TKO (2)
Rory MacDonald over BJ Penn via Sub (RNC, 3)
Mike Swick over Matt Brown via Brutal KO (1)
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bkobow05 wrote:
bmore4life815 wrote:
Bendo over Diaz (UD)
Gustafsson over Shogun (UD)
MacDonald over BJ (TKO R2)
Brown over Swick (TKO R3)
I'll play along...

Nate Diaz over Benson Henderson via UD (48-47, 49-46, 48-47)
Alexander Gustafsson over Mauricio "Shogun" Rua via TKO (2)
Rory MacDonald over BJ Penn via Sub (RNC, 3)
Mike Swick over Matt Brown via Brutal KO (1)

1. I'd be STUNNED if Shogun gets finished by Gus. Not calling you dumb for it or anything, but that's quite a bold prediction.

2. Rory's not subbing BJ in this lifetime.

3. "Brutal KO?" Has Brown ever even been knocked out?
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bmore4life815 wrote:
1. I'd be STUNNED if Shogun gets finished by Gus. Not calling you dumb for it or anything, but that's quite a bold prediction.
Well, I'm usually out there with my predictions and the last (only?) guy to finish Rua was Bones, which Gusty resembles a bit. Remember, I said TKO (which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be out) by Gusty. I could see Shogun gassing and Gusty lighting him up until the ref is forced to stop it.

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2. Rory's not subbing BJ in this lifetime.
Probably not haha. LIS, I'm out there with my predictions. I could see BJ gassing and Rory taking him down and getting his back. Just depends on which BJ we see. Very Happy

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3. "Brutal KO?" Has Brown ever even been knocked out?
Nope but there's a first time for everything. I just like watching Swick fight and I almost always predict him to win via "Brutal KO." Laughing
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LOLCUB

http://www.bjpenn.com/mmanews/2012/10/04/cub-swanson-retracts-aldo-comments-says-he-meant-jens-pulver-ufc-news-38133.html
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gassed Shogun eating bombs from an active Gusty is a recipe for a TKO. I can see that. Alexander has finishing power and knows how to use it. I don't exactly buy the "Shogun has diamond chin" theory.

Rory subbing BJ just means BJ has completely gassed, but even then I think we'd see a GnP finish first.

Give me

Bendo by UD
Gusty by TKO
Rory by UD (a close one, think GSP/Penn 1)
Swick by SUB
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bkobow05 wrote:
LOLCUB

http://www.bjpenn.com/mmanews/2012/10/04/cub-swanson-retracts-aldo-comments-says-he-meant-jens-pulver-ufc-news-38133.html


I actually believe him. Makes a ton more sense.
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Packman Luke wrote:
bkobow05 wrote:
LOLCUB

http://www.bjpenn.com/mmanews/2012/10/04/cub-swanson-retracts-aldo-comments-says-he-meant-jens-pulver-ufc-news-38133.html


I actually believe him. Makes a ton more sense.
Oh, I believe him but how the hell do you confuse Jose Aldo with Jens Pulver? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bkobow05 wrote:
bmore4life815 wrote:
1. I'd be STUNNED if Shogun gets finished by Gus. Not calling you dumb for it or anything, but that's quite a bold prediction.
Well, I'm usually out there with my predictions and the last (only?) guy to finish Rua was Bones, which Gusty resembles a bit. Remember, I said TKO (which doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be out) by Gusty. I could see Shogun gassing and Gusty lighting him up until the ref is forced to stop it.

bmore4life815 wrote:
2. Rory's not subbing BJ in this lifetime.
Probably not haha. LIS, I'm out there with my predictions. I could see BJ gassing and Rory taking him down and getting his back. Just depends on which BJ we see. Very Happy

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3. "Brutal KO?" Has Brown ever even been knocked out?
Nope but there's a first time for everything. I just like watching Swick fight and I almost always predict him to win via "Brutal KO." Laughing

Fair enough. And you're right, there's a first for everything.
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Packman Luke wrote:
Gassed Shogun eating bombs from an active Gusty is a recipe for a TKO. I can see that. Alexander has finishing power and knows how to use it. I don't exactly buy the "Shogun has diamond chin" theory.

Rory subbing BJ just means BJ has completely gassed, but even then I think we'd see a GnP finish first.

Give me

Bendo by UD
Gusty by TKO
Rory by UD (a close one, think GSP/Penn 1)
Swick by SUB

But Shogun does have a diamond chin. LOL... Seriously, it's arguably the best in the history of MMA. Not even exaggerating.

Have fun tomorrow night, btw. Should be a good card.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he's getting MMA old. Machida, Jones, Hendo, and even Vera rocked him. Hendo had a phenomenal chin as well, but I think that is pretty much gone at this point. It happens to everybody, and I see signs of it in Shogun. Factor in how I see the striking match-up playing out, and I think a KO of some kind is a likely outcome.
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