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JaguarCrazy2832 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: JC2832's Pre-Season Team by Team Analysis: Baltimore Ravens |
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Baltimore Ravens (12-4)
The Baltimore Ravens had a great regular season: Beat Pittsburgh twice and a got a 1st round bye. Joe Flacco proved a ton of haters wrong getting his team within a Lee Evans drop of a Super Bowl appearance. The arrow is still pointing up for the Ravens who always re-tool exceptionally with the draft and year after year.
Offense:
Going into the 2011 season, some people were questioning whether or not Joe Flacco is the real deal. After another good year, it seems like a lot of the people are silenced. With Anquan Boldin appearing to be on the decline, it is a very nice that Torrey Smith had himself a strong rookie year (Ozzie you crafty bastard). Pitta and Dickson both pumped out good years at TEs combining for almost 1000 yards and 8 TDs. The Ravens don’t exactly have a ton of talent in the receiving category at WR/TE, but they make up for it by having one of the best RBs in the game: Ray Rice. Rice finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing with 1364 yards and with 12 rushing TDs. Rice is also one of the best receiving options that Joe Cool has to throw to which allows the team to run Torrey Smith long. Rice should get a much better chance to get spelled some with the addition of 3rd round pick Bernard Pierce, a much better runner now than Ricky Williams. The offensive line may have some questions now that Ben Grubbs is gone. They still have Oher and Yanda for the youth part of the line. Matt Birk and Bobbie Williams add a little veteran moxie. Jah Reid may not be ready to contribute right now but 2nd round pick Kelechi Osemele and Gino Gradkowski were added to the line. Osemele, if motivated and in shape, can be a helluva mauler for the Ravens OL. When you think Baltimore Ravens, you think defense, but the offense is no slouch. Now that the Ravens are becoming more balanced, they are much more formidable team than they were just a short while ago.
Defense:
Some teams wish they had a defense like the Ravens for a handful of years, but Baltimore’s defense has been very good for the better part of a decade. Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed lead one of the most smashmouth defenses the NFL has. The defense was 3rd in points, 3rd in passing, 2nd in total yards, 6th in rushing, 3rd in sacks. Basically every stat but INTs is in the upper echelon of the entire league. One major concern about the Ravens defense now is whether or not Suggs will be able to play and more importantly, be effective, this year for a defense that needs his production. Baltimore drafted a rather polarized prospect in Courtney Upshaw. Some people don’t think he has a position, but Upshaw always has a nose for the ball and was around most big plays in the trenches in Alabama. With Suggs out for now there really isn’t much reason for Courtney to be the favorite to start the season. Haloti Ngata is still a force to be reckon with but he will get even more attention than the mammoth man will get now that Suggs is out. Kruger and McPhee added some good pressure as well. Terrence Cody is another mountain of a man to a DL that doesn’t lack size. Cody started all 16 games last year answering some questions about whether or not he could handle it at his weight. Now it’s all about whether he can tap into the potential that made him so intriguing. Former 2nd round pick Sergio Kindle is also an intriguing guy. Kindle did not record a single stat last year after fracturing his skull and his career appeared to be in jeopardy, but there still is a chance he can play and be successful. Kindle is one of those guys you root for after his misfortunes the past season. Ray Lewis, even at 17 seasons is still an incredible leader and a great player. Lewis and Reed have fought off a lot of the youth movement that came in to the defense and appeared to have stepped up their play in fact. Finally, the Ravens have themselves a pair of good young corners in Lardarius Webb and Jimmy Smith. With the added youth next to the big 4, this defense has retooled itself and is in prime shape to be a Top-3 defense once again if Suggs is fine.
Questions:
1. How will the defense play if Suggs misses significant time?
2. Does the offense have much more room to grow outside of Flacco?
3. Will the Ravens finally break through and get themselves to the Super Bowl? _________________
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TheVillain112 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I know you don't like to mention coordinators but outside of the Ravens O-Line, I think their biggest question marks are at each coordinator position... _________________
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spiritoftruth
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely.
The biggest question marks with the Ravens I would say are:
1. Can Joe Flacco properly read a defense?
2. Will O-Coordinator Cam Cameron allow adjustments to his offense when it shows no life?
3. Will D-Coordinator Dean Pees stay with the aggressive style, or turn the Ravens into a bend-and-break defense?
4. Can Courtney Upshaw and Paul Kruger man the OLB positions.
5. Can LT Bryant McKinnie add another adequate performance season under his belt? _________________
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MoJo122-b-21 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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The Ravens should have been in the Super Bowl and it's not Lee Evans' fault - the defender made a great play ripping his arm down once the ball was in his hand and kickers have no business missing chip-shots.
If the defense doesn't show more age, I think they are the favorites along with NE, Pitt and Houston to get another bye - I think they will have one of those byes. _________________
"We're not trying to win the AFC South, we're trying to own the AFC South."
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FourThreeMafia 
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 40017 Location: East of Sixburgh
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Solid breakdown.
