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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys think Cancellara takes it tomorrow?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You guys think Cancellara takes it tomorrow?


Depends on how fit Tony Martin is and how much energy Wiggins is willing to expend.

There is a rest day straight after this TT so I would expect Wiggins to put the hammer down and win.

S4 of the Dauphine should be a good indicator of what to expect here and Wiggins beat Martin by 30+ seconds on that day.

Cancellara lost out to Kessiakoff in the tour of Switzerland longish TT and Monfort did pretty well;

Of the guys in the GC picture expect the likes of Wiggins to do very well, Evans/Nibali/Monfort/Froome/Van Den Broeck/Menchov will do well but lose close to if not more than a minute on Wiggins.

In the TT picture we are going to see the big three, Cancellara, Wiggins and Martin heading up the field unless Martin is suffering too much from his injuries. Michael Rogers should be up there too for Sky.

I would pick Wiggins>Cancellara>Martin on the day and Wiggins to really stretch out his overall lead.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin has set the early pace.

Really hope Wiggins can distance himself from Cadel Evans today. Evans is such a pest who you can never shake off.
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Cancellara just blitzed the first checkpoint.

And his second checkpoint looks even faster!
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WOAH Chris Froome! Where did that come from 24 second lead in the first sector!

And Bradley just topped that by 5 seconds!

If Bradley holds this he will have over a 1min gap to Evans.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!

Bradley Wiggins with the stage victory; 1:43 ahead of Cadel Evans and 0:35 ahead of 2nd placed Chris Froome.

Outrageous Time Trialing from Brad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing that was not expected. Look at what Wiggins put into Cadel at the Dauphine.

As you can see above I expected Wiggins to put a minute into all of his major rivals. Froome is the surprise to me today.
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Nothing that was not expected. Look at what Wiggins put into Cadel at the Dauphine.

As you can see above I expected Wiggins to put a minute into all of his major rivals. Froome is the surprise to me today.


A minute? He put nearly 2 minutes into Evans.
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khodder wrote:
Nothing that was not expected. Look at what Wiggins put into Cadel at the Dauphine.

As you can see above I expected Wiggins to put a minute into all of his major rivals. Froome is the surprise to me today.


A minute? He put nearly 2 minutes into Evans.


And he put 1:43 into Evans in a slightly longer TT at the Dauphine. I was being conservative with a minute and that is why I added the "if not more". It was impressive I mean anything these guys do on these bikes is impressive, but it is not surprising.

Maybe I should have been specific, but this is no surprise to me, Wiggins is just that good as a time-trialist.

Froome is the surprise I expected him to top 10, but not be second on the stage ahead of Fabien.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expected a strong performance.

But I was still shocked.

A minute up on Fabian too.
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I expected a strong performance.

But I was still shocked.

A minute up on Fabian too.


The performance compared to Fabien is surprising, but the longer TT's are not Fabiens best suit and the small climb in the middle of the TT would have hurt him too. Not the best course for him.
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If we assume Bradley pulls another 2 minute gap on the 19th stage, the second ITT, then Sky theoretically have a 4 minute advantage to protect over the next 9 stages.
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If we assume Bradley pulls another 2 minute gap on the 19th stage, the second ITT, then Sky theoretically have a 4 minute advantage to protect over the next 9 stages.


Yeah and even then Evans is not an explosive climber, nor is Nibali. I don't see anyway barring a crash/injury Wiggins does not win that, and even if that happens Froome would be next cab off the rank for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to put money on Froome winning the 2013 TdF.

He has shown plenty of stamina in the Alps these past two days, plus he was supreme in the ITT. Had he not sustained a puncture on Stage 1(?) he would be right behind Wiggins in the times.

Schleck and Contador will be back, so I fancy Froome to have good odds.
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texans_uk wrote:
I'm going to put money on Froome winning the 2013 TdF.

He has shown plenty of stamina in the Alps these past two days, plus he was supreme in the ITT. Had he not sustained a puncture on Stage 1(?) he would be right behind Wiggins in the times.

Schleck and Contador will be back, so I fancy Froome to have good odds.


Froome would not have been a bad bet this year. He was always going to be strong, and with a little less TT KM's (say 50 total instead of 100 total) I would back him as the better rider than Wiggins. If Froome was given license to go on stage 11 he would have put big time into Wiggins over that final 5 km when he dropped him, but he would have also dragged the likes of VDB and Nibali with him.

Froome is the only reason Wiggins is so far ahead right now. If Froome was not their to bring Wiggo back to the Nibali attacks then he would have been dropped pretty easily.
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