Do you think Eli Manning can pass Peyton Manning in legacy?

Blackburn920 · Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Posts: 2

Eli is a consistently great quarterback. He has improved year to year every single year he has been in the league. He has been a fantastic QB for a long time at this point and obviously can get things done

At this point, I think I gotta put Eli's career ahead of Peytons. Eli is just more accomplished and has achieved more in the big moments[/quote]

x0x · Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13981 Location: Ontario, Canada

Yes.

He has plenty of time left and already has the most playoff road wins in NFL history. This is huge.

He also has two Super Bowl MVPs.

Imagine if you will, this kid wins only one league MVP, but captures two more Super Bowl titles with an MVP attached. GOAT?

The possibility exists and it would be foolish to toss it aside. Look up Joe Montana prior to 1988 if you don't believe me.
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maes · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 6627 Location: STRONGISLAND4REAL

He definitely hasn't surpassed Peyton yet. Of course there's a chance that he does as this is a very erratic game, but he most likely will not.

incognito_man · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 26524 Location: Madison

depends on how you define legacy i guess.

If he wins another SB MVP, and Peyton doesn't win anymore SBs, then yes. Because many Peyton conversations will ultimately include the fact that Eli had 3 SBs and Peyton had 1.

jrsam25 · Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Posts: 63 Location: US

More rings doesn't always mean better player. If it was then Bradshaw would be #2 all time and Aikman would be top 5. Let's look back at the last decade and remember how great Peyton was. Eli so far has had 1 great year and 7 below average - good years.

SwiftTexan · Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 2441

When they both are retired - Eli may have more SuperBowl MVPs and Superbowl rings.

Peyton will probably have the advantage in Pro Bowls (currently 11-2 and Peyton is only 5 years older). Peyton also have 5 first team nominations - does Eli have any? Peyton will probably have more NFL MVPs awards than Eli - currently 4-0.

My point is that I will always regard Peyton as a better QB in terms of skill and production. Eli has been a part of teams that have had more success and has proven to come up big in the post-season. Both are great QBs. Peyton has bigger stats - Eli has bigger wins. If you asked me which QB I'd want on my team in their prime - I'd pick Peyton every time. Despite the SB rings - I don't even have Eli as a Top5 QB in his generation.
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zacapr22 · Joined: 03 Jan 2011 Posts: 897 Location: East

If he finds a way to earn 4 MVP awards
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Malik · Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 2973

It may be agreed upon that he had a (much more) successful career, but Eli is so far behind his brother in terms of productivity and talent that it is not conceivable that he will be considered better.

incognito_man · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 26524 Location: Madison

Career postseason statistics:

TD%
Eli - 4.8%
Peyton - 4.0%

INT%
Eli - 2.2%
Peyton - 2.6%

YPA
Peyton - 7.5
Eli - 7.1

Passer Rating
Eli - 89.3
Peyton 88.4

Games over 100 QBR
Eli - 5/11
Peyton - 5/19

Games under 80 QBR
Eli - 3/11
Peyton - 7/19

Team Record
Eli - 8-3
Peyton - 9-10

Neat comparison. It appears Eli is a better postseason QB than Peyton.

vikingsrule · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject:

I dont really think there is much Eli can do to surpass Peyton's legacy. Eli has had very inconsistent production whereas Peyton has been phenomenal throughout his entire career. It just so happens that Eli played on some better teams that contributed to Eli having more SB wins.

I guess i cant define superbowl wins as defining of a legacy. Does anyone consider Terry Bradshaw's legacy superior to that of Peyton Manning's? Heck, does Trent Dilfer have a greater legacy than Dan Marino. Nope. Eli and Peyton arent equal in terms of elite production over an extended period of time.

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x0x · Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13981 Location: Ontario, Canada

The only knock on Bradshaw is he had a stellar defense and sound offense which leads people to say, like with the early 90s Cowboys, most QBs would thrive in that situation.

Bradshaw was a league MVP and was a two-time Super Bowl MVP.

You have to understand that in the mid 80s, Bradshaw was indeed in that upper level of QBs. But the 80s saw passing numbers increase and we got more legends than we knew what to do with.

For his time, Bradshaw was one of the best, even if his teams helped him a lot.

I don't think you can compare the 70s Steelers to the 2007 or 2011 Giants. So Eli Manning leading his teams to Championship is more comparable to...well actually nobody. No QB has taken two lower seed teams to Championships. A 10-6 and 9-7 team.....

So I don't know how you want to judge Eli but he certainly isn't comparable to Bradshaw or Aikman in terms of situation. So he's above them in legacy.

Will be interesting if he can win that 3rd Super Bowl.
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LivingLegendWFC · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:00 am Post subject:

Yes its possible.

Eli's legacy has grown so much in a short amount of time, its certainly possible for that to continue.

Peyton is the better regular season QB, he has more regular season awards, and he is probably the best regular season QB ever, and he does have a super bowl so its not going to be easy for Eli to leave a bigger legacy, but he has the post season success over Peyton and he has time to add to it.

If Eli gets another championship or two, an MVP or two, and another superbowl MVP I think you would have a great argument for him having a bigger legacy then Peyton. You play to win championships and that is a huge part of players "legacy's."
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Blackburn920 · Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Posts: 2

That 25 INT season was not a bad year at all. I think Eli has improved incrementally each season he has been in the league.

Eli is a guy who takes a lot of risks. His stats are not always gonna be pretty.

The Giants have not been a powerhouse either. Both years they won the SB over 1/2 of NFL analysts did not even think they would make the playoffs

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