Ravens will contend again and I actually think Upshaw will have 9-11 sacks as a rookie. He wont be the force that Suggs is, but I think Suggs should be back by the postseason, although Im not sure he will be at 100% even then.
I also question their coordinating positions as well. Caneron is alot like Bruce Arians insomuch as both are often too conservative and neither seem to learn from their mistakes. And Pees....well....he has more talent here on defense than he ever has, but he has never been impressive as DC IMO.
Still, the Ravens have enough talent that they will be in SB contention again, and considering the Steelers have issues of their own and the Bengals are all hype at this point, I think they may still be the favorites. IMO, its still a two horse race until Dalton shows more consistency and Cincy proves they can do more than beat up on bad teams. _________________
| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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onejayhawk 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is still the best defense for my money. Upshaw is an outstanding prospect and Kruger should give at least adequate pass rush.
My questions center on the offense. Is the OL good enough to power some pretty good RBs and still keep Flacco upright? Will the play calling ever improve? Is there a WR that could start for any other playoff team?
This is a talented team. I expect them to run away with their division and have a good shot at winning the Conference.
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DontTazeMeBro 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | Is there a WR that could start for any other playoff team? |
You wouldn't take Boldin and Smith over Deion Branch, Kevin Walter, Eric Decker, whoever the hell isn't named A.J. Green for Cincy, Nate Burleson, Michael Crabtree, or Devery Henderson/Lance Moore? _________________
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JaguarCrazy2832 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I try not to dig into coordinators because I dont know their schemes/plans well and they tend to change. Its easier to talk about the players _________________
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eaglesfan10 
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | I try not to dig into coordinators because I dont know their schemes/plans well and they tend to change. Its easier to talk about the players |
The offensive coordinator is a huge factor when discussing the Ravens though.
At least, more so than other teams. _________________
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MoJo122-b-21 
Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 5752 Location: Not London!
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| eaglesfan10 wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | I try not to dig into coordinators because I dont know their schemes/plans well and they tend to change. Its easier to talk about the players |
The offensive coordinator is a huge factor when discussing the Ravens though.
At least, more so than other teams. |
I think it's been really overblown.
The offensive line has regressed and there really hasn't been receivers who can stretch the field nor the time to do so consistently. I know Torrey Smith was very good getting up the field, but he was a rookie and wasn't a consistent enough threat to draw the defense back.
It's hard to open up the playbook when you don't have the players to execute the plays. _________________
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goldfishwars 
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Baltimore got the best value at any spot by taking Upshaw in the 2nd. That kid is a flat-out beast. _________________
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Flaccomania 
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| MoJo122-b-21 wrote: | I think it's been really overblown.
The offensive line has regressed and there really hasn't been receivers who can stretch the field nor the time to do so consistently. I know Torrey Smith was very good getting up the field, but he was a rookie and wasn't a consistent enough threat to draw the defense back.
It's hard to open up the playbook when you don't have the players to execute the plays. |
It's not overblown. Trust me.
But that's kind of the point. The OL wasn't often affording Flacco the protection he needed to go deep yet in games where they were struggling, Cam refuses to adapt and go with quicker routes. He goes into a game with a game plan and unless its going from game plan to 2 minute drill, he doesn't make adjustments.
And yes, Torrey was consistent enough to draw the defense back. He burned defenders on a weekly basis and I'm not exaggerating in the slightest. Now, whether Flacco hit him with the ball or not is a different story, but Torrey was getting open deep every single week multiple times. The issue was, you'd think tha with Torrey deep and taking a safety with him Cam would utilize Boldin underneath to take advantage -- but you'd be wrong. Cam can't do that while he's sending Boldin deep on the other side too which he refused to change.
It's not so much Cam's system, though it definitely is partly, but moreso that he refuses to adjust when things aren't working. He's too stubborn and egotistical to admit that his game plan isn't working and instead will continue to try to force a square peg into a round hole. _________________
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JTagg7754 
Joined: 09 Nov 2010 Posts: 7237 Location: Somewhere in Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:47 am Post subject: |
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This division..... oh this division. It's gonna be a fun one to watch as been the case for the past...... 6 years or so?
Love the AFC North. _________________
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not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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BassistofDoom
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Cam Cameron does not know how to use Joe Flacco or Anquan Boldin. They need more 3 WR sets where Flacco can air it out and use his arm strength. I have a question though: Is Jah Reid good? Because the Ravens drafted Kelechi Osemele in the 2nd (great pick) most likely to be an LG so does that mean Reid isn't good? _________________ GO G-MEN |
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sp6488 
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| BassistofDoom wrote: | | Cam Cameron does not know how to use Joe Flacco or Anquan Boldin. They need more 3 WR sets where Flacco can air it out and use his arm strength. I have a question though: Is Jah Reid good? Because the Ravens drafted Kelechi Osemele in the 2nd (great pick) most likely to be an LG so does that mean Reid isn't good? |
Reid is an OT. His projected start at LG was more out of necessity. When we were set at OT even Ogden played some guard when he was younger. _________________
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I won't be sorry when the Ravens finish 8-8. |
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